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November 18, 2017, 03:22:58 PM
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Hi,

I was about to buy some deeponion and join the hype but then I check the project a little more deeply and now I could agree that there is something wrong in it.

The biggest red point for me is that they closed the source code of their wallet after version 1.2 to "protect" some copied technology. I'm not willing to install something like this on my computer.

It is weird that the initial fork is open source but any new development is closed.   I really wanted to review their code for deep vault but wasn't able to and connecting to the p2p network via TOR is nothing new.  I generally don't trust closed source projects with no external review or audit.

The main thing though was the bizarre obsessive nature of the airdrop bans.  Banning people for having a slight problem with their address, changing the rules constantly, etc.

Anyways, I still wish them the best of luck and hope it is not a scam as I don't like seeing people lose their coins that way.

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November 19, 2017, 09:30:01 PM
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I think the biggest problem i have with this coin is that it's rigged.
The dev made it so he could benefit from it financially.
The so called Airdrop crap touted is a means to co-opt people into allowing the dev to take for himself a ton of coins.
This pattern is old in crypto.
It's our responsibility to avoid stuff like this because it is immoral.
You can't justify it by saying the dev threw you chump change / peanuts at your feet while he was made a multi-millionaire.

The newer generation have no clue what a fair launched currency is... or i should say *was.

Did you know that there was a time long ago where people argued if DASH was launched fairly ?
Notice people talking about it now ?
No ? Why ?

Simple.. no one cares.
Strange eh ? Considering it's the no. 6 coin on theCap @ $418.00 per coin.
Can you possibly imagine how much money you made those guys that were buying them for a few cents each ?
..or premining / staking them for free.

They don't care how badly rigged a coin is.. just so long as they can be co-opted into supporting it for a minute itty bitty tiny little slice of pie.
Which amounts to a pyramid scheme scam of sorts.

Things changed in crypto and you noobs don't see it because you just got here.
..or are pretending to with sock puppet accounts.
There was a line we crossed over and everything changed.
The mass ICO days sealed the fate of crypto.
All it did was attract people who shouldn't be here and who have no interest in crypto.
Except to profit from it.. at any cost.

Completely agree... But beyond the dev fund, which is staking profit 24/7, mods are also making out with the power to determine airdrop payouts. They are effectively paying themselves 6 figure salaries alongside the dev profits. Not to mention, inflation from staking + airdrop/week is greater than the % payout average participant gets. They are losing value by participating, while increasing value for the central team by holding coins off of exchanges.

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November 20, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
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As long as we can make money , who cares it is a scam or not.

Well, for anyone with a conscience, it is rather important to remember that a scam means you make money off of some other poor unsuspecting sap. Some can live with that, I guess.

On the other hand, I've yet to see anything to really convince me that this is a scam token. Most people posting against it seem to have personal vendettas. I'll continue to support and wear the signature unless I see some actual damning evidence.

There is a large grass roots group of support behind this coin that goes far beyond the possibility of 'farmed' accounts. Only time will tell, but I'm still a fan and think it's got a lot of potential.


Closed source, windows only wallet, with no features that are not already in every other privacy coin.  

What makes you think there is any potential whatsoever here?

I have put together some numbers about last airdrop and the total tokens founder members are holding from the premine and you tell me if that is fair:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2383425

Beyond early adopters, take a look at mod team earnings. Last week, 14 mods received 1/3 of the airdrop. Not sure what it was this week. These are the same mods that determine effort multipliers and assign themselves 5x payouts.

Also, someone above mentioned only people with a vendetta go against DeepOnion. I participated in the airdrop under old rules for 2 weeks. Made about $2,000 for my 2 weeks and cashed out when I saw the new rules announced- since they were obviously created to make the mods rich and screw over everyone else. DeepOnion was good to me but I also recognize it is a blatant scam.

 I tried to promote another coin(DNR) in Deeponion.org community.. and you know.. they banned me for 2 days .. Whats this bullshit?.  They dont support other altcoin promotion ?   comeon.. Guys grow up..
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November 20, 2017, 04:50:31 PM
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I tried to promote another coin(DNR) in Deeponion.org community.. and you know.. they banned me for 2 days .. Whats this bullshit?.  They dont support other altcoin promotion ?   comeon.. Guys grow up..
They will delete any negative comment from their thread and ban you from forums. Deeponion is a cult of slaves and zombies, working for a scammer called Crypto Rainbow.

Everything I like is either illegal, immoral or fattening.
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November 21, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
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 I tried to promote another coin(DNR) in Deeponion.org community.. and you know.. they banned me for 2 days .. Whats this bullshit?.  They dont support other altcoin promotion ?   comeon.. Guys grow up..

1. Registering in a coins forum to promote another coin.
2. Wondering why you are getting banned
3. complain in scam thread about getting banned

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November 21, 2017, 08:24:06 PM
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I decided the other day to jump in on the airdrop before i saw this thread about staking the pre-mine, started reading through the laundry list of hyping requirements, and saw the one about having 100 Onions in your wallet to participate in any airdrop...forget about it.

all these coins suck, I am new to this but I have not seen 1 airdrop actually work yet...
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November 22, 2017, 01:19:43 AM
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The distribution method has changed a few weeks ago and now it resembles the distribution model of many other airdropped coins. So the "blackmail" strategy: if you dump your coins you won't receive more, doesn't work any more. It was a brilliant idea, even though with controversial implications. And the dev almost managed to fuck up the project completely with his paranoia. Now that it is more open, and the price is quite stable, the project has better chances of success.

The damage is done. The project is completely centralized, less than 300 people have all the control over the whole project.
That, among other things, is why I am out. Tried to tag along for a while but in the end you only get threatened to be kicked out of the Airdrop if you so much as consider mentioning that the mods receive way too much coins. Not to mention the massive censorship going on there.

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Yes, massive censorship and threats really suck and THIS is what actually has done all the damage. Still not correct to call it "scam" - it may become a scam in future, but it is not a real scam yet, no dumps from the devs on the public and now everybody is free to trade and the price does not collapse. Possibly, user base is growing. Cryptos is cryptos, everything can change and coins can get their own life. We'll see.

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November 22, 2017, 01:27:07 AM
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The newer generation have no clue what a fair launched currency is... or i should say *was.

Things changed in crypto and you noobs don't see it because you just got here.


Actually I got in cryptos in January 2014 and after some months I had left in disgust for some years after seeing that at least 90% of all the new coins where shit-scam-coins where the devs would dump their premine on the publich after a few weeks. So I would not praise the good old times too much...

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November 22, 2017, 01:35:15 AM
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Good to see this still being discussed in the least because that means we as a community are trying to figure the scams from the not scams. However I did notice also that the github was not updated and this also did worry

me a bit. Is this reason to worry or is this standard for a project of this size?

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November 22, 2017, 02:05:24 AM
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lol for now every coin that born it says to be scam , so where the legit one ? even ethereum is says as scam when it drop from their ATH to below $200 lol
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November 22, 2017, 04:05:07 AM
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Good to see this still being discussed in the least because that means we as a community are trying to figure the scams from the not scams. However I did notice also that the github was not updated and this also did worry

me a bit. Is this reason to worry or is this standard for a project of this size?

Having a closed source windows only wallet is absolutely *not* standard for a project like this. Unless it's a scam of course.
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November 22, 2017, 09:37:51 AM
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and only a few hundred people left in the inner circle, because they kicked all the other people time by time for suspiscious reason.
So dev, his friends and all their sockpuppets earn onions every time and some people without this insiderknowledge will buy the worthless coin.

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November 22, 2017, 10:12:04 AM
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and only a few hundred people left in the inner circle, because they kicked all the other people time by time for suspiscious reason.
So dev, his friends and all their sockpuppets earn onions every time and some people without this insiderknowledge will buy the worthless coin.

 i admit it they did it because of some reason,
but about scam i do not think so,
it was like a serious project,the dev and his team kicked most people in order to burn the price until the airdrop end.
which mean there'll be another major change in the future and they want to monopolize it all.
when that time comes and only some people left,
they will get a lot of profit with it because the majority people already dump their coin when they get kicked by them.
it's a shady activity but i admit it that they have a good progress in their project

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November 22, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
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if only 400 people are receiving the airdrop then surely this is a centralized currency? - the wealthy few - the trading volume is really low on the exchanges so no one is buying the tokens.

Looks like a major hold and dump at the end of the airdrop run. Prove me wrong deeponion please.

Any thoughts?
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November 22, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
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I decided the other day to jump in on the airdrop before i saw this thread about staking the pre-mine, started reading through the laundry list of hyping requirements, and saw the one about having 100 Onions in your wallet to participate in any airdrop...forget about it.

all these coins suck, I am new to this but I have not seen 1 airdrop actually work yet...

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November 22, 2017, 02:01:11 PM
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and only a few hundred people left in the inner circle, because they kicked all the other people time by time for suspiscious reason.
So dev, his friends and all their sockpuppets earn onions every time and some people without this insiderknowledge will buy the worthless coin.

 i admit it they did it because of some reason,
but about scam i do not think so,
it was like a serious project,the dev and his team kicked most people in order to burn the price until the airdrop end.
which mean there'll be another major change in the future and they want to monopolize it all.
when that time comes and only some people left,
they will get a lot of profit with it because the majority people already dump their coin when they get kicked by them.
it's a shady activity but i admit it that they have a good progress in their project
I also think so, although DeepOnion is unlikely to be a hoax, but DeepOnion developers may have a shame. Any disagreeable voice will be kicked out of their community, mercilessly, is simply a fanatic MLM community.

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November 22, 2017, 03:00:55 PM
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simply a fanatic MLM community.

Community of slaves and paid shills!
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November 22, 2017, 03:09:05 PM
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and only a few hundred people left in the inner circle, because they kicked all the other people time by time for suspiscious reason.
So dev, his friends and all their sockpuppets earn onions every time and some people without this insiderknowledge will buy the worthless coin.
Well, first of all it is not worthless since you have already a fluently working wallet and easily can make some transactions over the TOR network as well as using the DeepVault feature to validate documents. The reason why there is only a relatively small circle of Airdrop receivers is because the Airdrop is concepted to value the believers and supporters of this project and not some random people that only want to make a quick buck. That is also the reason why you get a founder status in the upcoming Votecentral if you participate in 21+ Airdrop rounds. The devs are passionate about building a strong community and in my opinion this makes them just more trustworthy. With their skills they could easily do a fake ICO and get a whole bunch of money if their only intention was to scam people.

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November 22, 2017, 09:43:50 PM
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and only a few hundred people left in the inner circle, because they kicked all the other people time by time for suspiscious reason.
So dev, his friends and all their sockpuppets earn onions every time and some people without this insiderknowledge will buy the worthless coin.
Well, first of all it is not worthless since you have already a fluently working wallet and easily can make some transactions over the TOR network as well as using the DeepVault feature to validate documents. The reason why there is only a relatively small circle of Airdrop receivers is because the Airdrop is concepted to value the believers and supporters of this project and not some random people that only want to make a quick buck. That is also the reason why you get a founder status in the upcoming Votecentral if you participate in 21+ Airdrop rounds. The devs are passionate about building a strong community and in my opinion this makes them just more trustworthy. With their skills they could easily do a fake ICO and get a whole bunch of money if their only intention was to scam people.
their skills?
They have no programmer skills, look in the github.
All was made from the community, not from dev.
They kicked also people, which were very active and there from the beginning.
The pattern is very clear, only dev and his friends are now there, very rare high rank accounts, but its not my problem.

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November 22, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
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Good to see this still being discussed in the least because that means we as a community are trying to figure the scams from the not scams. However I did notice also that the github was not updated and this also did worry

me a bit. Is this reason to worry or is this standard for a project of this size?

Having a closed source windows only wallet is absolutely *not* standard for a project like this. Unless it's a scam of course.

I wanted to invest a little bit, because I've heard a lot of things lately, but over the past weeks I've learned more and I'm sure I'm better off not risking it. A waste of time and money.

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