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Author Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3  (Read 299606 times)
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November 09, 2017, 03:17:17 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.
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November 09, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
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Maybe you should demand that Bitmain just refund all of our money for these dogs!!  Like that will work!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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November 09, 2017, 03:23:55 PM
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I know. It's not my petition. But anyway let bitmain know our opinion.  Wink
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November 09, 2017, 03:26:22 PM
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Like they care, they already have your money.  For those of us who have been mining a while, there is always risk, there has always been risk.  If you can't deal with it you shouldn't be mining.  I know I have 4 of these coming in soon, I know they are going to sell at a loss.  But you lick your wounds and keep on mining.

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November 09, 2017, 03:34:54 PM
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OK i have both my D3 up and mining

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November 09, 2017, 03:35:44 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.
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November 09, 2017, 03:38:20 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?

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November 09, 2017, 03:44:18 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?

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November 09, 2017, 03:48:22 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

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November 09, 2017, 03:50:48 PM
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I would advice you to let some more space behind the D3, otherwise they will heat up very quickly...
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November 09, 2017, 03:59:22 PM
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OK i have both my D3 up and mining


Nice, best of luck! Watch your Chip temps and HW errors. These are some hot runnin bastards. Seems like Bitmain kicked the frequency up to near Redline at 537. I run mine all at 525 or lower to help stabilize them. Whenever I let them run at 537, no matter how much I cool them they start kicking out HW errors and crashing boards. Might want to manually set your fans to 80-100% too.

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November 09, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue

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November 09, 2017, 04:06:27 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue



As a newbie you haven't seen this cycle yet.  When gridseed came out with the 5 chip miners, people jumped all over them.  Then the next shiny toy came out, old product got dumped and new miners were bought.  This cycle has been going on for years.  In a year a faster miner will come out to even the playing field and everyone will be jumping all over it.
It's supply and demand, Bitmain puts them up for sale (they don't even have them yet), let's say 20,000 units.  In a couple days all units are sold.  Rinse and repeat.  If people are still buying them why shouldn't they make them?

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November 09, 2017, 04:12:52 PM
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Wow great but like somebody said by the time we get it and start using the speed may not be the same as now.
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November 09, 2017, 04:13:56 PM
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Wow great but like somebody said by the time we get it and start using the speed may not be the same as now.

Yep, we're all idiots!!

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November 09, 2017, 04:23:52 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue


That's a great point D3 and I agree wholeheartedly, but reality is, in today's corporate grab bag, it's all about rape and pillage. Damn the torpedoes and fuck the customer. Get what you can when you can. Too bad really. Kind of Ironic, Crypto and Block Chain are a libertarian initiative, designed to combat exactly that ethos, yet, here we are, getting buttraped by a huge corporation right in the Crypto backyard!!

BTW......I can't stop laughing at your choice of Screen name. No offense but that's a Helluva screename!! LOL!

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November 09, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
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If you'd read about the chips inside the D3, you'd know what you're asking is not possible. Baikal have been designed this way, you cannot physically change these chips to allow other algos.

Probably you are right and I am wrong , technically
But bitmain must know its fault and should do something if it is possible.
May be, they will reconsider their sale policy , aspect of customers rights
Would not it be great injustice to continue as if nothing had happened?
They are still selling L3+ anyway
They dont have rights to kill customers investement .
This is about  customer rights , Not chips.

Dude, Bitmain is based in China.  What makes you think you have any rights there?


this is not a fucking cell phone which they can produce and sell witohout limit.
is it realy so hard to understand for you ?



Sure it is, there is no law saying they can't produce millions of them.  If people (us) are still buying them, they will still produce them.  Why wouldn't they?  In a year they will produce newer/faster models and the cycle will start all over again.  People that get in on the 1st batch will make money and everyone else seeing how much money they are making will jump on the bandwagon and get screwed.
What make you think Bitmain gives a rat's ass about your rights, they are in business to make money.

surely there is no law violation, absolutely
but as the biggest firm in the market, we have to ask Bitmain to comply with some ethical rules.
Only they can anticipate the increase in difficulty and take the necessary precautions( like to not selling too much)
In order for the market to be sustainable, it is necessary to stick to a simple rule like not killing algorithims
actually, The only purpose is to emphasize this issue



As a newbie you haven't seen this cycle yet.  When gridseed came out with the 5 chip miners, people jumped all over them.  Then the next shiny toy came out, old product got dumped and new miners were bought.  This cycle has been going on for years.  In a year a faster miner will come out to even the playing field and everyone will be jumping all over it.
It's supply and demand, Bitmain puts them up for sale (they don't even have them yet), let's say 20,000 units.  In a couple days all units are sold.  Rinse and repeat.  If people are still buying them why shouldn't they make them?
So true. The scariest thing is, soon they will hit the wall on Technology advancements and the whole "mining train" will hit the station with no brakes at 200mph. The only "miners" will be large corporations with free electricity because they greased Government palms.

You only live once....if you do it right, once is enough.

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November 09, 2017, 04:32:49 PM
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So true. The scariest thing is, soon they will hit the wall on Technology advancements and the whole "mining train" will hit the station with no brakes at 200mph. The only "miners" will be large corporations with free electricity because they greased Government palms.

Funny, that's what people were saying 3-4 years ago.  So far it hasn't come to pass.  Not sure it ever will.

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November 09, 2017, 04:33:00 PM
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Guys cheer up. your in before "the man"  lol

stop complaining and "plug it in"
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November 09, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
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Guys cheer up. your in before "the man"  lol

stop complaining and "plug it in"

So true, no one says you have to mine Dash.  Pick a shitcoin and hope the price goes up!!

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