LiQuidx
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September 24, 2014, 02:09:47 PM |
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Is there any to yours? What does it matter, if you want to waste your time and money on some bullshit site, go for it..... Site wreaks of a scam/inside job.
First of all i didn't make any claim so what exactly are you asking about? Secondly if i did, it would be proof. Last but not least, the burden of proof lies on the on making the claim, not the other way around so you have to prove that. You just sound mad because you THINK they took your money away while the truth is you gambled your money and lost... That's all.
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MICRO
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September 24, 2014, 02:32:28 PM |
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Is there any to yours? What does it matter, if you want to waste your time and money on some bullshit site, go for it..... Site wreaks of a scam/inside job.
First of all i didn't make any claim so what exactly are you asking about? Secondly if i did, it would be proof. Last but not least, the burden of proof lies on the on making the claim, not the other way around so you have to prove that. You just sound mad because you THINK they took your money away while the truth is you gambled your money and lost... That's all. Don't feed the trolls guys.
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leex1528
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September 24, 2014, 04:02:51 PM |
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I really don't understand why people call gambling rigged. Do you see those HUGE CASINOS that are worth billions/millions of dollars? You know how they got that big? Gamblers...
You will not win at gambling if there is a house edge. Yeah sure you might win short run, but in the long run, you are going to lose, it is simple %'s
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BBmmBB
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September 24, 2014, 04:22:08 PM |
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I fucking swear I did great on this site, I should have cashed out... they track my IP once I do really well, and end up stealing everything from me with bogus rolls. This site is shady as fuck no matter how you slice it. It's only a few select same people that are there and most of them have -1 or more BTC , and the admins suck ass (wreaks of inside scam). I should have gone with my instincts when I first saw it...... STAY AWAY!
noob .. IP logs? lmao ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ~ who told u
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DiamondCardz
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September 24, 2014, 04:55:40 PM |
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I fucking swear I did great on this site, I should have cashed out... they track my IP once I do really well, and end up stealing everything from me with bogus rolls. This site is shady as fuck no matter how you slice it. It's only a few select same people that are there and most of them have -1 or more BTC , and the admins suck ass (wreaks of inside scam). I should have gone with my instincts when I first saw it...... STAY AWAY!
Holy hell, why don't you just verify your rolls after each roll then? If the hashes didn't verify then you could make a Scam Accusation and PD would very quickly die a la DiceBitcoin. "PD rigs rolls" does not count as proof. I smell a troll.
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September 24, 2014, 06:05:17 PM |
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Its impossible for them to rig the bets. Verify them, and if they are wrong they have scammed you, the site would go down INSTANTLY.
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September 24, 2014, 06:09:12 PM |
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Some members have been really disrespectful lately and saying things that shouldn't be allowed. One which talking about spammers and beggars getting of lightly, ironically he/she has begged a lot lately. I PMed a Mod that was on at the time about the highly inappropriate and offensive comments but was simply ignored. There's too many kids on this chat than any other site tbh. Mods have too many preferences on here usually because of the tips they received from certain members.
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September 24, 2014, 07:59:09 PM |
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So i'm just adding a bit to brah's statement. The moderator Hui, is terrible. I don' know how you guys pick moderators, or why he was picked, but he should not be in that position. Begging and spam is one thing, but when a mod allows users to harass others. Calling them n**** and towelhead, and the like, this and that about their mothers, etc. Something should be done. The mod is RIGHT THERE, in chat. And the only thing he did was "if you do not want to hear it ignore the user...", or "grow up guys". Then leaves because he has no idea how get the chat room back under control. I don't know what kind of mod system you guys use, but seeing Primedice allow that kind of crap with a admin representative is poorly reflective of the site overall. Hui, I don't know how old you are, or what the hell you were thinking, but are an absolutely useless moderator. You're a glorified chat hound. http://i62.tinypic.com/poh91.png
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September 24, 2014, 08:08:10 PM |
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There are more elitists in primedice chat than in all Wow servers population ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 24, 2014, 08:22:36 PM |
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So i'm just adding a bit to brah's statement. The moderator Hui, is terrible. I don' know how you guys pick moderators, or why he was picked, but he should not be in that position. Begging and spam is one thing, but when a mod allows users to harass others. Calling them n**** and towelhead, and the like, this and that about their mothers, etc. Something should be done. The mod is RIGHT THERE, in chat. And the only thing he did was "if you do not want to hear it ignore the user...", or "grow up guys". Then leaves because he has no idea how get the chat room back under control. I don't know what kind of mod system you guys use, but seeing Primedice allow that kind of crap with a admin representative is poorly reflective of the site overall. Hui, I don't know how old you are, or what the hell you were thinking, but are an absolutely useless moderator. You're a glorified chat hound. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fpoh91.png&t=665&c=KoBRvl0AXMARMg) thanks a lot for your kind words. i never asked to be a mod and as the community goes these days im not sure i even want to be anymore. btw: i never called anyone n**** or towelhead im sure you would do a way better job.
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September 24, 2014, 08:30:11 PM |
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I still dont like you stunna, You promised me 0.01 btc for the delay of the launch and then changed the rules...you still haven't answered my message, micro said he will send it to me because it's not fair from you. But he also never replied to my messages.... But the last two days I deposited a small amount of bitcoins and made 0.7 btc profit, i keep the profit but I will never play again on your site because I know I will then lose it all
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nyktalgia
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September 24, 2014, 08:38:11 PM |
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I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.
As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.
Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.
I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.
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September 24, 2014, 08:39:46 PM |
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I still dont like you stunna, You promised me 0.01 btc for the delay of the launch and then changed the rules...you still haven't answered my message, micro said he will send it to me because it's not fair from you. But he also never replied to my messages.... But the last two days I deposited a small amount of bitcoins and made 0.7 btc profit, i keep the profit but I will never play again on your site because I know I will then lose it all How much did you start with and what method did you use? I just want to break even now as well, and gtfo. It's going to take me some time tho because anytime you try to bet higher even if you are on a winning streak, it will inevitably fuck you in the ass.
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September 24, 2014, 08:45:45 PM |
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I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.
As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.
Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.
I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.
Have you found a flaw in the provably fair system or are you trying defame sites because you are sad you lost? The site is provably fair and I can't believe people who play on these sites still don't understand what that means.
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nyktalgia
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September 24, 2014, 08:50:52 PM |
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I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.
As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.
Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.
I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.
Have you found a flaw in the provably fair system or are you trying defame sites because you are sad you lost? The site is provably fair and I can't believe people who play on these sites still don't understand what that means. Ya it's a cheap way of saying you will get fucked in the ass in the long run.
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Daggett993
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September 24, 2014, 08:53:00 PM |
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I agree ignore is there for a reason, if somebody wants to talk shit, why shouldn't they have the right to do so? If anyone actually gets offended over the computer that is their problem.
As for losing long term, I don't see how it is possible to win for 12 hours straight, and then lose constantly for 30 minutes with 1% edge. Maybe I got greedy, but the likeliness of that occurring as many time as it has seems fishy as hell. It always seems to be around the same profit margins, and switching up the strategy never helps.
Seems like the only ppl who profit here are ones who don't make a significant amount, or people who have asstons of btc to recoup losses from. I don't see how I can get .2 like nothing, takes me a decent amount of time, and then lose it in the blink of an eye, maybe I bid too high or greed, but it's fucking annoying as hell. Seems like it always freezes up and lags before a big roll which comes out a loss afterwards.
I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.
Have you found a flaw in the provably fair system or are you trying defame sites because you are sad you lost? The site is provably fair and I can't believe people who play on these sites still don't understand what that means. Ya it's a cheap way of saying you will get fucked in the ass in the long run. Of course though. The house has an edge of .9% or whatever it is. The only game they offer where you won't lose in the long run in PVP with no edge, so there is an equal expected value of you earning or losing coins.
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nyktalgia
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September 24, 2014, 09:02:27 PM |
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Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?
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September 24, 2014, 09:11:11 PM |
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Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?
The way provably fair works is that setting your client seed is what determines every bet you will make with that seed, because each roll is server seed + client seed + nonce (the nonce is adding a sequential numbers to the end). Adding a number to the client seed makes the roll change randomly. From when you first set your client seed, the server can determine what your next 1 billion rolls would be if they wanted to. They cannot however, change or manipulate these rolls. If you feel you are unlucky, changing the client seed will change the outcome of your future rolls, so some people choose to do that because it makes them feel better, but statistically it provides no advantage. It just gives you a different set of future rolls.
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nyktalgia
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September 24, 2014, 09:18:29 PM |
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That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.
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September 24, 2014, 09:20:29 PM |
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Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?
The way provably fair works is that setting your client seed is what determines every bet you will make with that seed, because each roll is server seed + client seed + nonce (the nonce is adding a sequential numbers to the end). Adding a number to the client seed makes the roll change randomly. From when you first set your client seed, the server can determine what your next 1 billion rolls would be if they wanted to. They cannot however, change or manipulate these rolls. If you feel you are unlucky, changing the client seed will change the outcome of your future rolls, so some people choose to do that because it makes them feel better, but statistically it provides no advantage. It just gives you a different set of future rolls. ok so if you were to change your seed for EVERY ROLL...what in the code ensures the outcome of the rolls will be as advertised percent? hmmm =O
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