Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big.

[Minor Miner]

How would you even "trade" your BCC?   There are only a few blocks a day.

Phil.   what is the best solo mining pool for litecoin?   does one even exist like ck's btc one?

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[GabryRox]

Yeah, the value of BCH is much higher than I expected at this point. I really thought it would bottom out under $100 after the first few hours of people dumping huge amounts to convert to BTC, but that didn't seem to happen.  I have most of my BTC & ETH on a Ledger Nano S, but I left about 1.5 BTC on Bittrex just to see what would happen with the split and to potentially dump BCH early on while it was still high (in my theory anyway).  Fortunately, I got tied up with work and couldn't monitor my Bittrex account closely and by the time i realized they had credited me with my 1.5 BCH, it was at about $350 so I just decided to leave it there and see what happens.  

Woke up the morning and saw it around $800 so I dumped half of it.  Crazy to see that it was actually over $1000 at one point but i was literally sleeping so missed that boat lol.  Very glad I moved nearly all my BTC off of Coinbase prior to this event... seems like there are a lot of people that either didn't read their notice or had trouble moving off their BTC and they are livid, accusing CB of stealing, etc, etc.  

As I understand it, my balance of BTC on my Nano should also get the equivalent BCH correct?   I read some press release indicating they would be adding BCH to their BTC wallet app but it wasn't clear if I had to do something manually to split the coins or if the BCH balance would show up automatically.

[citronick]

How would you even "trade" your BCC?   There are only a few blocks a day.

Phil.   what is the best solo mining pool for litecoin?   does one even exist like ck's btc one?

Minor....

check out

http://ltc.tbdice.org/

The OP there is "loshia"

its a ckpool powered, segwit and solo "merge" DOGE too

I got a few dozen solo rewards here in the past but I cannot compete with a 300GHs miner currently leaderboard there.

[GabryRox]

I'm not splitting anything at the moment.
I simply do not believe that someone will GIVE you 000's for free.

Too good to be true.

No, it's real... at least with the BCH balances credited by Bittrex.  I just sold .75 BCH and got about .23 BTC for it. Technically, I could move that .23 BTC over to Coinbase right now and cash it out, so it is essentially free money.  The school of thought prior to the split seemed to be that logically, the combined value of BTC & BCH should be roughly equivalent to the pre-split value of BTC, which was about $2,800-$2,850.  However, that has clearly not been the case, at least not yet, since BTC is only down slightly to $2,700 but BCH, while starting to fall a bit, is still above $700, so combined value of $3,400, which is good 20% over BTC pre-split price.

What i find very interesting is the huge difference between BCH prices on Bitrex vs Kraken.  Bittrex has been running around $300 higher than Kraken for some reason. Just counting myself lucky that I had my little balance on Bittrex.

[SVK]

I know very little how it exactly works so maybe that's why I'm more cautious.

My main concern is that:
1; I will split coins
2; now I will sell Bitmain cash
3; I will still hold BTC
4; some time down the line BTC will disappear

I have 5 BTC  so now I will sell 5 Bitmain cash so will be left with 5 BTC.
2-3 months later my 5 BTC will disappear because Bitmain cash was somehow linked with my orig BTC.

This might be complete nonsense for what I know.

Still don't believe that someone is going to give me anything for free in today's world.   

[COINKING84]

I know very little how it exactly works so maybe that's why I'm more cautious.

My main concern is that:
1; I will split coins
2; now I will sell Bitmain cash
3; I will still hold BTC
4; some time down the line BTC will disappear

I have 5 BTC  so now I will sell 5 Bitmain cash so will be left with 5 BTC.
2-3 months later my 5 BTC will disappear because Bitmain cash was somehow linked with my orig BTC.

This might be complete nonsense for what I know.

Still don't believe that someone is going to give me anything for free in today's world.   

don't know why but i have the same feeling, something seems weird about it all?!?   

[philipma1957]

How would you even "trade" your BCC?   There are only a few blocks a day.

Phil.   what is the best solo mining pool for litecoin?   does one even exist like ck's btc one?

The only one I know for LTC

http://mining.securepayment.cc/pools/litecoin/





They also did PPC  I hit 6 solo  blocks  of PPC  before I quit PPC mining.

http://mining.securepayment.cc/pools/ppcoin/


Are they honest or good I have no idea.

They have 20 + solo pools

[citronick]

How would you even "trade" your BCC?   There are only a few blocks a day.

Phil.   what is the best solo mining pool for litecoin?   does one even exist like ck's btc one?

The only one I know for LTC

http://mining.securepayment.cc/pools/litecoin/





They also did PPC  I hit 6 solo  blocks  of PPC  before I quit PPC mining.

http://mining.securepayment.cc/pools/ppcoin/


Are they honest or good I have no idea.

They have 20 + solo pools

In addition to

http://ltc.tbdice.org/

Nicehash also has solo pools for BTC, DASH and LTC

solo.nicehash.com

Used them for DASH solo a few times... not bad

[philipma1957]

I know very little how it exactly works so maybe that's why I'm more cautious.

My main concern is that:
1; I will split coins
2; now I will sell Bitmain cash
3; I will still hold BTC
4; some time down the line BTC will disappear

I have 5 BTC  so now I will sell 5 Bitmain cash so will be left with 5 BTC.
2-3 months later my 5 BTC will disappear because Bitmain cash was somehow linked with my orig BTC.

This might be complete nonsense for what I know.

Still don't believe that someone is going to give me anything for free in today's world.  

don't know why but i have the same feeling, something seems weird about it all?!?  

It is called wealth creation.  High risk shit.  

 Coins have value because we the market say so.  No more complicated then we agree there is value in crypto coins therefore is value in crypto coins.

So if you alter and morph the creator coin BTC it can be worth more   or less.  Very high risk to do this as some may perceive the coin was too easy to change and is too risky.  

Think whales   I can assure you Bittrex made it very easy to get this boost.  Don't you think  the are now open to an insider trader case.

They refuse deposits of other BCC  such as mine all safe in my core wallet.

Or worse yet coinbase  they stole huge amounts of BCC.

Or how about this  coinbase and bittrex did a back door deal and coinbase had 10000 btc on bittrex which was quickly changed to 10000 btc and 10000 bcc which means

10000 x .4 or 4000 btc once you trade the bcc away.

this is a huge fuckup and money grab by insiders  look for a shit ton of shake ups to follow.

well we wait for dust to settle.  but I think  the bold above could be true.

also remember btc-e was raided right before this happened.

there will be a lot of conspiracy theories tossed about.

[reflexmk]

Guys, can anyone access Poloniex? WTF is with them lately.

[QuintLeo]

I'm not splitting anything at the moment.
I simply do not believe that someone will GIVE you 000's for free.

Too good to be true.

 You apparently missed the ETH / ETC fork-and-split.




 To reflexmk - Poloniex has had tons of issues for quite a while now, which is why I dropped them and won't even LOOK at their broken BS for the foreseeable future.

[fr4nkthetank]

I know very little how it exactly works so maybe that's why I'm more cautious.

My main concern is that:
1; I will split coins
2; now I will sell Bitmain cash
3; I will still hold BTC
4; some time down the line BTC will disappear

I have 5 BTC  so now I will sell 5 Bitmain cash so will be left with 5 BTC.
2-3 months later my 5 BTC will disappear because Bitmain cash was somehow linked with my orig BTC.

This might be complete nonsense for what I know.

Still don't believe that someone is going to give me anything for free in today's world.  

don't know why but i have the same feeling, something seems weird about it all?!?  

If you create a new wallet, then send all your btc over to it, you now have the same btc in a new wallet.  
On a different machine, install the bitcoin cash wallet, and import the seed/private keys from the old wallet (which now has a balance of 0)
you will now have the Bitcoin Cash on the other machine, and your original BTC is safe.
Should be good

edit:  and yeah I sold all my bch i had on bittrex / cryptopia at 0.36 (not a lot)...once the floodgates open for deposits watch out that price is going to crash I think.  Then i'm pretty sure they will pump it up x4 x5 again after a few weeks.

[JaredKaragen]

I personally have a coinbase account with some BTC in it;  I will be monitoring the blockchain of BCC to see if my unique addresses from coinbase popup post-fork.... this will be a true sign if they are doing "dirty business".


I believe phil's comment above in bold is a very real possibility.


and for those who don't know;  BCC has a completely different difficulty retargeting scheme.  Much faster.  MEant to smooth over the transition in hashrates between BTC and BCC.

FYI:  This forum has it posted as BCH;  and yobit and other exchanges labeled it as BCC (which makes more sense to me given its name as BitCoinCash).  I will keep referring to it myself as BCC.

This instant creation of value is going to affect both prices of BTC and BCC in the end;  wherein the impact will be most felt in BTC as it is the higher valued coin.

I personally see BCC becoming "more rare" than BTC because of the fewer people actually splitting their coins, as well as the exchanges/wallets that do not offer the split option....  not to mention the huge premine of satoshi that has yet to be touched (and I doubt ever will be touched).  With how cautious satoshi was at the beginning, I think still to this day, he wouldn't want to chance it coming back to label him as who he is. (or her/she).

[rs1x]

so we are all well aware difficulty has spiked over the last day or so.  It's spiked harder than I would have expected.  3 rigs all RX 470/570/580 cards.  Previously i was making about 3.15 eth per month.  Looking @ numbers it looks like that is down to 2.5 eth per month.  I use ethermine as a pool.

I've seen you guys mention a few times using nicehash.  My struggle there is, if i switch to nicehash, and they end up mining ETH anyway, seems like a wasted effort.

Any advice from some of the veterans here?

bump  - any veterans?

keep chugging away with eth or try to flip to another ethhash coin?  There are clearly some very smart people lurking around here.  Looking for a push in the right direction.

[citronick]

so we are all well aware difficulty has spiked over the last day or so.  It's spiked harder than I would have expected.  3 rigs all RX 470/570/580 cards.  Previously i was making about 3.15 eth per month.  Looking @ numbers it looks like that is down to 2.5 eth per month.  I use ethermine as a pool.

I've seen you guys mention a few times using nicehash.  My struggle there is, if i switch to nicehash, and they end up mining ETH anyway, seems like a wasted effort.

Any advice from some of the veterans here?

bump  - any veterans?

keep chugging away with eth or try to flip to another ethhash coin?  There are clearly some very smart people lurking around here.  Looking for a push in the right direction.

BTC survived a major fork, so it will go up in value.

I would focus on BTC because best upside to ROI current rigs and get more rigs...

Nicehash pays in BTC like clockwork

In whattomine.com, Nicehash@Ethash marketplace is the most profitable.... sometimes payout even more than ETH.

If you have a farm of rigs mining ETH..... my advise, stay on because the ice-age effect is bearable due to the big hash power. My 6GHs ETH farm churns about 1.5 ETH per day.

If you have just a couple of rigs, then NH is a good place to further ROI your rigs by collecting BTC.

There are other Ethash/Dagger-Hashimoto coins, Music, Komodo, ETC, UBIQ etc.., but you need a different strategy all together for that.

So the answer to your question is obvious.

Just my 2 cents.

[generalt]

Yeah I just went through the process of transferring all my coins from my old wallet to a newly created wallet.  Remember to change all your mining accounts to mine to your new address on your new wallet.  You still have to keep your old wallet to get your last payments out when they do come in.  Once I have enough confirmations I'll start up the BCC wallet and import the keys.  Anybody have any advice on which BCC wallet to use?

[Marvell1]

Im sooo glad I never touched a foot into poloniex..... that's my only comment there.

Yobit gave me a 1:1 ratio of BCC to BTC for what I had in my BTC wallet on the exchange... too bad they haven't reloaded their hot wallet in a few weeks or I would have double what I have now....   (owed via signature campaign payments)

BCC seems to be trading wildly, but on the gradual uptick.  I also find it humorous that the BCT forum via the link up top is referring to it as BCH....

Im curious wherein it will finally lie;   as, its value just can't be fathomed up just like the FED does with cash....  its gotta come from "somewhere"...  So where it ends up coming from, is anyone's guess.

Quite a battle back and forth with BTC and BCC... lots of resistance from both sides to move upwards....  Im curious at how long they will hold each other back.

well I have 8 coins in a core 0.14.2 wallet  which is nice as in theroy

 I now have 8 BTC and 8 BCC.

Since I can not deposit the BCC  into bittrex  I am leaving it alone.

I have not split the wallet.  BCC  got up to .43 BTC

So some serious money was made at bittrex if you left coins there. as they are letting you trade it.

yeah i really dropped the ball on this one, i had 10 btc split btwen livecoin and bitrexx, also had another 5 btc in other alts in bittrexx i was loath to liquidate to incrrase my btc before the fork. livecoin still hasnt even started trading let alone crediting bcc, i sold the 5 bcc bittrexx gave me at .244 and .344 half and half , but if i had trusted my gut and sold my 5btc in alts and kept the 5 btc from livecoin in bittrexx it could have been a 15k day of profit for me instead of like what 4k?

[philipma1957]

Im sooo glad I never touched a foot into poloniex..... that's my only comment there.

Yobit gave me a 1:1 ratio of BCC to BTC for what I had in my BTC wallet on the exchange... too bad they haven't reloaded their hot wallet in a few weeks or I would have double what I have now....   (owed via signature campaign payments)

BCC seems to be trading wildly, but on the gradual uptick.  I also find it humorous that the BCT forum via the link up top is referring to it as BCH....

Im curious wherein it will finally lie;   as, its value just can't be fathomed up just like the FED does with cash....  its gotta come from "somewhere"...  So where it ends up coming from, is anyone's guess.

Quite a battle back and forth with BTC and BCC... lots of resistance from both sides to move upwards....  Im curious at how long they will hold each other back.

well I have 8 coins in a core 0.14.2 wallet  which is nice as in theroy

 I now have 8 BTC and 8 BCC.

Since I can not deposit the BCC  into bittrex  I am leaving it alone.

I have not split the wallet.  BCC  got up to .43 BTC

So some serious money was made at bittrex if you left coins there. as they are letting you trade it.

yeah i really dropped the ball on this one, i had 10 btc split btwen livecoin and bitrexx, also had another 5 btc in other alts in bittrexx i was loath to liquidate to incrrase my btc before the fork. livecoin still hasnt even started trading let alone crediting bcc, i sold the 5 bcc bittrexx gave me at .244 and .344 half and half , but if i had trusted my gut and sold my 5btc in alts and kept the 5 btc from livecoin in bittrexx it could have been a 15k day of profit for me instead of like what 4k?

Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

[generalt]

Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.

[Marvell1]

Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.

Yeah i think they knew that going in, with slow blocks even if you sent your BCC to bittrexx it would not get there for days , ppl can try and sue but they wont win any law suits due to the fact the exchanges who colluded will just blame the BCC network status