Evolution is a hoax

[twthmoses]

Scientifically speaking I already gave you scientific examples of evolution confirmed by scientists. https://www.wired.com/2008/12/evolutionexampl/

All of this accepted by virtually all scientists... Just saying...

That's a nice science fiction article, there. But it doesn't have even one proof that evolution exists in it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Think you are looking for examples of proof that is simple not available.  That’s does not mean you can’t deduct from proof that are there. Example can we agree on that humans average high have increased in say the last 100-200 years? If you take that premises as acceptable, even true, how are you going to prove that, 100 million years from now?

The chances that you are going to dig up 10 specimens of each gender, for every single year, for every region of the planet, many 1000 specimens in all, to make a good case, that is very hard to argue against, is statistical zero. Chances are you only have a few specimens of mixed gender, and mix completeness, cover those couple of 100 years. From that you deduct or rather make a theory.

In case of evolution, we far from have all the answers and far from all the proof to 100% support all branches of those theories. Working on it, but to say there is no proof, is your unsupported theory.

Think of it this way. In evolution we have 1 specimen from 3000 b.c, 2 from 400 b.c, a couple from 200 a.d and one from 1920. From that we have an evolution theory. Complete, narrr far from it. Work in progress. We are learning every day.

[BADecker]

Scientifically speaking I already gave you scientific examples of evolution confirmed by scientists. https://www.wired.com/2008/12/evolutionexampl/

All of this accepted by virtually all scientists... Just saying...

That's a nice science fiction article, there. But it doesn't have even one proof that evolution exists in it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Think you are looking for examples of proof that is simple not available.  That’s does not mean you can’t deduct from proof that are there. Example can we agree on that humans average high have increased in say the last 100-200 years? If you take that premises as acceptable, even true, how are you going to prove that, 100 million years from now?

The chances that you are going to dig up 10 specimens of each gender, for every single year, for every region of the planet, many 1000 specimens in all, to make a good case, that is very hard to argue against, is statistical zero. Chances are you only have a few specimens of mixed gender, and mix completeness, cover those couple of 100 years. From that you deduct or rather make a theory.

In case of evolution, we far from have all the answers and far from all the proof to 100% support all branches of those theories. Working on it, but to say there is no proof, is your unsupported theory.

Think of it this way. In evolution we have 1 specimen from 3000 b.c, 2 from 400 b.c, a couple from 200 a.d and one from 1920. From that we have an evolution theory. Complete, narrr far from it. Work in progress. We are learning every day.

Study entropy. The simplest way to describe entropy is the breaking down of complexity into simplicity. Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur. In fact, entropy suggests devolution.

The reason we don't have any factual example of evolution is not because of its nature. Rather, it's because there isn't any evolution. All the talk of evolution is simply talk. When you add the rest of science to the science of evolution, you can easily see that evolution is impossible.

You are being played. Evolution is a hoax.

[Doctor4You]

I hear some guys who majored in biology don't believe in evolution either. They argue the evolution theory is all wet and provide some undeniable evidence, which makes me agree with you

[Astargath]

Scientifically speaking I already gave you scientific examples of evolution confirmed by scientists. https://www.wired.com/2008/12/evolutionexampl/

All of this accepted by virtually all scientists... Just saying...

That's a nice science fiction article, there. But it doesn't have even one proof that evolution exists in it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Think you are looking for examples of proof that is simple not available.  That’s does not mean you can’t deduct from proof that are there. Example can we agree on that humans average high have increased in say the last 100-200 years? If you take that premises as acceptable, even true, how are you going to prove that, 100 million years from now?

The chances that you are going to dig up 10 specimens of each gender, for every single year, for every region of the planet, many 1000 specimens in all, to make a good case, that is very hard to argue against, is statistical zero. Chances are you only have a few specimens of mixed gender, and mix completeness, cover those couple of 100 years. From that you deduct or rather make a theory.

In case of evolution, we far from have all the answers and far from all the proof to 100% support all branches of those theories. Working on it, but to say there is no proof, is your unsupported theory.

Think of it this way. In evolution we have 1 specimen from 3000 b.c, 2 from 400 b.c, a couple from 200 a.d and one from 1920. From that we have an evolution theory. Complete, narrr far from it. Work in progress. We are learning every day.

Study entropy. The simplest way to describe entropy is the breaking down of complexity into simplicity. Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur. In fact, entropy suggests devolution.

The reason we don't have any factual example of evolution is not because of its nature. Rather, it's because there isn't any evolution. All the talk of evolution is simply talk. When you add the rest of science to the science of evolution, you can easily see that evolution is impossible.

You are being played. Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur.'' Badecker has alzheimer's or an IQ below 70, maybe both.

The theory of evolution does not contradict any known laws of physics. I have showed you this like 40 times before, of course your brain doesn't work normally. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/astronomy-links/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate

[BADecker]

Study entropy. The simplest way to describe entropy is the breaking down of complexity into simplicity. Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur. In fact, entropy suggests devolution.

The reason we don't have any factual example of evolution is not because of its nature. Rather, it's because there isn't any evolution. All the talk of evolution is simply talk. When you add the rest of science to the science of evolution, you can easily see that evolution is impossible.

You are being played. Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur.'' Badecker has alzheimer's or an IQ below 70, maybe both.

The theory of evolution does not contradict any known laws of physics. I have showed you this like 40 times before, of course your brain doesn't work normally. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/astronomy-links/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate

Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The fact that energy and matter remain without being lost, doesn't have anything to do with the form in which they exist. Entropy is simply the breaking down of the complexity of the form. It's all still there. It simply is less complex. There is nothing in nature that shows the opposite.

In addition, cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed. Programmed mutations that cause evolution are not the evolution of evolution theory. ETE mutations have to be random and un-programmed.

Now, I can understand your inability to explain what you say... because there isn't any explanation for what you say. And, it's the major reason for not having found even one factual piece of evolution theory evolution, although countless billions or trillions of pieces should be available to make life what it is in the world today. So, why keep on maintaining the evolution fable?

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

Study entropy. The simplest way to describe entropy is the breaking down of complexity into simplicity. Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur. In fact, entropy suggests devolution.

The reason we don't have any factual example of evolution is not because of its nature. Rather, it's because there isn't any evolution. All the talk of evolution is simply talk. When you add the rest of science to the science of evolution, you can easily see that evolution is impossible.

You are being played. Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur.'' Badecker has alzheimer's or an IQ below 70, maybe both.

The theory of evolution does not contradict any known laws of physics. I have showed you this like 40 times before, of course your brain doesn't work normally. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/astronomy-links/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate

Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The fact that energy and matter remain without being lost, doesn't have anything to do with the form in which they exist. Entropy is simply the breaking down of the complexity of the form. It's all still there. It simply is less complex. There is nothing in nature that shows the opposite.

In addition, cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed. Programmed mutations that cause evolution are not the evolution of evolution theory. ETE mutations have to be random and un-programmed.

Now, I can understand your inability to explain what you say... because there isn't any explanation for what you say. And, it's the major reason for not having found even one factual piece of evolution theory evolution, although countless billions or trillions of pieces should be available to make life what it is in the world today. So, why keep on maintaining the evolution fable?

Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics.'' ?

The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The Earth is not a thermally isolated system because it receives constant energy from the Sun. This is the energy fixed by plants using photosynthesis, which is then acquired by herbivores that eat the plants and carnivores that eat the herbivores. It is certainly true that without this constant addition of energy to the Earth’s system, life would be impossible, but fortunately for us, the radiation we receive is like the constant motivation for the youngster to keep his or her room tidy. The second law of thermodynamics simply cannot be used the way the anti-evolutionists try to use it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12052-009-0195-3

You are wrong.

''cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed.'' No it doesn't.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/forces-newtons-laws/newtons-laws-of-motion/a/what-is-newtons-third-law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton's_3rd_Law

Where does it say that everything is programmed?

Wrong again, as usual, I already showed you this dozens of times.

[BADecker]

Study entropy. The simplest way to describe entropy is the breaking down of complexity into simplicity. Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur. In fact, entropy suggests devolution.

The reason we don't have any factual example of evolution is not because of its nature. Rather, it's because there isn't any evolution. All the talk of evolution is simply talk. When you add the rest of science to the science of evolution, you can easily see that evolution is impossible.

You are being played. Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur.'' Badecker has alzheimer's or an IQ below 70, maybe both.

The theory of evolution does not contradict any known laws of physics. I have showed you this like 40 times before, of course your brain doesn't work normally. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/astronomy-links/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate

Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The fact that energy and matter remain without being lost, doesn't have anything to do with the form in which they exist. Entropy is simply the breaking down of the complexity of the form. It's all still there. It simply is less complex. There is nothing in nature that shows the opposite.

In addition, cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed. Programmed mutations that cause evolution are not the evolution of evolution theory. ETE mutations have to be random and un-programmed.

Now, I can understand your inability to explain what you say... because there isn't any explanation for what you say. And, it's the major reason for not having found even one factual piece of evolution theory evolution, although countless billions or trillions of pieces should be available to make life what it is in the world today. So, why keep on maintaining the evolution fable?

Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics.'' ?

The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The Earth is not a thermally isolated system because it receives constant energy from the Sun. This is the energy fixed by plants using photosynthesis, which is then acquired by herbivores that eat the plants and carnivores that eat the herbivores. It is certainly true that without this constant addition of energy to the Earth’s system, life would be impossible, but fortunately for us, the radiation we receive is like the constant motivation for the youngster to keep his or her room tidy. The second law of thermodynamics simply cannot be used the way the anti-evolutionists try to use it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12052-009-0195-3

You are wrong.

''cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed.'' No it doesn't.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/forces-newtons-laws/newtons-laws-of-motion/a/what-is-newtons-third-law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton's_3rd_Law

Where does it say that everything is programmed?

Wrong again, as usual, I already showed you this dozens of times.

All you manage to do is show that you are deceptive. Google "universal entropy." You will find that entropy is not a diminishing of matter/energy, but that it simply has to do with the way matter/energy exists. At best, we don't understand what could possibly stop entropy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

Regarding Newton's 3rd Law, from the site you posted, "To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts."

Did you catch the little word "always?" It works like this: "action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? The action... always. C&E in everything. It doesn't say only in big things. It doesn't say only in small things. It says always.

Whoever or Whatever started C&E was the programmer of the universe. Programming cancels random by definition, and shows us what random really is. Random is really our inability to know or understand the whole process. But in our case, we barely know any of the process. How do we know that we barely know any of the process? We attempt to believe in evolution, even when we are shown that it can't exist in any way that we can come up with, and also when we can't find even one factual example of it having occurred.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Gegege27]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Stammbaum_der_Hominidae.svg/1633px-Stammbaum_der_Hominidae.svg.png

But if they're not fully evolved?

[BADecker]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

But if they're not fully evolved?

A long time ago, in a galaxy billions of lightyears away, on a planet, around an obscure star...

Evolution there was much faster than it is here. It followed a totally different course than did ours. Those beings evolved much faster. Finally, one of the most highly developed creatures on that planet evolved all the way.

What is all-the-way? It evolved to a point that it could completely control the space/time continuum with its mind. Once it evolved to this stage, it realized that evolution was a problemsome occurrence that did no justice to species that were evolving. So, using its fully evolved mind, it set about to do something about this deplorable "state" of evolution events.

The first thing it did was to get rid of the great lengths of time.
Then it got rid of evolution altogether (although some of the dregs of the appearance of evolution still remain).
It even got rid of the big bang.
Then it created all life in place without evolution, and made the start to be 6,000 years ago.
The Bible shows the story of this happening.

Some people who know about all this, say. "But it all started with evolution." But they forget the part about evolution being gone altogether. No evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

I mean, this story is at least as credible as the story of evolution... evolution, which we can find no scientifically provable facts of.

[black_emo]

3368 posts are long enough to fight for the truths of the past that might not be very useful in the future.

[Renegadegate]

It's a huge topic where there hasn't been any hypothesis good enough to stop fighting about it
So, let's keep on trying. I for one, do not believe in evolution just because I haven't seen any trustworthy evidence to support any theory.

[Astargath]

Study entropy. The simplest way to describe entropy is the breaking down of complexity into simplicity. Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur. In fact, entropy suggests devolution.

The reason we don't have any factual example of evolution is not because of its nature. Rather, it's because there isn't any evolution. All the talk of evolution is simply talk. When you add the rest of science to the science of evolution, you can easily see that evolution is impossible.

You are being played. Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't allow evolution over the long term to occur.'' Badecker has alzheimer's or an IQ below 70, maybe both.

The theory of evolution does not contradict any known laws of physics. I have showed you this like 40 times before, of course your brain doesn't work normally. http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/astronomy-links/136-physics/general-physics/thermodynamics/816-does-evolution-contradict-the-second-law-of-thermodynamics-intermediate

Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The fact that energy and matter remain without being lost, doesn't have anything to do with the form in which they exist. Entropy is simply the breaking down of the complexity of the form. It's all still there. It simply is less complex. There is nothing in nature that shows the opposite.

In addition, cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed. Programmed mutations that cause evolution are not the evolution of evolution theory. ETE mutations have to be random and un-programmed.

Now, I can understand your inability to explain what you say... because there isn't any explanation for what you say. And, it's the major reason for not having found even one factual piece of evolution theory evolution, although countless billions or trillions of pieces should be available to make life what it is in the world today. So, why keep on maintaining the evolution fable?

Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy doesn't contradict the Second Law of Thermodynamics.'' ?

The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The Earth is not a thermally isolated system because it receives constant energy from the Sun. This is the energy fixed by plants using photosynthesis, which is then acquired by herbivores that eat the plants and carnivores that eat the herbivores. It is certainly true that without this constant addition of energy to the Earth’s system, life would be impossible, but fortunately for us, the radiation we receive is like the constant motivation for the youngster to keep his or her room tidy. The second law of thermodynamics simply cannot be used the way the anti-evolutionists try to use it.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12052-009-0195-3

You are wrong.

''cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, shows that everything is programmed.'' No it doesn't.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/forces-newtons-laws/newtons-laws-of-motion/a/what-is-newtons-third-law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton's_3rd_Law

Where does it say that everything is programmed?

Wrong again, as usual, I already showed you this dozens of times.

All you manage to do is show that you are deceptive. Google "universal entropy." You will find that entropy is not a diminishing of matter/energy, but that it simply has to do with the way matter/energy exists. At best, we don't understand what could possibly stop entropy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

Regarding Newton's 3rd Law, from the site you posted, "To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts."

Did you catch the little word "always?" It works like this: "action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? The action... always. C&E in everything. It doesn't say only in big things. It doesn't say only in small things. It says always.

Whoever or Whatever started C&E was the programmer of the universe. Programming cancels random by definition, and shows us what random really is. Random is really our inability to know or understand the whole process. But in our case, we barely know any of the process. How do we know that we barely know any of the process? We attempt to believe in evolution, even when we are shown that it can't exist in any way that we can come up with, and also when we can't find even one factual example of it having occurred.

Evolution is a hoax.

"action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? rofl smart ass, what causes the action?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

And this shows evolution is impossible how?

[BADecker]

"action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? rofl smart ass, what causes the action?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

And this shows evolution is impossible how?

Didn't you ever play pool? Or at least watch some good pool players play the game? Or haven't you looked at the posts you post to see that they are reactions of other posts? Or go to the top of the current main page of Politics & Society right in this forum. Look at Flying Hellfish's post, Request For Help From P&S Regulars where he says:

So in that vein I kindly asked that you trim down the long trails because it is really distracting to readers and IMO completely unnecessary in the vast majority of cases.

What are those "trails" Flying Hellfish is talking about? Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?

Evolution is a form of simplicity to complexity, via actions-and-reactions/C&E. Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen. The fact that we can't find even one proof of evolution proves that entropy is correct, even without C&E.

Thank you for adding strength to the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

"action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? rofl smart ass, what causes the action?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

And this shows evolution is impossible how?

Didn't you ever play pool? Or at least watch some good pool players play the game? Or haven't you looked at the posts you post to see that they are reactions of other posts? Or go to the top of the current main page of Politics & Society right in this forum. Look at Flying Hellfish's post, Request For Help From P&S Regulars where he says:

So in that vein I kindly asked that you trim down the long trails because it is really distracting to readers and IMO completely unnecessary in the vast majority of cases.

What are those "trails" Flying Hellfish is talking about? Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?

Evolution is a form of simplicity to complexity, via actions-and-reactions/C&E. Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen. The fact that we can't find even one proof of evolution proves that entropy is correct, even without C&E.

Thank you for adding strength to the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen'' No it doesn't.
https://www.skeptical-science.com/science/claim-law-thermodynamics-disproves-evolution-nope/
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/4l3b55/my_dad_uses_entropy_to_disprove_evolution/

''Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?'' I don't care what they are, the law simply says that every action has a reaction, it does not talk about what causes an ''action'' which is what you are arguing about, saying everything is ''programmed'' which is in no way ever stated in any of our scientific laws.

[BADecker]

"action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? rofl smart ass, what causes the action?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

And this shows evolution is impossible how?

Didn't you ever play pool? Or at least watch some good pool players play the game? Or haven't you looked at the posts you post to see that they are reactions of other posts? Or go to the top of the current main page of Politics & Society right in this forum. Look at Flying Hellfish's post, Request For Help From P&S Regulars where he says:

So in that vein I kindly asked that you trim down the long trails because it is really distracting to readers and IMO completely unnecessary in the vast majority of cases.

What are those "trails" Flying Hellfish is talking about? Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?

Evolution is a form of simplicity to complexity, via actions-and-reactions/C&E. Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen. The fact that we can't find even one proof of evolution proves that entropy is correct, even without C&E.

Thank you for adding strength to the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen'' No it doesn't.
https://www.skeptical-science.com/science/claim-law-thermodynamics-disproves-evolution-nope/
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/4l3b55/my_dad_uses_entropy_to_disprove_evolution/

''Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?'' I don't care what they are, the law simply says that every action has a reaction, it does not talk about what causes an ''action'' which is what you are arguing about, saying everything is ''programmed'' which is in no way ever stated in any of our scientific laws.

The flaw in your links regarding evolution is, the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place. This means constant upheaval. Evolution theory evolution has no way of getting around this upheaval. The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy. It's all guesswork regarding ETE.

So, what else could there be? The Bible creation story makes way more sense than evolution. If the same scientific effort had gone into creation-proving as has gone into searching for evolution, creation would have been proven long ago, scientifically.

As far as reactions go, are they actions or not? Did that little "re" throw you for a loop? Look at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reaction?s=t for the definition of reaction, and note how many times it says that a reaction is an action.

I can understand why you are having a difficult time realizing that evolution is a hoax. You are looking at picky little things that don't have any worthwhile substance. You would strain a gnat out of your soup, but you would swallow a camel.

[Astargath]

"action" > "always" > "reaction." What causes the reaction? rofl smart ass, what causes the action?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder)

And this shows evolution is impossible how?

Didn't you ever play pool? Or at least watch some good pool players play the game? Or haven't you looked at the posts you post to see that they are reactions of other posts? Or go to the top of the current main page of Politics & Society right in this forum. Look at Flying Hellfish's post, Request For Help From P&S Regulars where he says:

So in that vein I kindly asked that you trim down the long trails because it is really distracting to readers and IMO completely unnecessary in the vast majority of cases.

What are those "trails" Flying Hellfish is talking about? Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?

Evolution is a form of simplicity to complexity, via actions-and-reactions/C&E. Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen. The fact that we can't find even one proof of evolution proves that entropy is correct, even without C&E.

Thank you for adding strength to the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.

''Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen'' No it doesn't.
https://www.skeptical-science.com/science/claim-law-thermodynamics-disproves-evolution-nope/
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/4l3b55/my_dad_uses_entropy_to_disprove_evolution/

''Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?'' I don't care what they are, the law simply says that every action has a reaction, it does not talk about what causes an ''action'' which is what you are arguing about, saying everything is ''programmed'' which is in no way ever stated in any of our scientific laws.

The flaw in your links regarding evolution is, the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place. This means constant upheaval. Evolution theory evolution has no way of getting around this upheaval. The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy. It's all guesswork regarding ETE.

So, what else could there be? The Bible creation story makes way more sense than evolution. If the same scientific effort had gone into creation-proving as has gone into searching for evolution, creation would have been proven long ago, scientifically.

As far as reactions go, are they actions or not? Did that little "re" throw you for a loop? Look at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reaction?s=t for the definition of reaction, and note how many times it says that a reaction is an action.

I can understand why you are having a difficult time realizing that evolution is a hoax. You are looking at picky little things that don't have any worthwhile substance. You would strain a gnat out of your soup, but you would swallow a camel.

''the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place'' What are you on about, are you trolling me or?
''The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy.'' ?? The earth is not a closed system, indeed, that's why evolution does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics which clearly you don't understand at all, or just trolling. The 2nd law states ''In any closed system, the entropy of the system will either remain constant or increase.'' Earth is not a closed system, it's an isolated system. We gain radiated heat energy from the sun. This seems fairly easy to understand but religion has destroyed your brain.

Again, no scientific law says anything about things being programmed or that true randomness doesn't exist, you are just a nutjob. Show me the scientific law that says that.

[BADecker]

''the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place'' What are you on about, are you trolling me or?
''The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy.'' ?? The earth is not a closed system, indeed, that's why evolution does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics which clearly you don't understand at all, or just trolling. The 2nd law states ''In any closed system, the entropy of the system will either remain constant or increase.'' Earth is not a closed system, it's an isolated system. We gain radiated heat energy from the sun. This seems fairly easy to understand but religion has destroyed your brain.

Again, no scientific law says anything about things being programmed or that true randomness doesn't exist, you are just a nutjob. Show me the scientific law that says that.

So, now you are trying to suggest that a pendulum won't ever stop swing on earth. Pendulum retardation. Simple entropy at its finest!

The obviousness of the programming is something that any simple scientist understands. Just because the term programming wasn't in common scientific use back when simple cause and effect was scientifically explained, doesn't make C&E to not be programming.

C&E programming along with entropy easily show the impossibility of evolution, at least as evolution is expressed by evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are trying to expand the evolution hoax.

[Astargath]

''the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place'' What are you on about, are you trolling me or?
''The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy.'' ?? The earth is not a closed system, indeed, that's why evolution does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics which clearly you don't understand at all, or just trolling. The 2nd law states ''In any closed system, the entropy of the system will either remain constant or increase.'' Earth is not a closed system, it's an isolated system. We gain radiated heat energy from the sun. This seems fairly easy to understand but religion has destroyed your brain.

Again, no scientific law says anything about things being programmed or that true randomness doesn't exist, you are just a nutjob. Show me the scientific law that says that.

So, now you are trying to suggest that a pendulum won't ever stop swing on earth. Pendulum retardation. Simple entropy at its finest!

The obviousness of the programming is something that any simple scientist understands. Just because the term programming wasn't in common scientific use back when simple cause and effect was scientifically explained, doesn't make C&E to not be programming.

C&E programming along with entropy easily show the impossibility of evolution, at least as evolution is expressed by evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are trying to expand the evolution hoax.

Show me the scientific paper/article that says everything is programmed.

Life causes entropy of the earth to decrease. This is offset by increased entropy of the sun, which is the primary source of energy for the earth. Overall, the entropy of the universe increases.

"Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics."

This shows more a misconception about thermodynamics than about evolution. The second law of thermodynamics says, "No process is possible in which the sole result is the transfer of energy from a cooler to a hotter body." [Atkins, 1984, The Second Law, pg. 25] Now you may be scratching your head wondering what this has to do with evolution. The confusion arises when the 2nd law is phrased in another equivalent way, "The entropy of a closed system cannot decrease." Entropy is an indication of unusable energy and often (but not always!) corresponds to intuitive notions of disorder or randomness. Creationists thus misinterpret the 2nd law to say that things invariably progress from order to disorder.

However, they neglect the fact that life is not a closed system. The sun provides more than enough energy to drive things. If a mature tomato plant can have more usable energy than the seed it grew from, why should anyone expect that the next generation of tomatoes can't have more usable energy still? Creationists sometimes try to get around this by claiming that the information carried by living things lets them create order. However, not only is life irrelevant to the 2nd law, but order from disorder is common in nonliving systems, too. Snowflakes, sand dunes, tornadoes, stalactites, graded river beds, and lightning are just a few examples of order coming from disorder in nature; none require an intelligent program to achieve that order. In any nontrivial system with lots of energy flowing through it, you are almost certain to find order arising somewhere in the system. If order from disorder is supposed to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, why is it ubiquitous in nature?

The thermodynamics argument against evolution displays a misconception about evolution as well as about thermodynamics, since a clear understanding of how evolution works should reveal major flaws in the argument. Evolution says that organisms reproduce with only small changes between generations (after their own kind, so to speak). For example, animals might have appendages which are longer or shorter, thicker or flatter, lighter or darker than their parents. Occasionally, a change might be on the order of having four or six fingers instead of five. Once the differences appear, the theory of evolution calls for differential reproductive success. For example, maybe the animals with longer appendages survive to have more offspring than short-appendaged ones. All of these processes can be observed today. They obviously don't violate any physical laws''

http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

[BADecker]

''the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place'' What are you on about, are you trolling me or?
''The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy.'' ?? The earth is not a closed system, indeed, that's why evolution does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics which clearly you don't understand at all, or just trolling. The 2nd law states ''In any closed system, the entropy of the system will either remain constant or increase.'' Earth is not a closed system, it's an isolated system. We gain radiated heat energy from the sun. This seems fairly easy to understand but religion has destroyed your brain.

Again, no scientific law says anything about things being programmed or that true randomness doesn't exist, you are just a nutjob. Show me the scientific law that says that.

So, now you are trying to suggest that a pendulum won't ever stop swing on earth. Pendulum retardation. Simple entropy at its finest!

The obviousness of the programming is something that any simple scientist understands. Just because the term programming wasn't in common scientific use back when simple cause and effect was scientifically explained, doesn't make C&E to not be programming.

C&E programming along with entropy easily show the impossibility of evolution, at least as evolution is expressed by evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are trying to expand the evolution hoax.

Show me the scientific paper/article that says everything is programmed.

Life causes entropy of the earth to decrease. This is offset by increased entropy of the sun, which is the primary source of energy for the earth. Overall, the entropy of the universe increases.

"Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics."

Find the white paper yourself if it exists. Cause and effect in everything is programming. Why? Because if the beginning of everything was slightly different, everything would be different now, via the chain of causes and effects. All things exist exactly as they do because they were set up to exist as they do through the flow of C&E. That is programming.

Entropy causes life on earth to be less complex.

Evolution can't violate the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, because evolution doesn't exist. The fact that some people attempt to force themselves to believe in non-existent evolution, is and/or produces entropy in the lives of those people... and maybe in all of life, through the self-contradicting lie of the evolution idea. Or do you have some scientific proof for evolution all of a sudden?

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

''the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place'' What are you on about, are you trolling me or?
''The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy.'' ?? The earth is not a closed system, indeed, that's why evolution does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics which clearly you don't understand at all, or just trolling. The 2nd law states ''In any closed system, the entropy of the system will either remain constant or increase.'' Earth is not a closed system, it's an isolated system. We gain radiated heat energy from the sun. This seems fairly easy to understand but religion has destroyed your brain.

Again, no scientific law says anything about things being programmed or that true randomness doesn't exist, you are just a nutjob. Show me the scientific law that says that.

So, now you are trying to suggest that a pendulum won't ever stop swing on earth. Pendulum retardation. Simple entropy at its finest!

The obviousness of the programming is something that any simple scientist understands. Just because the term programming wasn't in common scientific use back when simple cause and effect was scientifically explained, doesn't make C&E to not be programming.

C&E programming along with entropy easily show the impossibility of evolution, at least as evolution is expressed by evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are trying to expand the evolution hoax.

Show me the scientific paper/article that says everything is programmed.

Life causes entropy of the earth to decrease. This is offset by increased entropy of the sun, which is the primary source of energy for the earth. Overall, the entropy of the universe increases.

"Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics."

Find the white paper yourself if it exists. Cause and effect in everything is programming. Why? Because if the beginning of everything was slightly different, everything would be different now, via the chain of causes and effects. All things exist exactly as they do because they were set up to exist as they do through the flow of C&E. That is programming.

Entropy causes life on earth to be less complex.

Evolution can't violate the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, because evolution doesn't exist. The fact that some people attempt to force themselves to believe in non-existent evolution, is and/or produces entropy in the lives of those people... and maybe in all of life, through the self-contradicting lie of the evolution idea. Or do you have some scientific proof for evolution all of a sudden?

Evolution is a hoax.

Show me the scientific paper exposing how evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. ''Entropy causes life on earth to be less complex.'' how are you defining complex? Is a baby less complex than an adult?

Cause and effect is a philosophical matter, not scientific. If you think everything has a cause then you know we have no free will which contradicts your beliefs.