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June 11, 2019, 11:18:20 AM
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I received a chip that was created 12 hours ago, but it's still an unconfirmed chip creation.
Why do you hand out unconfirmed bitcoins after the mixing?
How can I now be sure that this btc will ever confirm?
It was probably because of this:


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The mempool just spiked. ChipMixer used a fee which was enough for the time he sent, but it quickly grow up, so others got priorized.


If you are in a hurry, you can just spend the coins right away (even if still unconfirmed) by import them in Electrum, then using a high fee to CPFP your transaction. (basically, miners will want to confirm your transaction because of the high fee, but they will need to confirm the one from ChipMixer first, so both will go through at the same time)

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June 11, 2019, 12:04:07 PM
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I have a simular issue.
I had user chipmixer before without any issues.

But this time after sending the coins to chipmixer, i choose to withdraw and use the electrium method like before. Inhot 4 private keys. Loaded them into a new wallet at electrium.. 3 small chunks confirmed immediately but the bigger (for me) amount was unconfirmed for the last 5 hours now. I checked the tx on electrium and it says 1.1sat/b tx fee which is waaaayyy  tooo low... I am not sure this will ever get any confirmations. What if no confirmations? Will my coins go back to the same private key and can i be able to reuse them... ? I am a little concerned actually. How will i at leaat recover my stucked coins if my session ends with chipmixer?



I received a chip that was created 12 hours ago, but it's still an unconfirmed chip creation.
Why do you hand out unconfirmed bitcoins after the mixing?
How can I now be sure that this btc will ever confirm?
It was probably because of this:

https://i.imgur.com/s3bq5LA.png
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The mempool just spiked. ChipMixer used a fee which was enough for the time he sent, but it quickly grow up, so others got priorized.


If you are in a hurry, you can just spend the coins right away (even if still unconfirmed) by import them in Electrum, then using a high fee to CPFP your transaction. (basically, miners will want to confirm your transaction because of the high fee, but they will need to confirm the one from ChipMixer first, so both will go through at the same time)
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June 11, 2019, 12:22:59 PM
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I am not sure this will ever get any confirmations.
It will. But it is probably going to take some time until the mempool clears out. You can also just do what I said and CPFP the transaction to get it confirmed quickly (even in the next block if you want).

What if no confirmations? Will my coins go back to the same private key and can i be able to reuse them... ?
If it doesn't get any confirmation (it will), you can just keep rebroadcasting the transaction until it gets, even if it take days/months/years (assuming it would take that long).

I am a little concerned actually. How will i at leaat recover my stucked coins if my session ends with chipmixer?
You already have the private-keys. So even if your session ends, you still will have control over the address with the pre-loaded coins (the "chip").

P.S: Remember that you can keep extending the session until everythings sorts out.

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June 17, 2019, 07:42:03 PM
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@ChipMixer answer your emails

Coin never arrived at address to sweep to...

Cant recover my session even though its only been two days...

No replies to emails sent...

wtf

Not happy with chipmixer, doubt ill be using again or recommending anyone else use
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June 17, 2019, 07:59:17 PM
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I'd give them 48 hours to reply...

Hopefully it's not too much you're without. I don't know if they normally give addresses thst haven't confirmed or if it's a new thing (instead of just handing out vouchers)., I don't think there's much we can help with until you get a reply from their support anyway.

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June 18, 2019, 06:50:45 PM
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Coin never arrived at address to sweep to...
if your preloaded address has unconfirmed coin (as experienced by Kerim77), then just wait
if it is empty, make sure you save and provide the signed receipt as a proof when emailing chipmixer

Cant recover my session even though its only been two days...
are you sure on the legit chipmixer.com site and not on fake .site or .info site?
did you type (or paste) the session token correctly?
what the exact error message you get when you try to restore your session?
btw, if you have ever destroyed the session before, you won't be able to restore it

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June 18, 2019, 08:43:42 PM
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So this is crap.  ChipMixer lost my funds... they sent 2 transactions to an address that was only supposed to receive 1.  Yes its the real ChipMixer

I did not tell them to do this and its not clear yet if ill be able to recover my missing funds...

But what's worse is their support are trying to say that I told them to send it to that address.  I absolutely did not, I specifically said; ""I sent x btc  and I have no idea what you did with x of it or what Im supposed to do with the rest given that the first withdrawal never showed up at the address. Do you need a different address to send my funds to?"

WTF ChipMixer
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June 19, 2019, 10:48:38 PM
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Is it possible that you accidentally "clicked twice" to create two transactions and/or you copy-pasted the wrong address (possibly clipboard jacking?)? Huh

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June 20, 2019, 04:22:37 PM
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I would argue that, the fact that we get chips that are no older than 1 week, limits the success of the mix.
I have also noticed that it can sometimes take up to one week until a deposit has turned into chips.
So if the creation of chips would be sooner after a deposit/donation, wouldn't this increase the age of chips?
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June 20, 2019, 05:41:49 PM
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It's suggested you wait to redeem a chip after at least 48 hours. It's also a good idea to use different chip sizes and send finds through other services...

I normally mix stuff and then buy hashing power with it to add a delay...

So getting your chips a few days after you deposit is in reading your privacy though its probably not so preferable...

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June 20, 2019, 06:15:26 PM
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Is it possible that you accidentally "clicked twice" to create two transactions and/or you copy-pasted the wrong address (possibly clipboard jacking?)? Huh


Nope. I had two chip amounts.  Sent one to my address and waited for it to show up, when it didnt after a couple hours I messaged them saying the coin I sent didnt arrive and that now im unsure how to proceed and do they need a different address.

After receiving this the frigging geniuses at chipmixer decided to just send the rest of it to the same address!

Then by email they actually tried to claim that I told them to do that!

I pointed out this is clearly false and theyre not even responding at this point.  DO NOT USE CHIPMIXER



It's suggested you wait to redeem a chip after at least 48 hours. It's also a good idea to use different chip sizes and send finds through other services...

Is that even mentioned on the site?
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June 20, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
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This is a weird story...

You need to explain what happend, since Chipmixer doesn't send any transactions... They either give you your chips, or a voucher.

So, what happend..; you send your funds to the deposit adress, and then you
1. received an incorrect amount of chips?
2. received an incorrect amount of voucher balance?

In which you proceeded to email Chipmixer's support, and which they acted upon by sending the remainder of your "missing" funds to the same adress?
I've never heard about chipmixer sending any funds ever, but perhaps there's a first time for everything.

Nope. I had two chip amounts.  Sent one to my address and waited for it to show up, when it didnt after a couple hours I messaged them saying the coin I sent didnt arrive and that now im unsure how to proceed and do they need a different address.
The chip you received had unconfirmed funds on it when you received it, and then got dropped from the mempool, is that right, or? (I don't think it is, but i don't see any other way in which the conclusion would be you losing your funds due to a mistake from Chipmixer's side of things.)

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June 20, 2019, 06:44:55 PM
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It's suggested you wait to redeem a chip after at least 48 hours. It's also a good idea to use different chip sizes and send finds through other services...

Is that even mentioned on the site?

I think it's mentioned somewhere during the mixing progress? Either way that's just general advice for enhancing your privacy when using any sort of mixing service (ie. waiting a week before moving coins will make blockchain analysis harder than waiting an hour) and should usually have no effect on your experience with ChipMixer (which will greatly improve your privacy regardless of how long you let coins lie).

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June 20, 2019, 11:55:08 PM
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So this is crap.  ChipMixer lost my funds... they sent 2 transactions to an address that was only supposed to receive 1.  Yes its the real ChipMixer

I did not tell them to do this and its not clear yet if ill be able to recover my missing funds...
is the address work as a one time payment/deposit address?
you should contact the owner of the address to rectify this, ask for proper credit or refund excess amount
without chipmixer support help, you could've used the private keys and (re)sent your own transaction

This is a weird story...

You need to explain what happend, since Chipmixer doesn't send any transactions... They either give you your chips, or a voucher.

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I've never heard about chipmixer sending any funds ever, but perhaps there's a first time for everything.
indeed weird  Undecided afaik chipmixer never manually create/send transaction for its users
the last time I had problem with chipmixer, I was given a voucher with the same amount of my "missing" funds

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June 21, 2019, 11:01:46 PM
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To clarify simudrone situation

simudrone deposits A+B mBTC -  receives A mBTC chip and B mBTC chip
he withdraws both chips - receives both private keys (funded) but sweeps one of them (B)
he sends angry email to return his BTC to his address - provides address C

support check his session
- sweeping transaction is already confirmed
- one chip (A) is not sweeped
support sweeps chip A to address C
support writes email explaining what happened, why chip A was not sweeped and that chip A was manually sweeped to customers address C

simudrone claims he never wanted it and that address C is not his

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June 23, 2019, 12:16:44 PM
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simudrone claims he never wanted it and that address C is not his
 Sent one to my address and waited for it to show up, when it didnt after a couple hours I messaged them saying the coin I sent didnt arrive and that now im unsure how to proceed and do they need a different address.
Looks like simudrone's PC is probably infected, potentially a clipboard hijacking?

@Simudrone, you should virus scan your pc.

support sweeps chip A to address C
support writes email explaining what happened, why chip A was not sweeped and that chip A was manually sweeped to customers address C

simudrone claims he never wanted it and that address C is not his

Looks like a miscommunication to me. Simudrone lost Chip B instead of A, and chipmixer thought he lost/forgot about A instead of B.
Now both are probably fallen into the hands of a clipboard hijacker kiddo.

Note though; i don't think chipmixer could've handled things much differently. It's not their fault you have an infected device.

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July 03, 2019, 09:09:22 AM
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Hello


its a very interesting Mixing Provider.

However i guess your using the customer deposits to create new chips.


If so then here some questions:


- do you try to obfuscate those deposits first in order to create chips with them afterwards?
- for ex Alica deposits 1 bitcoin on 04.02.2019 and gets private keys from 14.01.2019, everything is well so far. but what if alice deposits later on on 23.04.2019 and gets 1 btc chip from 04.02.19 ( maybe her own coins )?


more important is in case you use deposits to create new Chips, what is the difference between you and a Coinjoin provider?

Do you just merge them or you try to mix them and obfuscate before offering those " mixed " chips
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July 03, 2019, 01:33:25 PM
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Afaik, Alice's chip would be split into other chips (if she deposits 1.024 for example) then she migh have that deposit split into 1mbtc chips and then those chips merged or something similar. Those strategies work, I've watched a lot of videos from universities who explain it as a splitting technique. ChipMixer might do something else too but just splitting the chips removes the obviousness...

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July 04, 2019, 07:08:23 AM
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I made a transaction today and it's pretty unusual to me since I usually withdraw all my chips but today I receive vouchers.

I tried to redeem my vouchers 3 times already it all ended up me creating new vouchers, so far, I have 3 vouchers created already and I have save it all.

I need some advise, when can I use or redeem my voucher again? Do I have to use the last one generated?



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July 04, 2019, 08:15:13 AM
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I made a transaction today and it's pretty unusual to me since I usually withdraw all my chips but today I receive vouchers.

I tried to redeem my vouchers 3 times already it all ended up me creating new vouchers, so far, I have 3 vouchers created already and I have save it all.

I need some advise, when can I use or redeem my voucher again? Do I have to use the last one generated?


hello



it means, that they are out of chips.  as soon as they refilled fresh chips you can redeem using your voucher ( the lastest one ) in order to get chips out of it.

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