[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[Rahar02]

onion site not working all day   but clearnet link url=https://chip*ixer.co/]https://chipmixer.com/[/url works sometimes. Your site under a DDoS attack?

wait for another 100 years before try to fool people here, LoL
He tried to replace .com to 》》 .co

[moejoejay]

I remember seeing something like this before. Is this because Electrum trims the last empty line (at the end of the message)?

I think it has sth. to do with the circumstance that the different world from OS'es and programming languages are not following the same standards as it should be.


Like Windows isnt case sensitive but Unix is,  for example.


@Chipmixer:

May u think about it to avoid line feed or carriage return through an simple symbol like an asterisk (*) in ur receipt then ur on the safe side for all systems.


best regards

[jackg]

I remember seeing something like this before. Is this because Electrum trims the last empty line (at the end of the message)?

I think it has sth. to do with the circumstance that the different world from OS'es and programming languages are not following the same standards as it should be.


Like Windows isnt case sensitive but Unix is,  for example.


@Chipmixer:

May u think about it to avoid line feed or carriage return through an simple symbol like an asterisk (*) in ur receipt then ur on the safe side for all systems.


best regards

Windows has CR+LR, Linux just has LR so the cr shows up as ^Z, open a bug report with electrum if you think they didn't just not copy the final return (it's better that way).


@Rahar02 can you delete that link just in case a search engine crawler picks it up and boosts it in the page rank.

[notblox1]

Is there any way coinmixer will support Ethereum in near future,
or maybe you know some alternative website that offers ETH coin mixing?

[moejoejay]

Windows has CR+LR, Linux just has LR so the cr shows up as ^Z, open a bug report with electrum if you think they didn't just not copy the final return (it's better that way).

this is only the Electrum Interface what about the others Verify Services in the web

but i agree with u thats not chipmixers fault

despite these may they can improve this with an minor change  

best regards

[LoyceV]

what about the others Verify Services in the web

You're compromising your privacy if you use those to verify a signed message.

[moejoejay]

You're compromising your privacy if you use those to verify a signed message.

i wont go so far

u can also use some as an offline version

ps: the most service which offers an receipt trim these automatically

best regards

[moejoejay]

From the ChipmixerFAQ:

If you sweep funds from chip in first 12h after your input, you receive same privacy as you would get from standard mixer. If you trust us (as you already did when you sent coins into mixer) and spend chip when you need it, then you achive maximum privacy you can get.

instead of leave the private key untouched ( not sweeping) to use the Voucher Code before an wait for several days to redeem or are these two things diferrent and not comparable related to increase the grade of privacy.

best regards   

[LoyceV]

instead of leave the private key untouched ( not sweeping) to use the Voucher Code before an wait for several days to redeem or are these two things diferrent and not comparable related to increase the grade of privacy.

It's different, but I think the very existence of both options increases your privacy. I'll give an example:
Sweep
1a. You deposit now, and get a private key that was created a day ago.
You wait a week, and sweep the private key. That means any external party can see the funds were moved after 8 days.

1b. You deposit now, and get a private key that was created a week ago.
You wait a day, and sweep the private key. That means any external party can see the funds were moved after 8 days.

To the curious outsider, 1a and 1b look exactly the same! If he wants to find your deposit, it could just as well have been a day ago as it could have been a week ago. Or much longer, as you could have stored a voucher for months!

Voucher
2. You deposit now, and get a voucher. When you redeem the voucher, you continue at for example 1a or 1b, and once you sweep the private key, anyone can only see how long ago the address was funded. They can't know if you deposited days, weeks or months earlier, which makes it very difficult to link your deposit to your withdrawal.

[moejoejay]

Is there any way coinmixer will support Ethereum in near future,
or maybe you know some alternative website that offers ETH coin mixing?

There some approaches like this:

https://bitcoinmix.org/de/eth

https://tornado.cash/


But im not sure if its battle tested for the masses.

so be careful

Adittional: Some Technical Paper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/341.pdf


best regards

[moejoejay]

@LoyceV:

So the voucher step is the game changer to increase the privacy in an significant way in this case  ?


best regards

[LoyceV]

So the voucher step is the game changer to increase the privacy in an significant way in this case  ?

It's part of the total package. You could also do this:
1. Deposit amount A now, and get a voucher
2. Deposit amount B next month, and get a voucher
3. Redeem both vouchers in December, get a private key for part of the funds, and get another voucher for later use.

That makes it very unlikely anyone can ever link any of the inputs through chain analysis.

[moejoejay]

@LoyceV:

Even if i sweeping the part of the funds in December in my Wallet ? Is there any connection to the past ? no or ?  

3. Redeem both vouchers in December, get a private key for part of the funds, and get another voucher for later use.

How many Funds has to be left for the new Voucher for later use  to keep privacy , i think u has to make input and output amount unequal in some way hasnt it  ? but how big has the difference be to gain ( keep) privacy  ?  

best regards  

[LoyceV]

Even if i sweeping the part of the funds in December in my Wallet ? Is there any connection to the past ? no or ?

There are probably many potential connections if someone would search for data on the blockchain. But it won't be possible to know for sure which transactions are connected, and if there are enough possibilities, I don't think you can still call it a connection. It will be a guessing game.

3. Redeem both vouchers in December, get a private key for part of the funds, and get another voucher for later use.

How many Funds has to be left for the new Voucher for later use  to keep privacy , i think u has to make input and output amount unequal in some way hasnt it  ? but how big has the difference be to gain ( keep) privacy  ?

I can't tell you how to divide funds, but instead of trying to take special care of the sizes, I'd say just don't make it predictable.

[moejoejay]

I can't tell you how to divide funds, but instead of trying to take special care of the sizes, I'd say just don't make it predictable.

This like : How i can pass the Math exam ? Do math : )

i think ure talking about  donateing etc. , but i just asked how much funds has to be left on chipmixer that the amount are not predictable

best regards  

[jackg]

I can't tell you how to divide funds, but instead of trying to take special care of the sizes,

i think ure talking about  donateing etc. , but i just asked how much funds has to be left on chipmixer that the amount are not predictable

I thought you were both talking about the split function on chipmixer... Donation works as well though but say you deposit 1.024BTC and you split it down to 8x0.128 chiips and went to withdraw them for 8 months (as an example) withdrawing one chip a month after redeeming it's voucher code then that'll do better for increasing your privacy that splitting into 2 0.512 chips and withdrawing immediately. However, don't go over the top with it and 0.128 might be doing that (and don't withdraw them all to the same address either).

(changing the sizes of the chips you redeem will be better for privacy too rather than redeeming a load of chips of one size)

[squatz1]

Site seems to be down right now, any official reasoning for this and any ETA on it being stable again?

Thanks!

[TryNinja]

Site seems to be down right now, any official reasoning for this and any ETA on it being stable again?

Thanks!

Constant DDoS attacks. ETA is when they stop attacking or when Tor fixes the vulnerability that let’s people DDoS a website (for the Tor mirror).

[CryptoBry]

Site seems to be down right now, any official reasoning for this and any ETA on it being stable again?

Thanks!

Constant DDoS attacks. ETA is when they stop attacking or when Tor fixes the vulnerability that let’s people DDoS a website (for the Tor mirror).

I have a friend requested me to look for a good Bitcoin mixing/tumbling platform he can use and I am aware that ChipMixer is active in this forum with its ongoing signature campaign so I thought that maybe I can recommend this to him. When I entered the site it is offline and I thought what can be wrong? So it is having its share of  DDoS attacks right now and in this case we just have to wait for some hours. Reading all the comments here, it seems that ChipMixer continues to be the most reliable among its competitors and that it is very responsive to the needs of its customers.

[squatz1]

Site seems to be down right now, any official reasoning for this and any ETA on it being stable again?

Thanks!

Constant DDoS attacks. ETA is when they stop attacking or when Tor fixes the vulnerability that let’s people DDoS a website (for the Tor mirror).

Got it.

Guess this is something the site has to deal with pretty often though. Thanks man!