Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot!

[Serdj]

same problem, numerous confirmations and still no depo.

[Serdj]

ok finally received deposit in my account.

[emberbekas]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

But what if someone claimed faucet too much? will their account got muted by admin as usual(pd3)? I think limiting faucet is the best way to combat abusers.

Hope you'll find a good and best way to fight them(abusers) soon!

[adaseb]

Yeah no idea whats going on what the deposit. They are confirmed, a few blocks go by and nothing. Then immediately it appears.

[Xanidas]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

lifting the faucet restriction again so we will be expecting more users got muted because of faucet abuse or not? since there is no limit i think we will see some users doing faucet all of his free time

[mOgliE]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

[Johncena21]

Can amount wagered before faucet inceases be reduced? It took me almost 2 months to wager 1 btc while I see people doing it in hours.

[moooonu]

unlimited faucets that will be great. Really looking forward for it and hope i make some big amount in here.

[maxhor]

Can amount wagered before faucet inceases be reduced? It took me almost 2 months to wager 1 btc while I see people doing it in hours.

Wagered amount depend on bankroll and what is base bet amount, faucet will be start increasing after 10 BTC wagered, so nothing can be reduced maybe in future they can change the policy about faucet amount.

[Stunna]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

[seuntjie]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

How to crush faucet abuse in 3 easy steps:
Step 1: Remove faucet
Step 2: Ignore people complaining about there being no more faucet.
Step 3: Lose tons of wagered volume and players, but see no real difference in profits (maybe possibly even increase in profits).


People that play only on the faucet, even those just playing for fun and not trying to farm it, need to realize that there's a cost accompanied to processing and storing each bet (server,internet,db +storage space,etc costs). Even if you claim the faucet only 5 times a day and make a few 100 bets for each claim, you're costing PD money to play it. PDs losses because of faucet isn't just the occasional farmer that gets it to a point where he can withdraw, it's much much more. Many sites have minimum bets far above 1 Satoshi because it's more expensive to process and store a 1 satoshi bet than the site theoretically makes from the 1% edge on that bet. Now add to that the fact that the money the 1 sat bet is made with is PDs in the first place and the site makes NO money from that bet, win or lose, and the cost just compounds. Faucets are a much bigger expenses for casinos than most people realize. You're not entitled to a faucet The site's doing you a favour, at their expense.

I'm certain PD can take the money they spend on faucets and processing/storing those bets and allocate them to more useful things, like rewarding 3rd party developers (especially HUI and nahtnam), having more giveaways and competitions and possibly even paying some of their mods for their hard work.

But that's just my not so humble and probably extremely unpopular opinion, besides, what do I know of running a casino?

Also, ETA on chat API documentation?

[boosh]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

How to crush faucet abuse in 3 easy steps:
Step 1: Remove faucet
Step 2: Ignore people complaining about there being no more faucet.
Step 3: Lose tons of wagered volume and players, but see no real difference in profits (maybe possibly even increase in profits).


People that play only on the faucet, even those just playing for fun and not trying to farm it, need to realize that there's a cost accompanied to processing and storing each bet (server,internet,db +storage space,etc costs). Even if you claim the faucet only 5 times a day and make a few 100 bets for each claim, you're costing PD money to play it. PDs losses because of faucet isn't just the occasional farmer that gets it to a point where he can withdraw, it's much much more. Many sites have minimum bets far above 1 Satoshi because it's more expensive to process and store a 1 satoshi bet than the site theoretically makes from the 1% edge on that bet. Now add to that the fact that the money the 1 sat bet is made with is PDs in the first place and the site makes NO money from that bet, win or lose, and the cost just compounds. Faucets are a much bigger expenses for casinos than most people realize. You're not entitled to a faucet The site's doing you a favour, at their expense.

I'm certain PD can take the money they spend on faucets and processing/storing those bets and allocate them to more useful things, like rewarding 3rd party developers (especially HUI and nahtnam), having more giveaways and competitions and possibly even paying some of their mods for their hard work.

But that's just my not so humble and probably extremely unpopular opinion, besides, what do I know of running a casino?

Also, ETA on chat API documentation?

Seuntjie, all good points.

But im guessing they arent willing to give up their userbase and numbers do matter if they can constantly show largest total wagered volume.
Im siding with you they have been too generous allowing 0 wager bets + the exceptionally large faucet. They should reduce faucet or raise min. wager.

edit : im still amazed people mistake PD for faucet site

[seuntjie]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

How to crush faucet abuse in 3 easy steps:
Step 1: Remove faucet
Step 2: Ignore people complaining about there being no more faucet.
Step 3: Lose tons of wagered volume and players, but see no real difference in profits (maybe possibly even increase in profits).


People that play only on the faucet, even those just playing for fun and not trying to farm it, need to realize that there's a cost accompanied to processing and storing each bet (server,internet,db +storage space,etc costs). Even if you claim the faucet only 5 times a day and make a few 100 bets for each claim, you're costing PD money to play it. PDs losses because of faucet isn't just the occasional farmer that gets it to a point where he can withdraw, it's much much more. Many sites have minimum bets far above 1 Satoshi because it's more expensive to process and store a 1 satoshi bet than the site theoretically makes from the 1% edge on that bet. Now add to that the fact that the money the 1 sat bet is made with is PDs in the first place and the site makes NO money from that bet, win or lose, and the cost just compounds. Faucets are a much bigger expenses for casinos than most people realize. You're not entitled to a faucet The site's doing you a favour, at their expense.

I'm certain PD can take the money they spend on faucets and processing/storing those bets and allocate them to more useful things, like rewarding 3rd party developers (especially HUI and nahtnam), having more giveaways and competitions and possibly even paying some of their mods for their hard work.

But that's just my not so humble and probably extremely unpopular opinion, besides, what do I know of running a casino?

Also, ETA on chat API documentation?

Seuntjie, all good points.

But im guessing they arent willing to give up their userbase and numbers do matter if they can constantly show largest total wagered volume.
Im siding with you they have been too generous allowing 0 wager bets + the exceptionally large faucet. They should reduce faucet or raise min. wager.

edit : im still amazed people mistake PD for faucet site

True, but their wagered stat is skew. Look how much it dropped (https://dicesites.com/primedice) during the time they limiting the faucet. Whats the worth in having the largest daily wagered amount if 60% of the wagered bitcoin is your own? *they'd still be mostly #1 even if they lost around 60% of their daily wager

Edit: I'm mostly just sucking numbers out of my a.... thumb here. I have no insight into what PDs actual wagered vs faucet wagers etc are. Would be interesting to know though.

[boosh]

This shows that PrimeDice wagered volume is fake (or at least misleading) and they are not as popular or as profitable as they would have you believe.
As I've been saying for about a year and what other site operators have messaged me pointing out.

The wagered volume stat is basically them playing themselves by giving free money out to players to boost wagered volume which Primedice wins back anyway. This artificially inflates their wagered stats on sites like dicesites.com to make it seem they are the leading site by a huge margin when it's evident they are not.

So while they may have 700 players in the chat compared to competing sites 30-50, their wagered volume is only really 25% more than the competing sites. This shows that their site is mostly made up of faucet players and chatters rather than real gamblers.

This shows how there is no bad publicity even now while writing this post i keep PD thread on top of others.
And mass overcomes the quality by indos keep posting and complaining of not getting their mere satoshis.

[crytoboost]

Agreed, remove faucet and chat altogether! Also minimum bet 1000 sats 

I also think this is very good suggestion to remove faucet to run this site with more healthy way, at the moment it's full of faucet abusers, but I don't think minimum bet 1000 satoshi not be good at this stage.

[5leepyJoe]

Agreed, remove faucet and chat altogether! Also minimum bet 1000 sats 

I also think this is very good suggestion to remove faucet to run this site with more healthy way, at the moment it's full of faucet abusers, but I don't think minimum bet 1000 satoshi not be good at this stage.

The joke that was made flew right over you head, dragging its sweaty undercarriage all over your face. 

[mOgliE]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

Yeah but funds management isn't exactly good for you  xD
That's why it's profitable to earn money from faucet on pd.  Écluse if you win you can send it to your bank account then stack it and finally withdraw it.

[katerniko1]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

how about raising amount till faucet start increasing like to 20-50btc?
isnt like noone would farm with 200sats :?
regards.
-Katerniko1

[boosh]

Agreed, remove faucet and chat altogether! Also minimum bet 1000 sats 

you cant have your cake and eat it too, how much i wont despise the way things get handled at PD, they are a business.

[Erza-se.net]

Damn faucet is killing the site.
still fun tho.
happy gambling peeps