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August 18, 2016, 06:01:52 PM |
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PD down for me
can't login, Error "Something in the Server Broke"
There was a notification on the site that we will have quick update. Should not take to long. 30 minutes later... This downtime will take a bit more time than we expected.
Sorry for the inconvenience guys.
6 hours later still nothing ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) PD language: A bit more time = come back tomorrow. We all know support is slow as hell.
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Eremitos
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August 18, 2016, 06:15:58 PM |
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Implementing new better rigging system? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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MICRO
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August 18, 2016, 06:25:22 PM |
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So happy PD is taking a break, I'm finally getting some work done ..
I am not happy, when pd is down i don't have any work to get done ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Hopefully it wont take much longer before we are back up and running.
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trafficolaa
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August 18, 2016, 06:26:12 PM |
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Implementing new better rigging system? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) So that is nothing more than a loser taught ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I would not do agree with you PD could manipulate the outcomes, we all know that it has provably fair system and we can easily verify the outcomes, so this downtime is due to some technical reasons and don't be get worried about this.
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5leepyJoe
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August 18, 2016, 06:41:37 PM |
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Implementing new better rigging system? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The only rigging is the piece of string trying to hold up the peanut between your ears mate. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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Eremitos
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August 18, 2016, 06:46:44 PM |
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The only rigging is the piece of string trying to hold up the peanut between your ears mate. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) You wouldn't notice a sarcasm even if it kicked you in the ass, would you?
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August 18, 2016, 06:52:22 PM |
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So that is nothing more than a loser taught ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I would not do agree with you PD could manipulate the outcomes, we all know that it has provably fair system and we can easily verify the outcomes, so this downtime is due to some technical reasons and don't be get worried about this. I'm not accusing PD of anything, it was a joke. I'm sure they're honest. But to all blind fans of "provably fair" I can only say that - until it's open-source code, so anyone can review it, they can do whatever they want with rolls outcomes. I'm not saying they do, but in theory they could and your magic spell called "provably fair" means shit. Shortly saying - I believe in PD, I don't believe in provably fair.
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5leepyJoe
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August 18, 2016, 06:58:13 PM |
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The only rigging is the piece of string trying to hold up the peanut between your ears mate. ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) You wouldn't notice a sarcasm even if it kicked you in the ass, would you? butt-hurt much boy-o ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 18, 2016, 08:38:58 PM |
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is it still down?
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zzaza
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August 18, 2016, 10:00:46 PM |
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is it still down?
Yeah, it is still down ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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RHavar
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August 18, 2016, 10:16:06 PM |
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But to all blind fans of "provably fair" I can only say that - until it's open-source code, so anyone can review it, they can do whatever they want with rolls outcomes.
Being open source wouldn't help at all. For one, how could you verify they're using the published source and not with a rigged-version patch? On the other hand provably fair is robust if you follow these steps: 1) Write down the server-seed hash 2) Pick a new unpredictable seed, write that down too ...play while remembering how you played (e.g. prediction, direction and amounts) 3) Reveal the server seed. Make sure when hashed it is what was on step 1, and the client seed is unchanged. Now use a verification script (like the one on dicesites.com) to make sure the outcomes are exactly the same. If the provably fair checks out, and your deposits and withdrawals were processed you can be 100% sure that you were not cheated.
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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August 18, 2016, 11:25:12 PM |
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looks like a long downtime.. any news so far?
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August 18, 2016, 11:35:50 PM |
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But to all blind fans of "provably fair" I can only say that - until it's open-source code, so anyone can review it, they can do whatever they want with rolls outcomes.
Being open source wouldn't help at all. For one, how could you verify they're using the published source and not with a rigged-version patch? On the other hand provably fair is robust if you follow these steps: 1) Write down the server-seed hash 2) Pick a new unpredictable seed, write that down too ...play while remembering how you played (e.g. prediction, direction and amounts) 3) Reveal the server seed. Make sure when hashed it is what was on step 1, and the client seed is unchanged. Now use a verification script (like the one on dicesites.com) to make sure the outcomes are exactly the same. If the provably fair checks out, and your deposits and withdrawals were processed you can be 100% sure that you were not cheated. @Stunna, @MICRO Maybe if there were some way to keep a log of all your rolls on a given seed pair... Maybe that might make it a little more salient for users. That's the main problem I face when I want to check my rolls. All I have is the last 30 bets. When I am in the middle of a seed pair that is rolling well for the most part but I hit a losing streak that puts a dent in my balance I may want to check it, but also, I may not want to change my seed yet. At that time I can either write down my roll number and nonce and client seed until I decide to change my seed pair or just say screw it and move on. I usually just move on wishing it were a little more user friendly. I understand that's my decision so I don't have any complaints. I will say, though, that for many new users a complete ledger of all rolls for a given seed pair would put a lot of arguments to rest, and possibly spare PD admins a lot of grief... given the daily accusations they face. I mean, you gotta imagine being faced with the same accusations on an ongoing basis. It would make the most stoic of people tend to be calloused with a little righteous indignation. I think the admins handle themselves quite nicely considering some of the people on the forums.... ... Maybe Stunna could have devs implement a better log of all the rolls? I suppose the roll log could change to a clean slate upon setting a new seed pair to save memory, and the user could then be given an option to print the roll log associated with the last seed pair to screen or save as a file. Maybe there could be a way to save the roll log on the players side? ...All rolls would have to be mathematically correct based on the available balance when the seed pair was changed, so even the most ambitious of naysayers could calculate away until the sun comes up. So maybe the roll log could include a timestamp on confirmed incoming deposits and outgoing tips. We're talking about some iron clad stuff here:) ...maybe it doesn't need to be so complicated, IDK, I'm just throwing out ideas. @Stunna, what do you think? Would an of that be feasible? Personally, I think this site has done a lot to prove themselves as being forthcoming in regards to honesty and transparency and being provably fair. Lol, maybe it would give MICRO something to do during the downtime;)
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August 18, 2016, 11:42:11 PM |
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But to all blind fans of "provably fair" I can only say that - until it's open-source code, so anyone can review it, they can do whatever they want with rolls outcomes.
Being open source wouldn't help at all. For one, how could you verify they're using the published source and not with a rigged-version patch? On the other hand provably fair is robust if you follow these steps: 1) Write down the server-seed hash 2) Pick a new unpredictable seed, write that down too ...play while remembering how you played (e.g. prediction, direction and amounts) 3) Reveal the server seed. Make sure when hashed it is what was on step 1, and the client seed is unchanged. Now use a verification script (like the one on dicesites.com) to make sure the outcomes are exactly the same. If the provably fair checks out, and your deposits and withdrawals were processed you can be 100% sure that you were not cheated. @Stunna, @MICRO Maybe if there were some way to keep a log of all your rolls on a given seed pair... Maybe that might make it a little more salient for users. That's the main problem I face when I want to check my rolls. All I have is the last 30 bets. When I am in the middle of a seed pair that is rolling well for the most part but I hit a losing streak that puts a dent in my balance I may want to check it, but also, I may not want to change my seed yet. At that time I can either write down my roll number and nonce and client seed until I decide to change my seed pair or just say screw it and move on. I usually just move on wishing it were a little more user friendly. I understand that's my decision so I don't have any complaints. I will say, though, that for many new users a complete ledger of all rolls for a given seed pair would put a lot of arguments to rest, and possibly spare PD admins a lot of grief... given the daily accusations they face. I mean, you gotta imagine being faced with the same accusations on an ongoing basis. It would make the most stoic of people tend to be calloused with a little righteous indignation. I think the admins handle themselves quite nicely considering some of the people on the forums.... ... Maybe Stunna could have devs implement a better log of all the rolls? I suppose the roll log could change to a clean slate upon setting a new seed pair to save memory, and the user could then be given an option to print the roll log associated with the last seed pair to screen or save as a file. Maybe there could be a way to save the roll log on the players side? ...All rolls would have to be mathematically correct based on the available balance when the seed pair was changed, so even the most ambitious of naysayers could calculate away until the sun comes up. So maybe the roll log could include a timestamp on confirmed incoming deposits and outgoing tips. We're talking about some iron clad stuff here:) ...maybe it doesn't need to be so complicated, IDK, I'm just throwing out ideas. @Stunna, what do you think? Would an of that be feasible? Personally, I think this site has done a lot to prove themselves as being forthcoming in regards to honesty and transparency and being provably fair. Lol, maybe it would give MICRO something to do during the downtime;) I agree that they should have a log of all rolls, as im sure they already do just like chat. It would be a nice upgrade and tool for going back on old bets, seeing big bets/big wins, and what ever other reason someone might want to look back on a bet. There really isn't no apparent reason stopping them from doing it, I hope they end up doing this one day.
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August 18, 2016, 11:51:53 PM |
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looks like a long downtime.. any news so far?
Apart from - 'it is nothing serious and normal downtime' I guess there is nothing more to say. I remember PD was down in similar fashion one or two weeks ago. A tad bit much of a downtime for the most popular cryptocurrency game. I am not sure what caused that, but maybe it is time to move to another hosting service or something?
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August 18, 2016, 11:54:49 PM |
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But to all blind fans of "provably fair" I can only say that - until it's open-source code, so anyone can review it, they can do whatever they want with rolls outcomes.
Being open source wouldn't help at all. For one, how could you verify they're using the published source and not with a rigged-version patch? On the other hand provably fair is robust if you follow these steps: 1) Write down the server-seed hash 2) Pick a new unpredictable seed, write that down too ...play while remembering how you played (e.g. prediction, direction and amounts) 3) Reveal the server seed. Make sure when hashed it is what was on step 1, and the client seed is unchanged. Now use a verification script (like the one on dicesites.com) to make sure the outcomes are exactly the same. If the provably fair checks out, and your deposits and withdrawals were processed you can be 100% sure that you were not cheated. @Stunna, @MICRO Maybe if there were some way to keep a log of all your rolls on a given seed pair... Maybe that might make it a little more salient for users. That's the main problem I face when I want to check my rolls. All I have is the last 30 bets. When I am in the middle of a seed pair that is rolling well for the most part but I hit a losing streak that puts a dent in my balance I may want to check it, but also, I may not want to change my seed yet. At that time I can either write down my roll number and nonce and client seed until I decide to change my seed pair or just say screw it and move on. I usually just move on wishing it were a little more user friendly. I understand that's my decision so I don't have any complaints. I will say, though, that for many new users a complete ledger of all rolls for a given seed pair would put a lot of arguments to rest, and possibly spare PD admins a lot of grief... given the daily accusations they face. I mean, you gotta imagine being faced with the same accusations on an ongoing basis. It would make the most stoic of people tend to be calloused with a little righteous indignation. I think the admins handle themselves quite nicely considering some of the people on the forums.... ... Maybe Stunna could have devs implement a better log of all the rolls? I suppose the roll log could change to a clean slate upon setting a new seed pair to save memory, and the user could then be given an option to print the roll log associated with the last seed pair to screen or save as a file. Maybe there could be a way to save the roll log on the players side? ...All rolls would have to be mathematically correct based on the available balance when the seed pair was changed, so even the most ambitious of naysayers could calculate away until the sun comes up. So maybe the roll log could include a timestamp on confirmed incoming deposits and outgoing tips. We're talking about some iron clad stuff here:) ...maybe it doesn't need to be so complicated, IDK, I'm just throwing out ideas. @Stunna, what do you think? Would an of that be feasible? Personally, I think this site has done a lot to prove themselves as being forthcoming in regards to honesty and transparency and being provably fair. Lol, maybe it would give MICRO something to do during the downtime;) I agree that they should have a log of all rolls, as im sure they already do just like chat. It would be a nice upgrade and tool for going back on old bets, seeing big bets/big wins, and what ever other reason someone might want to look back on a bet. There really isn't no apparent reason stopping them from doing it, I hope they end up doing this one day. If there were issue regarding server speed and lag time I suppose a widget could be made that would keep everything on the client side. I'm no programmer so don't brow beat me if I don't know what I'm talking about. I just imagine it could be much like Seuntjie bot and not running on primedice's side.
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August 19, 2016, 12:01:30 AM |
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August 19, 2016, 12:20:35 AM |
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first you have to select primedice in menu... for entering pd with seuntjiebot you have to type username and pw only.. and 2fa if its enabled..
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August 19, 2016, 12:27:47 AM |
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first you have to select primedice in menu... for entering pd with seuntjiebot you have to type username and pw only.. and 2fa if its enabled.. Ummm I only have to use username, API key, and 2fA to login to bot... not password. WHAT THE F PD. Fix your shit!
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August 19, 2016, 12:29:32 AM |
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first you have to select primedice in menu... for entering pd with seuntjiebot you have to type username and pw only.. and 2fa if its enabled.. Ummm I only have to use username, API key, and 2fA to login to bot... not password. WHAT THE F PD. Fix your shit! It could also possibly be a problem on Seuntjie's side
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