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October 31, 2018, 04:34:59 AM
Last edit: October 31, 2018, 04:56:06 AM by Stunna
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Halloween challenge (0.1BTC in prizes): https://forum.primedice.com/topic/34306-%F0%9F%8F%86-01-btc-chills-and-thrills-challenge/  

Happy Halloween! Our fifth one! Hope everyone gets some treats Smiley


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October 31, 2018, 05:30:48 AM
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@ Stunna

Your statements clearly confirm that your sole intent is to blatant lie and mislead the bitcointalk community to illegally collect as much Bitcoins as possible!

I respond to all my Pm's. Even game-protect could message me and ask for answers to these questions. I think when I've sent him messages in the past he just doesn't reply and just posts more spam on the thread.
I sent the following pms to you and Edward and never received a response!

https://imgur.com/9kLe0eN

At the current stage it anyway does not matter what lies or nonsense you state! Your fraud scheme is fully crushed and Game Protect already has proof of how Primedice / Stake has taken over 300 Bitcoins illegally and in breach of AML / KYC laws and they are enforceable! Wink

More info:

Primedice scam get all your losses back for the past 5 years!

Stake scam get all your losses back for the past 5 years!


Do you have any proof rather than your site where you try to take money from both Primedice and Stake based on your arguments?
Game Protect has a ton of info, documents and proof. Wink


Everyone inside Casino's Community are well aware about your blackmail trying to get free money.
If Game Protect blackmailed any operator of the Casino's Community (as you defamatory claim) why did no one open a Scam Accusation like it is very common here on bitcointalk?

No, enforcing an illegally taken Bitcoin loot from international structured online casino fraud scheme is not "free money", as it requires thousands of hours investigation and proof collection!

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October 31, 2018, 07:35:04 AM
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@ Stunna

Your statements clearly confirm that your sole intent is to blatant lie and mislead the bitcointalk community to illegally collect as much Bitcoins as possible!

I respond to all my Pm's. Even game-protect could message me and ask for answers to these questions. I think when I've sent him messages in the past he just doesn't reply and just posts more spam on the thread.
I sent the following pms to you and Edward and never received a response!

https://imgur.com/9kLe0eN

At the current stage it anyway does not matter what lies or nonsense you state! Your fraud scheme is fully crushed and Game Protect already has proof of how Primedice / Stake has taken over 300 Bitcoins illegally and in breach of AML / KYC laws and they are enforceable! Wink

More info:

Primedice scam get all your losses back for the past 5 years!

Stake scam get all your losses back for the past 5 years!


Do you have any proof rather than your site where you try to take money from both Primedice and Stake based on your arguments?
Game Protect has a ton of info, documents and proof. Wink


Everyone inside Casino's Community are well aware about your blackmail trying to get free money.
If Game Protect blackmailed any operator of the Casino's Community (as you defamatory claim) why did no one open a Scam Accusation like it is very common here on bitcointalk?

No, enforcing an illegally taken Bitcoin loot from international structured online casino fraud scheme is not "free money", as it requires thousands of hours investigation and proof collection!

Please add eachother to ignore. Let's try and keep this thread on-topic.

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Last edit: October 31, 2018, 10:40:55 PM by Sandpaper44
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Ran into a issue today that was funny at first but became more alarming as I got responses from support.

I was baited into a discussion about accounts in chat and it followed the line about banks and alt accounts not allowed in chat. Short story is it ended up with alt accounts being created by the person I was in discussion with and one very similar to the one I was using.

Me: "Thisguybust"
Alt" "Thisguyfucks"

Now for anyone that followed the chat from the start, they would be able to see that the two where clearly different individuals. Any one that would go to the start could tell difference so lets just leave that snip short for I can get long winded.

The end of the saga was me stating:

Thisguybust(Me) "the mentality to sit up in chat and troll is just beyond me"

Support: "@Thisguybust muted...as I promised, I will keep muting you"

Will use my name but will not drop the individuals involved because its not the issue.

I find out that I am unable to use support messenger well chat banned. So I start to write a post here, till I realize that the troll had been getting chat banned but it was not effecting his main. So I log into my main which is Sandpaper44 and try messenger. It does not work, so that must cross accounts.
I enter chat and try to get help to which all I receive is warnings to drop it and odd info like they connect these accounts to me. Not through IP but some how! This is a redflag because it indicates the troll is hacked me or Support is making up a story that suits the story. Either way a normal person should be a bit shocked.
Can understand supports take, troll w/e, do not waste time on him.
So if I am innocent and I am, then this means PD has a problem either with support or with a hacker.
My balance never changed during that time and I was still actively rolling.

Suggestions:

- Create a email box on bottom for times when messenger is not working, most people do not know about forum and finding support email there.

- Have the messenger open to active players that are facing their first chat ban.

- Do not have support just put a person on ignore under assumptions they where wrong


I walk away from this thinking if I can have such a drama over a small issue like this, what awaits me if I ever do have a serious issue! I know this is small potatoes to most and its more feedback then anything.

Would really like to know that due diligence is taken in the future for a lot of new players can run into the trolls and if I can fall victim with help of support, I think it will make people weary to chat or play.

Still pissed and still debating if I want to continue knowing that I have unknown issues with the site.
But food for thought on how to make a few changes. Most likely just stay out of chat.

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Edit:

I just asked support messenger when my account would be unmuted and had the following chat.
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when is this account unmuted?
Hello.
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What is your username?
Thisguybust
I want this account reinstated before I deposit is the reason I would like to know
how come this works now it did not earlier. Maybe its a issue on my end. Messenger I mean.
there goes my feedback lol
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You are muted for:
having multiple accounts and using them all in the chat
for using offensive usernames with which you directly offended a player
So you claimed, I understand that part. I am asking when it will be unmuted?
Was not me but we can go back and forward all day about that. I think you mistook me for thisguyfucks
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The mute is permanent.
You should go back and confirm it was me. Thats a bit crazy
So lint is able to troll and I get muted for saying people should not troll. Ok thats fair.
So are you telling me to leave PD?
Confusing my other account can talk, see no difference.
Other thing I do not understand is why Lint was never banned for trolling me.
I guess you are back to ignoring me. Fair enough
Glad I asked before I made another deposit lol
Couldn't send
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Was not going to use her name but her manner of dealing with me is very off course.
This is the same mod that chat banned me to start the issue off and I was just asking for my account to be released and was going to drop this issue.
She did not answer my questions other than this perma ban, so am I not allowed to play on this site now?
Seems like if I attempt to play on my other account I could be getting angled in a way that I could run up some bitcoin(In my dreams) and then find out I can not withdraw from my account.
Whole thing is super bizarre because the issue that set the whole troll off was squashed as soon as it started. Seuntje(Sp.) confirmed that you could play on different accounts as long as you did not use them at the same time. So it was a dead issue but the troll kept going and made it appear as if I was attacking him.
But he was speaking in hindi, I can not speak that language one lick. Barely speak my own language English.

So here are thoughts in my head:

- If I am banned why not the troll, he is active on multiple accounts as I type this. )Lint58 I believe.
- He admitted to trolling me and I still got banned and accused of something he obviously stated in chat!
- Why would she not discuss this obvious issue fairly with me in any format?
- Why was she so defensive and nit picking my words?
- Am I banned from play here?
 
You can even see she closes the discussion on me without answering my queries. This is the same mod that told me I must have sent a transaction to the wrong address and stalled me for days till Stunna jumped on the issue and solved it.
Will link that post so its clear I am not some troll, I just expect to be dealt with fairly.

Sorry about late edit got crazy issues with my waterline being fixed and its looking costly.
So here is my dealings with support that gave me the run around for about 5 days till I posted here and it was cleared up within hours:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg34311013#msg34311013
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October 31, 2018, 10:51:32 PM
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@ Stunna

Your statements clearly confirm that your sole intent is to blatant lie and mislead the bitcointalk community to illegally collect as much Bitcoins as possible!

I respond to all my Pm's. Even game-protect could message me and ask for answers to these questions. I think when I've sent him messages in the past he just doesn't reply and just posts more spam on the thread.
I sent the following pms to you and Edward and never received a response!

https://imgur.com/9kLe0eN

At the current stage it anyway does not matter what lies or nonsense you state! Your fraud scheme is fully crushed and Game Protect already has proof of how Primedice / Stake has taken over 300 Bitcoins illegally and in breach of AML / KYC laws and they are enforceable! Wink

More info:

Primedice scam get all your losses back for the past 5 years!

Stake scam get all your losses back for the past 5 years!


Do you have any proof rather than your site where you try to take money from both Primedice and Stake based on your arguments?
Game Protect has a ton of info, documents and proof. Wink


Everyone inside Casino's Community are well aware about your blackmail trying to get free money.
If Game Protect blackmailed any operator of the Casino's Community (as you defamatory claim) why did no one open a Scam Accusation like it is very common here on bitcointalk?

No, enforcing an illegally taken Bitcoin loot from international structured online casino fraud scheme is not "free money", as it requires thousands of hours investigation and proof collection!

Please add eachother to ignore. Let's try and keep this thread on-topic.
My questions who received the announced 34 BTC donation and if you have to follow AML / KYC laws and the Primedice and Stake loss back option are fully on-topic. Smiley

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October 31, 2018, 11:35:13 PM
Last edit: November 01, 2018, 07:38:22 AM by Radiante
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Suggestions:

- Create a email box on bottom for times when messenger is not working, most people do not know about forum and finding support email there.

- Have the messenger open to active players that are facing their first chat ban.

- Do not have support just put a person on ignore under assumptions they where wrong


About sugestions:
A) There is a link, but it is in the bottom of the forum: https://forum.primedice.com/contact/
B) It is open even for non registered players.
C) I didn't understand this one. I'm sure it was a particular case where the support confused your name with the troll name (as you said, it was one letter, in a long name).

About Katarina:
She said she didn't banned you, so the info she has is the one in the log of players. And she has to ask to other mods what happened. Give her time. She is a sweetie, helped me to configure the Seuntjie's Bot.

So, at the end, was it all fixed then?

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Last edit: November 01, 2018, 02:08:07 AM by Sandpaper44
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I do not see anything changing unless I get chat logs, which I am working on slowly but I am not holding my breathe.
Its crazy because I was already having a crap day and then I get perma chat banned for something that was not me and I was never given a second thought after. When I say crap I mean I just ate 15k dollars in waterline work and went to PD to relax.

Suggestion C was just in the style of communication. I attempted pm/msg and received crickets. I tried messenger and it did not work at the time. So when it did work I tried it and we got the chat log where she just disconnects me. When I pleaded my case in chat I was told to cool it or both my accounts with be perma banned.

When I get copies of the chat it will pretty clear because I do not speak Hindi and the names Lint58 was dreaming up is a style people active in chat would recognize as him and not me. Lets break down something about this issue, I was rolling and its not a script type of roll as it was bouncing all over the place during this chat. Lint58 had 2 rolls over a 10 minute span, he would chat right after his alts to make it appear like they where different repeatedly. My only issue was he picked a name similar to mine to use against me to make it appear like I was up to something. My roll history and the chat logs should clear the issue to anyone that is a regular in chat.

About suggestion A.. I do state that it is not always clear that there is forum to people joining the site unless they catch that in chat or in a email.

About Katarina I have had interesting discussions and recall when she started. Her manner was different than usual on this aspect and I do agree. But I can only judge some one in how they treat you when you are down and that moment spoke volumes to her character for me. No lose to her but I have lost a account and most likely flagged for a easy exit the next time as well.

I know the person behind this account Radiante, I just forget who it is at the moment. It will come to me.


Addon:

Just attempted to send from chat banned account to my main and found out funds can not be sent when chat banned. So just another headache.
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November 01, 2018, 07:41:05 AM
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So it is not fixed yet?
Retrieving the chat log is not your job man, just use the link I provided you to contact Primedice: https://forum.primedice.com/contact/
Meanwhile, just cashout to you wallet. And when they solve your problem and unban your account, deposit again and play.


Just attempted to send from chat banned account to my main and found out funds can not be sent when chat banned. So just another headache.

but can you cash out to you wallet?


I know the person behind this account Radiante, I just forget who it is at the moment. It will come to me.

Yes, I'm Xylber, the spanish translator of Primedice.

I talked about it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072589.msg42259244#msg42259244

-------------------------BTW, I'm Xylber, my main bitcointalk account is locked, already talked to admins
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November 01, 2018, 10:43:41 AM
Last edit: November 01, 2018, 11:10:43 AM by hui
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(lengthy essay)

so here is my offer: I can either answer here, in public, which would likely include some information you won't like to see or we can talk about it via pm - just let me know Smiley

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Last edit: November 01, 2018, 08:12:06 PM by Sandpaper44
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@HUI

I need to get my account out of noob status to be able to contact you but I think that is only a few more posts if I am correct. (15 posts, if its 30 oh well)
Please just give me this issue in pm and I will either contact you on PD or get this account up to snuff to be able to banter.
Appreciate you looking into this matter on my behalf as it has been a pain. Thanks.

Add: When I tried to pm you I got that 360 timeout between posts when I attempted to respond here. So thats that if you saw me here not responding.

@Radiante

I believe I can transfer out of my wallet, its one of those things where I thought and contacted support before I thought it out. Jelena said she would have to talk to Katarina about it. Was more curious at that point than anything and ended up busting that amount anyways. Will just make sure not to send to that account in the future.
Maybe its the whole stake launch that I got familiar with the name Radiante, thanks for the info.

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Update:

Pretty much the same story line that I have been fed from the start but this time that I was using a unnerving amount of accounts.
So that there should make it obvious that it is lint but they keep painting me as the guy creating these accounts. Thats beyond frustrating and asking me to apologize was the icing on the cake. Lets flash back, Katarina perma banned me which is not done lightly and then refuses to talk in kills all communication. Does this sound like a reasonable way to conduct business? I liked her when she first joined the team but her over reaction and continued support from PD staff has shown me that I would be stupid to continue playing there.

To explain why I have two accounts currently. I will explain currently in a second... I switched from Sandpaper to get away from the potential issue of being trolled for what happened in this thread with me and EnFoR3Er(Sp.), as he makes some statements that show he is connected to the site beyond being a player. So not knowing who I have pissed off I create Thisguybust in hopes of getting that behind me but I get this instead.
I used to use Primedice as a middleman site to transfer funds back in the day and would create and drop accounts as it suited. This would be why I have a unnerving amount of accounts and it was more me thinking I was creating another step for any snoops. Stupid right!

Some people can live with stuff like that over their heads but I just rather not deal with a added unknown. Especially knowing I am flagged in a way that could cost me coins.

Lets be clear some people are good and we are all human and have bad days, own it and move on. If I had trolled I would not be writing this stupid response and would have made nice with Katarina.  

Any good dice sites? Shoot me a pm Smiley
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Last edit: November 01, 2018, 07:30:45 PM by hui
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[...] Please just give me this issue in pm and I will either contact you on PD or get this account up to snuff to be able to banter. [...]

thank you for the talk and reasonable reaction - whatever consequences you draw I wish you the best!

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Hello.

I made my reason for muting you transparent: you created multiple accounts with very offensive usernames directed to one specific user. That is considered an offensive behavior and thus the mute.
Why perm mute? Because you cannot change usernames and we cannot allow you to use them on the chat. Furthermore, you cannot use alt accounts in the chat, especially when you get muted on one of them.
If you cannot reach us out through Live Support chat, you can always email us on support@primedice.com. We will reply as soon as possible.

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Sandpaper, what you stated here is not what we were talking about and you know it (and can reread it anytime). Fact is that you (and others) misbehaved in chat and broke rules by talking on multiple accounts in the chat (and other things I prefer not to bring on the table unless you want me to).

So you ended up wasting my (and other peoples) time by behaving differently here in public and turning my words into things I didn't say. I respect privacy a lot, so I won't start to argue about the details of what we talked about unless you want me to. If you like we can take this out in public, I just need to know.

Fact is: You broke rules with your alts, they got muted. Others broke rules with their alts, they got muted. All main accounts are still intact. Act like a grown up and stick to the rules and your reputation won't be hurt.

But of course, if you insist we can waste more of our lifetimes by taking this out in public if you like.

The way you act here is like you being the troll for sure.

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November 01, 2018, 09:35:00 PM
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oh and just a quick remark, because I simply have to: editing your posts so they bring my posts out of context and using multiple accounts on bitcointalk don't help your reputation either Smiley

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November 01, 2018, 09:55:49 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2018, 12:19:26 AM by Sandpaper44
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Hello.

I made my reason for muting you transparent: you created multiple accounts with very offensive usernames directed to one specific user. That is considered an offensive behavior and thus the mute.
Why perm mute? Because you cannot change usernames and we cannot allow you to use them on the chat. Furthermore, you cannot use alt accounts in the chat, especially when you get muted on one of them.
If you cannot reach us out through Live Support chat, you can always email us on support@primedice.com. We will reply as soon as possible.



This is the story and I can see you believe it but you lacked integrity into actually reviewing if you banned the right accounts. You know that because people questioned you right off the bat.

Let me suggest you tell people how long they are being banned for then. I only found out that it was perma after a few hours went by and I contacted you through messenger on my other account. Honestly thought you would hear me out but that was not the case at all. Weird thing is all the stuff said was in hindi so I guess some one must have been in your ear to find it offensive. Either way it does not add up for me and said a lot about your true character, I was wrong to think you where a nice person all this time.
As for contacting support, I did this and you disconnect. I contact another mod and they need to talk to you to see the story. Its a circle jerk.

Edit: Just noticed something you highlighted and want to address. The whole troll started based off that so do find it interesting to point to it but not know that. Lint was playing dumb and at the time I did not realize it and was baited into a conversation being helpful about people using Alts. I stated some mods here have alts and that they are allowed, Seuntje confirms that in the supposed troll I am banned for and thats that. End of discussion but lint carries it on and you mute on of his accounts and I thank you and you mute me. Thats the story. Obviously no one has reviewed the chat to see Thisguyfucks is not Thisguybusts and could not see that one was created that day to troll.
So easy for me but I guess not for PD.

oh and just a quick remark, because I simply have to: editing your posts so they bring my posts out of context and using multiple accounts on bitcointalk don't help your reputation either Smiley

I am not here to establish a reputation, see I am not invested in trying to appear as something I am not or selling a brand. Already know how the trust system is played out here and it does not interest me in the bit. So that is just dragging a aspect into the discussion that is not needed. Only assumption you gather that from anyways is from me pointing to it, so nothing to hide. Stop making it appear like I have some hidden nefarious behaviour, these hints are for the birds unless you go there.

I edit my post to keep from spamming up as I tend to speak in long form and it drives a few people mad seeing my blocks. The conversation snippets are the only things I learned that where new from our conversation. You talked in a manner that was already passed judgement and added smoke to it, so I talked on it.
I can post the chat here if it helps, nothing hidden there at all.

These implications that you have something on me are another aspect that troubles me. Implying on the net is the same as passing verdicts and smearing a person. So if you are not putting personal information like IP or location outside of me being from Canada I am open to it. Fire away if it helps make me a bad guy that you perceive to be.

It was suggested to contact you for chat logs because I wanted to clear my name. Other than that I did not ask you to come at me as a add on. Honestly did not expect that from you either.

Lets be clear I had no time to troll that day, I was having a serious issue dealt with my waterline that was and is costing me thousands of dollars. As we speak they are tearing my yard up looking for the leak and have to talk to me every 30 minutes or so. So me creating multiple accounts yesterday to troll a troll seems pointless.
Have stated it a few times now I was rolling and not using autoroll during that whole time. Would some onefrom India talk at such things at length, compare the trolls to lint and its pretty easy to read. I mean its amazing how easy it would be to see this but I know its not going to happen, as it would have been done already.

Like I said I am done with Primedice, its just got to many odd trolling aspects going on here and on the site that are odd.


Add: Giving each other merit is also helping the optics how? Its the same reason the trust system here is not to be trusted unless you can confirm the people on a individual basis. Suggest every one do their own and not trust any of that stuff. Its a well known gambit of buying favour and scratching each others backs. Just look through this post and you will find the majority of merits are coming from other PD employees. Optics fail once again.


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November 01, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
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Suggest every one do their own and not trust any of that stuff.

I suggest the same.

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November 02, 2018, 09:32:49 PM
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Common, accussing each other of liers... doesn't look well.

Sandpaper44, I was not there that day, so I'm trusting what you said: it is clear that the account ""Thisguyfucks"" is not you, and you main account is """Thisguybusts""". Is that right? Did you created another account other than "Thisguybusts"? If yes, then you are not going to get unbanned.

No need to answer this questions, just to make you save time because the outcome is the same: cashout and create a new account.
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Common, accussing each other of liers... doesn't look well.

Sandpaper44, I was not there that day, so I'm trusting what you said: it is clear that the account ""Thisguyfucks"" is not you, and you main account is """Thisguybusts""". Is that right? Did you created another account other than "Thisguybusts"? If yes, then you are not going to get unbanned.

No need to answer this questions, just to make you save time because the outcome is the same: cashout and create a new account.


Its a real simple issue that been drawn out and I have just decided to kick rocks completely. My health is to important than to be worked up by some folks that pile on without checking the facts and accusing me of yet more and more b.s!

If you ever wonder, just watch chat and you will see this individual Lint is on multiple accounts. He would state the same stupid stuff to me during this issue on about 4 accounts all well mods where telling me to drop it. If they can not see the same chat style when they are up in there as a job and I was just a customer, then its a dead horse being kicked.

The thing I wondered and I have been active on Primedice off and on since 2015, was why all the regulars had left.
Just presumed it was due to a better site with rake or something and kept asking to no avail. Now I am understanding that the trolls run the nest and people slowly got squeezed or fed up. Who knows but it has to be a part of the issue because they are all gone.

Just because some mods think they are more intelligent than others does not mean we do not pick up on the subtle digs. The whole passive aggressive I received from a few was really unnerving and frankly disgusting.

Radiante I never did cross paths with you but I can tell you are sincere in your words. Hopefully the site weeds out some of the old guard as the site has some entrenched trolls.

Anyways...Like I said I just come in to get the last word ( Grin) and let you know that there is no changing of names and starting over this time. Sure some will say "hey he admits to being on other accounts"! I discarded some for bad luck and others because I forgot the password and never setup a email. Then others when I really did not understand dice and used it to move my yobit exchange funds when I thought the more addresses something passed through the better. Was still pretty new to bitcoin at that point obviously.


I think I have done enough explaining of the issue and everytime some one says they got something to add but I might not like it, there never is anything. So it might pay some folks to stop making veiled threats in my direction. Its stupid and not helping the Primedice image.
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November 03, 2018, 10:00:25 AM
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Anyways...Like I said I just come in to get the last word ( Grin) and let you know that there is no changing of names and starting over this time.

Fair, but I hope to see you again in the Primedice chat in the future. GL!
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We are looking for people to work in a closed team of Brand Managers.

The job consists in you doing updates to your threads on Bitcointalk and some extra Forums, based on a schedule we will provide you.
These updates must be done in your own language and should not take you more than a few minutes per day. Some languages updates should be every day while some others are limited to up to 4x a week, according to their forums subsections / social medias activity.

No Google translators or anything similar will be accepted. If we find you using such services you will be kicked from the team and don't expect any payment

If you are interested check full Info at: https://forum.primedice.com/topic/33482-%F0%9F%93%A2-looking-for-new-brand-managers/

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