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[frankmb]

Well I played at primedice and betking, I lost somewhat all together 15 btc on primedice and 0.8 on betking.

The reason is simple, there is no minimum bet on PD which there is on betking, PD has many give aways where my bets and wagered amount counts and I increase my faucet while wagering, always comes in  handy for the weekends I'm broke and bored.

Although I have to say one of my dice accounts where I wagered the most is on safedice where there is no faucet and never anyone in chat. :p

But I believe the faucet is a good promotion on PD's side, and betking is great for high rollers who got more then 100 btc bets to waste in single bets.

[Stunna]

Holy elf blood! Using the API for betting and zero errors atm. Seems running a bot in vmware workstation was the problem all along. I showed windows the finger(middle) and moved onto a linux distro. Everything is running smooth like baby ass now. Woot! Sorry stunna, I take back about 3/10 of the critic that I gave you. 1 for this, 2nd for faucet being back to normal for us non-abusers-entertainment hogs, 3rd for private tipping.. Wait, role speed through API seems kinda fast as well, 4/10 then. Cheers  

Awesome, glad things are running smoothly for you finally!

44 btc profit per day and this is not scam ? hahahahha fucking joke.

Per day? Some days we lose money, in the long run you're looking at ~EV profits.

[Kiritsugu]

We are lifting the faucet restrictions we placed, you can now claim as many times as you'd like a day! We are looking at smarter solutions to combat abuse.

Good. Then we all agree that faucet limits are a rather brute force solution, I'm glad you lift it for the principle of it. But if abuses come back to a too high level, I bet you could also seize the whole account and profit of those who abused it.

A much simpler solution would be to forbid double account, without an account to tip, it gets much harder to farm the faucet IMHO

Agreed, ideally we'd like to crush this issue so we can increase the reward for legitimate users. We wouldn't restrict access to one account due to many of our users having secondary accounts such as "bank" accounts to manage funds.

How to crush faucet abuse in 3 easy steps:
Step 1: Remove faucet
Step 2: Ignore people complaining about there being no more faucet.
Step 3: Lose tons of wagered volume and players, but see no real difference in profits (maybe possibly even increase in profits).


People that play only on the faucet, even those just playing for fun and not trying to farm it, need to realize that there's a cost accompanied to processing and storing each bet (server,internet,db +storage space,etc costs). Even if you claim the faucet only 5 times a day and make a few 100 bets for each claim, you're costing PD money to play it. PDs losses because of faucet isn't just the occasional farmer that gets it to a point where he can withdraw, it's much much more. Many sites have minimum bets far above 1 Satoshi because it's more expensive to process and store a 1 satoshi bet than the site theoretically makes from the 1% edge on that bet. Now add to that the fact that the money the 1 sat bet is made with is PDs in the first place and the site makes NO money from that bet, win or lose, and the cost just compounds. Faucets are a much bigger expenses for casinos than most people realize. You're not entitled to a faucet The site's doing you a favour, at their expense.

I'm certain PD can take the money they spend on faucets and processing/storing those bets and allocate them to more useful things, like rewarding 3rd party developers (especially HUI and nahtnam), having more giveaways and competitions and possibly even paying some of their mods for their hard work.

But that's just my not so humble and probably extremely unpopular opinion, besides, what do I know of running a casino?

Also, ETA on chat API documentation?

Seuntjie, all good points.

But im guessing they arent willing to give up their userbase and numbers do matter if they can constantly show largest total wagered volume.
Im siding with you they have been too generous allowing 0 wager bets + the exceptionally large faucet. They should reduce faucet or raise min. wager.

edit : im still amazed people mistake PD for faucet site

This shows that PrimeDice wagered volume is fake (or at least misleading) and they are not as popular or as profitable as they would have you believe.
As I've been saying for about a year and what other site operators have messaged me pointing out.

The wagered volume stat is basically them playing themselves by giving free money out to players to boost wagered volume which Primedice wins back anyway. This artificially inflates their wagered stats on sites like dicesites.com to make it seem they are the leading site by a huge margin when it's evident they are not.

So while they may have 700 players in the chat compared to competing sites 30-50, their wagered volume is only really 25% more than the competing sites. This shows that their site is mostly made up of faucet players and chatters rather than real gamblers.

This is an extremely misguided argument given that you have absolutely no idea how much the faucet pays out a day and how much of that is actually wagered. The faucet keeps the site extremely active which makes highrollers more inclined to bet, actual faucet betting does not account for significant amount of our wagered and the faucet isn't paying out massive amounts a day either. We lifted the limit because we found that it was negatively impacting long time legitimate users not just abusers.

Primedice does more wagered than any of the other dice sites because of the strength of the brand, trust and platform. I know for a fact that your claims are completely wrong given our profits the past month/week/year despite faucet. Affiliate has been paying out more than faucet on a weekly basis.

The past 24h 0.3 coins were claimed from the faucet, and Primedice earned 44 coins in profit. This week we had 2-3 days of low volume which recovered prior to lifting the restrictions. The restriction was hardly restrictive anyways (50 claims a day). Doing this small giveaway allows us to stay competitive against investment websites, If we allowed investments I'm confident we'd do significantly more volume.

Also your claims come off as very hypocritical given these giveaways you've done:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1465356.0

Further, if we are debating dicing volume is it fair that you include the volume from your slot games/other casino games. To me that seems slightly misleading when you look at dicesites (which you mentioned), not that I even remotely care though. Our goal has never been to be loud and make a lot of waves, just to operate a fair and entertaining service.

Finally, if anything our volume is artificially low given that we restrict US,UK,Aus players and are blocked by the Russian firewall among others.

I couldn't help myself with this:

#REKT

(I love Stunna's responses to people here, they're fuckin' great.)

[shulio]

Yet Primedice gets a pass when they artificially inflate their wagered stats.

As long as they are not doing that on puposes and not do that by themselves then it couldnt be called as artificially inflating their atatus. I dont really see your point, how about you try to lift up those min bet restriction from your site and allow high amount of faucet and see if your site could have the same amount of their wagered

[BetKing.io]

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Further, if we are debating dicing volume is it fair that you include the volume from your slot games/other casino games. To me that seems slightly misleading when you look at dicesites (which you mentioned), not that I even remotely care though. Our goal has never been to be loud and make a lot of waves, just to operate a fair and entertaining service.

Finally, if anything our volume is artificially low given that we restrict US,UK,Aus players and are blocked by the Russian firewall among others.

You keep editing your post.

My volume you see on dicesites does not include any other game, only dice. The blackjack etc are all funded by me and so use a different bankroll.

We also block a few territories including the UK.

As long as they are not doing that on puposes and not do that by themselves then it couldnt be called as artificially inflating their atatus. I dont really see your point, how about you try to lift up those min bet restriction from your site and allow high amount of faucet and see if your site could have the same amount of their wagered

It is clearly done on purpose but obviously it doesn't matter to people.

I only recently changed the min bet. I had 1 satoshi bets and had the highest faucet in the industry. It got abused a lot by people and attracted the type of players to the chat in BetKing that real players would rather not have there so I removed it.
Also I don't get your point, BetKing has more wagered than all other dice sites combined if you exclude PrimeDice, we're doing great.

I'll stop posting here, Stunna obviously has too many die hard fans in here that can't have a discussion without just saying I'm jealous or butthurt or whatever other nonsense

[Grab]

Holy elf blood! Using the API for betting and zero errors atm. Seems running a bot in vmware workstation was the problem all along. I showed windows the finger(middle) and moved onto a linux distro. Everything is running smooth like baby ass now. Woot! Sorry stunna, I take back about 3/10 of the critic that I gave you. 1 for this, 2nd for faucet being back to normal for us non-abusers-entertainment hogs, 3rd for private tipping.. Wait, role speed through API seems kinda fast as well, 4/10 then. Cheers  

Awesome, glad things are running smoothly for you finally!

44 btc profit per day and this is not scam ? hahahahha fucking joke.

Per day? Some days we lose money, in the long run you're looking at ~EV profits.

When u use fake account like mr.vincenzo xD?
This site have impossible profit and i dont know even 1 guy who won on primedice. 90% of huge winner's are fake.

[hopenotlate]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

[Roboabhishek]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

Yes it's true that when pd4 was launched it had a lot of bugs.
The one on which I faced the bug was on Autobet.
I lost 0.21 BTC because autobet was running automatically even after stopping it.
I sent support a ticket,
They answered that they will check and after that they didn't replied.
That's the reason my trust on PD is reduced.

[maxhor]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

Yes it's true that when pd4 was launched it had a lot of bugs.
The one on which I faced the bug was on Autobet.
I lost 0.21 BTC because autobet was running automatically even after stopping it.
I sent support a ticket,
They answered that they will check and after that they didn't replied.
That's the reason my trust on PD is reduced.

Yes there is very horrible bug in auto-betting which is making players without money, PD4 is full of bugs and problem of instability as the ratio of downtime is more bigger than the previous version, we can say this it's bad launch ever from the team.

[Grab]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

Yes it's true that when pd4 was launched it had a lot of bugs.
The one on which I faced the bug was on Autobet.
I lost 0.21 BTC because autobet was running automatically even after stopping it.
I sent support a ticket,
They answered that they will check and after that they didn't replied.
That's the reason my trust on PD is reduced.

We shouldn't trust them anymore. Micro is fucking rude prick and liar. And new site ? this is fucking joke.
Tell me how it is possible that guy who have 18k btc profit, cant make normal site.
Some 10 years old kid made this site or what?

[MICRO]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying 

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

Yes it's true that when pd4 was launched it had a lot of bugs.
The one on which I faced the bug was on Autobet.
I lost 0.21 BTC because autobet was running automatically even after stopping it.
I sent support a ticket,
They answered that they will check and after that they didn't replied.
That's the reason my trust on PD is reduced.

We shouldn't trust them anymore. Micro is fucking rude prick and liar. And new site ? this is fucking joke.
Tell me how it is possible that guy who have 18k btc profit, cant make normal site.
Some 10 years old kid made this site or what?

Hey,

You don't need to trust us, that is what is great about provably fair.
Yes there was some issues at the start but most of it got ironed out. There should not be much downtime from now on.

As for the rude prick part... I don't remember that we had any interactions. But if you have any complaint on my responses or anything feel free to pm or email stunna or edward with that complaints.
I only work for primedice as a support staff.

[RariBest]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

Yes it's true that when pd4 was launched it had a lot of bugs.
The one on which I faced the bug was on Autobet.
I lost 0.21 BTC because autobet was running automatically even after stopping it.
I sent support a ticket,
They answered that they will check and after that they didn't replied.
That's the reason my trust on PD is reduced.

Autobet on Primedice had problem also on previous versions, it's time to fix it guys

[Roboabhishek]

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We shouldn't trust them anymore. Micro is fucking rude prick and liar. And new site ? this is fucking joke.
Tell me how it is possible that guy who have 18k btc profit, cant make normal site.
Some 10 years old kid made this site or what?

Hey,

You don't need to trust us, that is what is great about provably fair.
Yes there was some issues at the start but most of it got ironed out. There should not be much downtime from now on.

As for the rude prick part... I don't remember that we had any interactions. But if you have any complaint on my responses or anything feel free to pm or email stunna or edward with that complaints.
I only work for primedice as a support staff.

This is not about probably fair it's about the bug in Autobet function had in starting which didn't stopped after I pressed stop button,
Also I am not the only one some users also complaint about it.
But I am the one who suffered a loss of 0.21

Also I am not saying it's your fault Micro because you are  the support not the Dev.
Please don't think that I am pointing my finger towards you for this bug I am pointing it on pd4.

When your website is not programmed properly and you are releasing it then I am sure disaster will take place.
I have lost over 2 BTC on primedice but never complaint that primedice is scam or  some other kind of bullshit.
But in this case it's surely the fault of PD.

[electronicfactura]

This is not about probably fair it's about the bug in Autobet function had in starting which didn't stopped after I pressed stop button,
Also I am not the only one some users also complaint about it.
But I am the one who suffered a loss of 0.21

Also I am not saying it's your fault Micro because you are  the support not the Dev.
Please don't think that I am pointing my finger towards you for this bug I am pointing it on pd4.

When your website is not programmed properly and you are releasing it then I am sure disaster will take place.
I have lost over 2 BTC on primedice but never complaint that primedice is scam or  some other kind of bullshit.
But in this case it's surely the fault of PD.

In that case when PD4 was not programmed properly than why they create hype of it. Something amazing about to happen in bitcoin gambling even it has more better layout. But this kind of fucking bug could make it worse place for betting. It sounds terrible when anyone lost his amount cause of this kind of fault. They should need to fix that and make auto betting smoothly.

[hopenotlate]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

I'm quoting myself because it seems everyone misunderstood me and started talking about autobet problems.


In my previous statement , the bolded part in particular, I told my issue is kind of "visual" one: it refers to the way PD is displayed on my PC.

Again I have no problem with autobet: just it is a bit slower than previous PD3 version.

[maku]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

I'm quoting myself because it seems everyone misunderstood me and started talking about autobet problems.


In my previous statement , the bolded part in particular, I told my issue is kind of "visual" one: it refers to the way PD is displayed on my PC.

Again I have no problem with autobet: just it is a bit slower than previous PD3 version.

I cannot say that I encountered any glitch you depicted. For me visual side of PD4 is solid and I've never seen any graphical bug so far.
And can you share information about you machine and software? What browser you are using to access PD, are you using mobile or PC etc.?

[hopenotlate]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

I'm quoting myself because it seems everyone misunderstood me and started talking about autobet problems.


In my previous statement , the bolded part in particular, I told my issue is kind of "visual" one: it refers to the way PD is displayed on my PC.

Again I have no problem with autobet: just it is a bit slower than previous PD3 version.

I cannot say that I encountered any glitch you depicted. For me visual side of PD4 is solid and I've never seen any graphical bug so far.
And can you share information about you machine and software? What browser you are using to access PD, are you using mobile or PC etc.?

Browsing with Mozilla firefox on a windows XP operating system pentium IV processor and 3GB RAM.
It's a quite dated machine but it works fine for everything else I use it for.

[Grab]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

I'm quoting myself because it seems everyone misunderstood me and started talking about autobet problems.


In my previous statement , the bolded part in particular, I told my issue is kind of "visual" one: it refers to the way PD is displayed on my PC.

Again I have no problem with autobet: just it is a bit slower than previous PD3 version.

I cannot say that I encountered any glitch you depicted. For me visual side of PD4 is solid and I've never seen any graphical bug so far.
And can you share information about you machine and software? What browser you are using to access PD, are you using mobile or PC etc.?

Browsing with Mozilla firefox on a windows XP operating system pentium IV processor and 3GB RAM.
It's a quite dated machine but it works fine for everything else I use it for.

Maybe try to use other browser(i use chrome and never had any problem)

[Roboabhishek]

After the new PD4 launch am experiencing lot of display problems that turn my gaming experience annoying  

Betting, either manual or auto, it's OK but site is constantly glitching (every few seconds) : monitor turns all grey (same kind of grey as the upper horizontal bar where deposit withdraw faucet buttons are located) for a second or so and then come back to normal.

This glitch (dunno if it's the correct term to use to describe this "bug") doesn't affect autobetting proper run.

Is it only me or anyone else s having same problems?

I'm quoting myself because it seems everyone misunderstood me and started talking about autobet problems.


In my previous statement , the bolded part in particular, I told my issue is kind of "visual" one: it refers to the way PD is displayed on my PC.

Again I have no problem with autobet: just it is a bit slower than previous PD3 version.

I cannot say that I encountered any glitch you depicted. For me visual side of PD4 is solid and I've never seen any graphical bug so far.
And can you share information about you machine and software? What browser you are using to access PD, are you using mobile or PC etc.?

What do you think ?
Does mobile version of the primedice has auto betting in it ?
Please read what I have written then answer.
I have written that in starting when pd4 was released it had an autobet bug which didn't stopped after pressing stop button.
On the other hand the browser which I was using is Google Crome ( Updated ) /

[fulgdenea]

I just checked auto-betting session in Firefox and it worked on my side smoothly without such a issue, press button is also working as I repeated this more than 3 times after a interval for some time, only official person can explain more about this issue but personally I don't had this during my betting session.