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July 09, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
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No, I'm not afraid.
After all, I don't think that may things for us, average users, will change.
In my opinion, btc price will not change much.
If we really see some radical change (what I doubt) sill we can move to other crypto currencies and continue to earn profit.
I don't worry much.

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July 09, 2017, 11:46:01 AM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.
well ups and downs are a part of the market and as it is trading so anything can happen but there are also predictions and checking. So some recent predictions and surveys shows that on august 1st the price is gonna hit a higher price, its not a sure thing neither is the opposite case. This is just what I saw in articles and discussions, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Its trading, anything is possible.

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July 09, 2017, 11:49:03 AM
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Hi all,
instead of opening new thread I would initially ask here if you don't mind Smiley
I have all my BTC on Electrum since 2013.
Now this hardfork is coming and I'm not sure what to do.
Please can you tell me if I should quickly download BTC core wallet and transfer all BTC there or should I just leave all BTC on Electrum ?
If there is a bitcoin fork and if there is a split in the network you will be able to claim your coins from both the chains if you are having control of your private key,because having the private key gives you the complete control over your coins and since Electrum is a light weight wallet where you have the private key there is nothing to worry. Smiley

Private key = QR code which is displayed after I right click on addresses ?

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July 09, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.
well ups and downs are a part of the market and as it is trading so anything can happen but there are also predictions and checking. So some recent predictions and surveys shows that on august 1st the price is gonna hit a higher price, its not a sure thing neither is the opposite case. This is just what I saw in articles and discussions, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Its trading, anything is possible.

There will be two different Bitcoins after 1st of August.?
Which one would be good and which one bad ?
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July 09, 2017, 12:02:09 PM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.
well ups and downs are a part of the market and as it is trading so anything can happen but there are also predictions and checking. So some recent predictions and surveys shows that on august 1st the price is gonna hit a higher price, its not a sure thing neither is the opposite case. This is just what I saw in articles and discussions, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Its trading, anything is possible.

There will be two different Bitcoins after 1st of August.?
Which one would be good and which one bad ?
2 different bitcoins can happen only if miners wouldn't accept changes. In my words: On August 1st, a change in block will happen (segwit for example) if let's say only 40% of hashing power accept this change (start accepting blocks with segwit) this would result in 2 different Bitcoins. If 51% hash power or more start accepting blocks with segwit this would become longest chain and other one would be erased.
It's up to you to decide which one is better Cheesy I personally think there must be some changes in transaction fees so i would prefer blocks with segwit.

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July 09, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.
well ups and downs are a part of the market and as it is trading so anything can happen but there are also predictions and checking. So some recent predictions and surveys shows that on august 1st the price is gonna hit a higher price, its not a sure thing neither is the opposite case. This is just what I saw in articles and discussions, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Its trading, anything is possible.

There will be two different Bitcoins after 1st of August.?
Which one would be good and which one bad ?
2 different bitcoins can happen only if miners wouldn't accept changes. In my words: On August 1st, a change in block will happen (segwit for example) if let's say only 40% of hashing power accept this change (start accepting blocks with segwit) this would result in 2 different Bitcoins. If 51% hash power or more start accepting blocks with segwit this would become longest chain and other one would be erased.
It's up to you to decide which one is better Cheesy I personally think there must be some changes in transaction fees so i would prefer blocks with segwit.

So current BTC will be in which Blockchain ?
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July 09, 2017, 12:09:19 PM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.
well ups and downs are a part of the market and as it is trading so anything can happen but there are also predictions and checking. So some recent predictions and surveys shows that on august 1st the price is gonna hit a higher price, its not a sure thing neither is the opposite case. This is just what I saw in articles and discussions, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Its trading, anything is possible.

There will be two different Bitcoins after 1st of August.?
Which one would be good and which one bad ?
2 different bitcoins can happen only if miners wouldn't accept changes. In my words: On August 1st, a change in block will happen (segwit for example) if let's say only 40% of hashing power accept this change (start accepting blocks with segwit) this would result in 2 different Bitcoins. If 51% hash power or more start accepting blocks with segwit this would become longest chain and other one would be erased.
It's up to you to decide which one is better Cheesy I personally think there must be some changes in transaction fees so i would prefer blocks with segwit.
The miners are most interested in the fact that bitcoin remains stable and not broke. They have a lot of money invested in mining equipment so readily available. I'm sure after August 1 will not change anything.
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July 09, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
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We are already in July and August 1 is coming...the day when Segwit would start signalling for all and what will happen after this date is something many fear of. Will there be a split and what will happen on the split?

I have already read some assurance that at the current rate things are doing, the possibility for a split is getting remote. Maybe the overarching interest of all stakeholders has already dawned to many.

I think it will be a good day for bitcoin. because bitcoin means gold.so 1st August fair for bitcoin

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July 09, 2017, 12:18:26 PM
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No doubt that majority of us wants to see something good with bitcoin and this is also the reason why soft fork and hard fork is being seen as the solution to all of our current issues with bitcoin. With this implementation bitcoin price will surely rise up and break out. The problem is what if things goes wrong during implementation and what if bitcoin blockchain will stop working and will go down because of "something" which we dont know yet. what is you tried to check on your bitcoin balance and nothing is showing up or nothing is loading? what will you do?
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July 09, 2017, 12:22:39 PM
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No doubt that majority of us wants to see something good with bitcoin and this is also the reason why soft fork and hard fork is being seen as the solution to all of our current issues with bitcoin. With this implementation bitcoin price will surely rise up and break out. The problem is what if things goes wrong during implementation and what if bitcoin blockchain will stop working and will go down because of "something" which we dont know yet. what is you tried to check on your bitcoin balance and nothing is showing up or nothing is loading? what will you do?

Hard and soft fork will bed up the price fluctuations by increase the supply and demand of bitcoin more. I don't think that bitcoin will face problem if segwit has been activated now or after August. We don't need to sell the bitcoin now or in future. It doubles the as a years moves up.
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July 09, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.
well ups and downs are a part of the market and as it is trading so anything can happen but there are also predictions and checking. So some recent predictions and surveys shows that on august 1st the price is gonna hit a higher price, its not a sure thing neither is the opposite case. This is just what I saw in articles and discussions, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Its trading, anything is possible.

There will be two different Bitcoins after 1st of August.?
Which one would be good and which one bad ?
No in the event of a split, there will be just one Bitcoin and an altcoin. We know Bitcoin has always been a survivor, so there is really nothing to freak about, just be sure to be in full control of your coins by holding the private keys and all will be well. Won't be a surprise if price dips a bit about that time on account of panic sell off, but that would simply present us an opportunity to buy Bitcoin at cheaper rate again.
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July 09, 2017, 04:06:27 PM
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Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.

My advice is don't be a weak hand and sell your bitcoins. don't believe what you see upfront, not everything is true as they appear. be a stong hand who is not easily shaken.

bitcoin will either go up or down. if it goes down, just buy more because the price will just go back again . imo bitcoin and its community is strong enough to withstand the

negative effects that might occur on the given date.

The impact will affect towards the end of this month, I think bitcoin will return like two months ago where the movement is only played by the market. So far, the news that keeps bitcoin price down makes the bitcoin price higher, I'm part of a community that believes and tries to keep bitcoin stable.

Really appreciate it, i will hold onto it until it hit my target price, now im not afraid for the said august 1. I am now convince to hold and dont sell on panic because bitcoin will surely bounce back, after its a good community.
if bitcoin go down in 1st august it's a good opportunity to buy as long as don't panic about the down of bitcoin price its can be a advantage. I tried to hold bitcoin until 1 august I was very curious on that day.
This is something I will also look for, if the price of bitcoin goes down because people are afraid of what may happen I will take the opportunity to buy as much bitcoin as I can afford and take that opportunity of a lifetime, to buy heavily discounted bitcoin and hold it forever.

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July 09, 2017, 04:14:54 PM
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Even the price, if affected a great deal, will settle back after some time.  It is not that big of a deal, and no matter what your opinion of the changes, there is nothing that most people can do either way.  If you are scared, either sell out before hand(not suggested) or keep them offline for a day or two around the first.

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July 09, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
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I'm not worried/afraid, it's something that has to be done in order to move forward. just don't sell your coins at a loss, keep holding. Wink  
I do not even understand what they are worried about, I still keep some coins for sale in august. I'm sure nothing bad will happen. Relax
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July 09, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
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I should have bought more the other day. Now its up again. Anyone selling btc at a lower rate?
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July 09, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
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The highest % of the outcome is that this is all a big fat bluff, just like xt, classic, and unlimited were. The actors at play know the consequences of a hardfork, and ASSUMING that the actors at play are not enemies of bitcoin but have another view about how to scale, will come to terms and accept the reality of things here: The network is not at full capacity, and it was a fucking spam attack by Roger again, we don't need a contentious hardfork that would ruin the project.

If they still go through they unmask themselves as enemies of bitcoin.
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The highest % of the outcome is that this is all a big fat bluff, just like xt, classic, and unlimited were. The actors at play know the consequences of a hardfork
SegWit 2x is not a hard fork until the change to 2MB base blocks, three months after SegWit activation. 

XT, Classic and Unlimited never had enough mining support to happen, and were not "bluffs", just "failed proposals".
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July 09, 2017, 05:20:30 PM
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I should have bought more the other day. Now its up again. Anyone selling btc at a lower rate?
Most people are just waiting for next Friday.  Cheesy
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July 09, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
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The highest % of the outcome is that this is all a big fat bluff, just like xt, classic, and unlimited were. The actors at play know the consequences of a hardfork
SegWit 2x is not a hard fork until the change to 2MB base blocks, three months after SegWit activation. 

XT, Classic and Unlimited never had enough mining support to happen, and were not "bluffs", just "failed proposals".

Unlimited had a pretty high % of hashrate, higher than BIP141 in fact.

Now BIP141 is going up by the way, it's hitting all time highs recently. There's still time for miners and everyone else involved in the hardfork to avoid a war they will lose at the expense of every holder's loss, by enabling segwit by means of BIP141.
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July 09, 2017, 05:34:32 PM
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The highest % of the outcome is that this is all a big fat bluff, just like xt, classic, and unlimited were. The actors at play know the consequences of a hardfork
SegWit 2x is not a hard fork until the change to 2MB base blocks, three months after SegWit activation. 

XT, Classic and Unlimited never had enough mining support to happen, and were not "bluffs", just "failed proposals".

Unlimited had a pretty high % of hashrate, higher than BIP141 in fact.

Now BIP141 is going up by the way, it's hitting all time highs recently. There's still time for miners and everyone else involved in the hardfork to avoid a war they will lose at the expense of every holder's loss, by enabling segwit by means of BIP141.

I think SegWit will get activated. But I do not think this would be a losing war for the Miners. Smiley. I reckon they just can't hedge the risk.
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