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August 01, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
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This was discussed in the thread and everyone  agreed what the extra coins from POS being generated was going to be used for.



how dare you said everyone agreed for  dev team staking the premined coins?you have no qualify to represent everyone in the community,i never agree of staking the premined coins!

Indeed !

The Community was NEVER asked if it should be allowed to STAKE the PREMINE

NO It's not allowed!

The Community does not want this and never allowed this

Got it, crypto-rainbow, DeepOnion administrator?


This statement has got to be one of the sillier things I have read on the internet, and we all know that there is a lot of silliness out there.  Staking pre-mine isn't against some unwritten rule, the devs didn't ask anyones permission to develop the coin, they have been upfront that those wallets are staking.  They've even added another week to the airdrop, Week 41 for, I think, they are calling it like a Founders Airdrop.

You're putting an awful lot of effort into trying to de-rail a young altcoin, perhaps you should try and create one yourself instead?  You might find creation more satisfying than spreading FUD.

This member of the community, thinks it's ok to stake the pre-mine, so your blanket statement is obviously false.  Don't try to speak for everyone Smiley

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August 01, 2017, 03:50:26 PM
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“A wise man never knows all, only fools know everything.”

good luck @ DogeMajestic   Tongue Tongue Tongue
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August 01, 2017, 06:19:59 PM
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A scam or a valuable coin? The funny thing is that if people will abandon this coin we will never know Smiley

Why would all people abandon the coin? the airdrops / sig campaign will go on for another 38 weeks. You don't really believe enough people believe the FUD being spread to not take free coins?

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August 01, 2017, 07:09:30 PM
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A scam or a valuable coin? The funny thing is that if people will abandon this coin we will never know Smiley

Why would all people abandon the coin? the airdrops / sig campaign will go on for another 38 weeks. You don't really believe enough people believe the FUD being spread to not take free coins?

This is the start of something great!!! When a coin gets so much publicity and FUD. If you don't like the idea, simply leave. BTC didnt gain traction in a day, and Satoshi had/has millions of BTC. Now early adopters of BTC got it almost free to the extent 10000btc for 2 pizzas. The point is, Dump or not, if this coin stands up to its reputation as a truely anonymous coin that was distributed freely for posting on a thread that you would have done anyways, interest in it will grow. whether dev dumps fast or slow doesnt matter. If people are interested they will buy coins. Plus, The market will determine its true value over time. My 2 sats.

P.S. A lot of us will rank faster because of this project, and that's one of the benefits I see.

Whatever you decide is totally up to you. I'd rather be here than in an illegal ICO scam.

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August 01, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
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im surprised the OP isnt taken seriously, if the dev is using POS on the premine meant for distribution? hmm. At least if you do that give to the people more coins. Though this week they said they are giving 50% more. its very odd
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August 01, 2017, 10:22:20 PM
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premine so what, alrealy explained over and over by week 40 we'll have most coins to stake. Not to mention the stakes coins will be airdropped also.
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August 02, 2017, 02:43:37 AM
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I will also buy onions 0.0000012 if anybody you haters willing to sell...

Nobody forced anybody to get in the boat for airdrop and nobody ask for money its free.

As long i dont need to pay nothing for it, it doesnt matter for me if dev is staking.
I dont know why so much negative post. Nobody was scammed.

As regarding 10 post, people usually write so much shit, that is not problem
to get 10 post anywhere on forum and you get coins...

Mind your own bussines, if its not for you others will replace your place.

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August 02, 2017, 07:54:37 AM
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I find it trully concerning that a lot of people here seem to talk with "ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY", like you ""HAVE the information that this is a scam.

If we analyze what the OP here has said, he just pointed out some facts that did not please him because he acted entitled regarding the dev "I WANT ANSWERS AND YOU ARE OBLIGED TO GIVE ME SOME"
An entitled attitude rarely produces the results you seek.

I am a nuclear reactor engineer and in that field, you have to be careful with what you "think" you know. You always have to watch out for the probability of being wrong. because of this, in that field, the word "certainty" and entitled attitude have to be washed down the drains.

In the OP of DeepOnion,
- 70% of the premined coins are said to be destined for the AIRDROPS.
- 20 % for bounties and promotions
- 10% for the devs

That means that after 36 weeks from now, the only thing that the devs will have in their hands is:
- 10% of the coins
- The staked DeepOnions from the premined coins

If we consider the possibility that the project is not a scam, and currently NO ONE can say with absolute certainty that it is, then all of the people here talking like THEY KNOW THE ANSWER will look like pure fools and idiots, only because they act entitled.

Dear Dogemajestic, maybe you should put some nuances in your sentences and be more prudent in your conclusions. Also start considering the fact that you do not have all the answers, therefore stating that "THIS PROJECT IS A SCAM" is pure arrogance for it goes with the assumption that "YOU KNOW THE ANSWER".

You have the right to be concerned, the right to dislike the project or how it is handled, you have the right to raise the issue about the premined coins or the staking, raise the issue of a possible dump on exchanges. However, you cannot act as if "you knew", for if you are wrong, you would have contributed to destroy the project because of failure to recognize your own limitations.

And as you can see, i have not tried to either defend or destroy the project, this is not what I am here for. In a purely scientific POV, your approach is fundamentally flawed.

Only time will tell. The project will not air on the exchanges anytime soon and by that time, the premined coins should be significantly distributed.

Parameter to check for being either right/wrong :
- Total holding of those top 10 accounts : should diminish at an increasing rate (150k per week and more afterwards)

I hope you will all see in this post a way to ease your emotions and start being more rational and prudent. Jumping to conclusions only leads to being wrong and look like an idiot. Time will tell and we shall see the end of it.

Good day to everyone

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August 02, 2017, 09:52:19 AM
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Even if there's no way to tell if its a scam or not the developers are putting in a serious effort despite the negativity threads like this can generate and that itself deserves props - plus I generally don't promote stuff that I think is a scam Tongue

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August 02, 2017, 10:01:26 AM
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and the fraud is going on!

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August 02, 2017, 10:58:48 AM
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Nobody is forced into this and nobody has paid for it. It is a scam if someone takes 0 from 0??? Maybe you should go find some hobby or use your time to find coins you think are no scam instead of wasting your time.

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August 02, 2017, 11:25:40 AM
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hey could you please also link to the developer's answers to your accusations? I'm sure there are some. link us to them please. we need the full picture!
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August 02, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
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hey could you please also link to the developer's answers to your accusations? I'm sure there are some. link us to them please. we need the full picture!
He did respond and eventually stopped, because these people were spamming the same messages over and over.

Right now nothing really matters anyways. Coins are being distributed exactly as announced. Whether or not they are spread among different addresses is completely irrelevant.

As long as Dev really pays out the stakes in round 41 and delivers a product, the coin will live, simple as that. Still several months until we can decide that though, and in the meantime we'll see whether or not he'll roll out DeepSend and the other stuff on the roadmap.

All scam accusations are completely baseless right now and look like a pathetic attempt to increase the bags of the fudders or to slow competition.
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August 02, 2017, 12:14:16 PM
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deepOnion not open ico selling, so nothing investor lost to money
and DeepOnion until not listing in exchanger, so why youre write is scam, nothing people lost money
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August 02, 2017, 12:29:57 PM
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Airdrops coins are heavily if not fully premined coins therefore scams.

And they're unfair since the devs and others can buy dozens of accounts to redeem coins.

even if the airdrops are sharedrops?  and the linking is public?

do you think Byteball is a scam?
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August 02, 2017, 12:53:17 PM
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It saddens me to see threads like this.  Our entitled culture drives threads like this.  How can this be a scam if no one has spent money on it?  The dev may end up with a pocket full of cash when it begins trading (and maybe he or she deserves it) but at this point what has been scammed?

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August 02, 2017, 01:43:24 PM
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It saddens me to see threads like this.  Our entitled culture drives threads like this.  How can this be a scam if no one has spent money on it?  The dev may end up with a pocket full of cash when it begins trading (and maybe he or she deserves it) but at this point what has been scammed?

it was human real nature my friend,
some people can be an angle,and some people can be an animal.without proper explanation he opened it,
and he's involved in this airdrop for the beginning,many people took it as an advantage because they believed in this project.
Dev didn't listing it into any exchanger yet because he wanted to open another distribution for facebook,twitter and other campaign and because of that he's staking his premine.
it's already expalined by him in the middle pages but everybody keep asking same question everyday and everytime.

what made it even more ridiculous,someone gave him a negative trust for baseless reason.
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and the fraud is going on!

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Dear DogeMajestic,

You spent a significant amount of time complaining on DeepOnion's main thread that the devs were not answering you. Yet, you do exactly the same thing and your allegations are still based on intepretation from a very early project.

IS that really a serious approach?

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August 02, 2017, 06:03:41 PM
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If writing posts on a forum where you're gonna be writing posts anyway is too much work, then you can also opt out and not participate. Best part about it all is that it's optional Tongue

yes if its optional is a good sign rather than forcing you to that what you don't want

 
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August 02, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
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Its free Coins, how can that be a Scam,

If you think its a Scam, Don't buy any just collect the free ones.

So simple.
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