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October 01, 2014, 06:32:02 PM |
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how much is ur loss or profit ( rarely anyon e has ) on PD3 ?
my is 0.0003 profit , once i was in 0.01 btc loss lol my is always -ve , no matter what strategy i use , any strategy u have ? no i dont have any , play random is best by the way good luck
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superSTAR777
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October 01, 2014, 06:32:49 PM |
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how much is ur loss or profit ( rarely anyon e has ) on PD3 ?
my is 0.0003 profit , once i was in 0.01 btc loss lol my is always -ve , no matter what strategy i use , any strategy u have ? no i dont have any , play random is best by the way good luck you too
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Babba D
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October 01, 2014, 06:34:25 PM |
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thanks oh wow its the 10,000th post usernme on PD - babbud thanks any tips welcomed
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October 01, 2014, 07:22:58 PM |
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thanks oh wow its the 10,000th post usernme on PD - babbud thanks any tips welcomed That is the post #10001 in this thread instead. You now just need to go back and delete one of your earlier in this thread to achieve the goal lol.
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October 01, 2014, 07:23:07 PM |
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thanks oh wow its the 10,000th post usernme on PD - babbud thanks any tips welcomed brb tipping you 10 btc. seems like the beggars from the chat are starting to overflow into bitcointalk
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October 01, 2014, 07:29:42 PM Last edit: October 01, 2014, 08:00:51 PM by Babba D |
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thanks oh wow its the 10,000th post usernme on PD - babbud thanks any tips welcomed brb tipping you 10 btc. seems like the beggars from the chat are starting to overflow into bitcointalk neither your name nor words have any meaning , please dont say things which dont mean , and posts are counted after admin's post , i dont need any tips just asked if someone wants , please stay away !
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October 01, 2014, 07:55:54 PM |
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'
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October 01, 2014, 08:06:47 PM |
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'
i agree with you but theres not really anything you can do about it
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October 01, 2014, 08:19:55 PM |
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So he was martingling, and he lost a bet he should have won. And because of that he countinued to double up and lost the remander of his bank. Now isnt that the same concept as when dicebitco.in was skipping nonces. The users were martingling and they lost a bet they should have won and because of that they continued to double up and lost the remander of there bank. To me it seems like the same concept. And PD is refusing to pay out the rest. Seems like a scam to me.
Yeah u are right they should pay out infinite amount of coins coz that is what he would make if he didn't lost that bet and continued playing martingale. My bad. MICRO, I will ignore you since you practically live on PD and seem to defend them no matter what. I suggest they pay me the amount wagered. No more infinity or time machines bro, please stop the hippy crap, it's not funny. You seem highly sarcastic about a serious issue, is this the way a senior member tackles and issue with a client? You should know that being admin on the site and being there so often makes you somewhat a representative in the eyes of others. You just write this lame ass answer? The site makes me laugh, think it's run by some high school kids. Makes me think you guys take nothing serious at all.
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MICRO
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October 01, 2014, 08:20:11 PM |
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'
U are getting refunded for that bet , ur bet + profit u would make. And that is it. U can't get refund for any bets before or after that . edit: im just a mod. not an admin and i don't work for pd and don't represent them in any way. I find it funny how u try to get refund for bets that are settled correctly. U will get refund for that bet. I don't see whats so big issue. It would be if they decided not to give refunds.
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?
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October 01, 2014, 08:26:12 PM |
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Here : Some of that is already settled. And its less than 37k even thou that should be around there . Mostly bets on high payouts like 9900x ware affected. And pd3 is not affected by that. Around 1 in 20,000 of all bets before PD3 will have been affected, regardless of payout multiplier. All bets had a chance of winning that was 0.005% less than advertised. I'm not sure where the idea that only high-multiplier bets were affected came from; they're just as likely to be affected as any other bet. Here's the current list of unclaimed rounded bets from PD2 at 2x multiplier. We ignored bets below a certain threshold (faucet bets). Sarah: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.25600000000000000000 jp1966: 49.5 was 32.673 @ 0.10240000000000000000 Sisoje: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.10240000000000000000 grigina: 50.5 was 50.501 @ 0.09102816000000000000 Zodiac: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.05000000000000000000 Purcell: 49.5 was 1.021 @ 0.04000000000000000000 hhhr: 50.5 was 50.499 @ 0.04000000000000000000 lucaspm982: 50.5 was 50.498 @ 0.03500000000000000000 Bright: 50.5 was 48.864 @ 0.03418000000000000000 Toje: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.03242097000000000000 Skeppy: 49.5 was 49.498 @ 0.02500000000000000000 Wavey: 49.5 was 38.559 @ 0.02000000000000000000 Tuffies78: 50.5 was 32.794 @ 0.02000000000000000000 Lain33: 49.5 was 49.495 @ 0.02000000000000000000 IZACS: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.01600000000000000000 Eltan: 50.5 was 7.44 @ 0.01600000000000000000 Zodiac: 49.5 was 49.504 @ 0.01600000000000000000 miloslim1: 49.5 was 49.498 @ 0.01280000000000000000 murcury12345: 49.5 was 55.929 @ 0.01280000000000000000 jp1966: 49.5 was 40.572 @ 0.01280000000000000000 TinaTTMM: 50.5 was 50.495 @ 0.01200000000000000000 applesauce1: 49.5 was 49.496 @ 0.01111110000000000000 yoo3311: 49.5 was 56.772 @ 0.01100000000000000000 shinet: 49.5 was 49.496 @ 0.01040006000000000000 ORANGEDEVE: 50.5 was 50.502 @ 0.01031520000000000000 maniana: 49.5 was 49.498 @ 0.01024000000000000000 amigo: 50.5 was 50.496 @ 0.01024000000000000000 troyrPD: 49.5 was 49.495 @ 0.01000000000000000000 keylo: 49.5 was 49.504 @ 0.01000000000000000000 Ashlamar: 49.5 was 40.899 @ 0.01000000000000000000 Lain33: 49.5 was 49.505 @ 0.01000000000000000000 hemp: 50.5 was 50.497 @ 0.01000000000000000000 davida: 49.5 was 62.537 @ 0.01000000000000000000 btcboss: 50.5 was 50.496 @ 0.01000000000000000000 amigo: 49.5 was 49.495 @ 0.01000000000000000000 ultima32: 49.5 was 49.498 @ 0.00952300000000000000 playerone: 49.5 was 49.503 @ 0.00909855000000000000 hui: 49.5 was 49.505 @ 0.00900000000000000000 mephy: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.00800000000000000000 blizard2014: 49.5 was 49.503 @ 0.00800000000000000000 hegel: 49.5 was 70.863 @ 0.00800000000000000000 Lan: 49.5 was 49.504 @ 0.00753147000000000000 topo: 50.5 was 50.495 @ 0.00692155000000000000 mephy: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.00672000000000000000 coinad: 49.5 was 49.502 @ 0.00645069000000000000 robertus: 50.5 was 95.434 @ 0.00640000000000000000 cheifkeef: 50.5 was 31.207 @ 0.00640000000000000000 fritzzz25: 49.5 was 49.498 @ 0.00640000000000000000 keylow: 49.5 was 49.496 @ 0.00620000000000000000 daimon: 49.5 was 49.503 @ 0.00524288000000000000 Blcsa: 49.5 was 49.503 @ 0.00500000000000000000 timmmm: 49.5 was 68.621 @ 0.00500000000000000000 Mates1337: 49.5 was 49.502 @ 0.00500000000000000000 timmmm: 49.5 was 45.5 @ 0.00500000000000000000 dobe: 50.5 was 50.496 @ 0.00500000000000000000 Draiko: 49.5 was 49.503 @ 0.00447200000000000000 Mitchel87: 50.5 was 50.502 @ 0.00409600000000000000 vifit: 50.5 was 50.502 @ 0.00400000000000000000 ruude25: 50.5 was 50.501 @ 0.00400000000000000000 Kit1234567: 50.5 was 50.499 @ 0.00400000000000000000 Draiko: 49.5 was 49.667 @ 0.00400000000000000000 jp1966: 49.5 was 49.504 @ 0.00400000000000000000 Bjorn1010: 49.5 was 49.505 @ 0.00370000000000000000 playerone: 50.5 was 50.504 @ 0.00356516000000000000 ultima32: 49.5 was 49.503 @ 0.00339300000000000000 bithero: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.00320000000000000000 Didldak: 49.5 was 80.194 @ 0.00320000000000000000 pale: 49.5 was 49.496 @ 0.00320000000000000000 xxChange: 49.5 was 49.496 @ 0.00279848000000000000 blank: 49.5 was 49.502 @ 0.00262144000000000000 bithero: 49.5 was 24.276 @ 0.00262144000000000000 BTCwillRISE: 50.5 was 50.495 @ 0.00250000000000000000 Androee: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.00250000000000000000 istanbulll: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.00250000000000000000 Yoshiiiiiii: 49.5 was 49.498 @ 0.00210000000000000000 WhyMeNoWin: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.00209995000000000000 tryingagain: 49.5 was 49.504 @ 0.00209712000000000000 nznl: 50.5 was 50.501 @ 0.00202816000000000000 Zodiac: 49.5 was 53.153 @ 0.00200000000000000000 omarhesa: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.00200000000000000000 xsdman923x: 49.5 was 69.914 @ 0.00200000000000000000 zyndr1: 49.5 was 49.504 @ 0.00200000000000000000 dakota: 49.5 was 39.319 @ 0.00200000000000000000 mishel: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.00200000000000000000 zyndr1: 49.5 was 49.497 @ 0.00200000000000000000 bithero: 49.5 was 49.501 @ 0.00200000000000000000 elmagico: 50.5 was 50.503 @ 0.00200000000000000000 omrgg: 49.5 was 49.502 @ 0.00200000000000000000 keylow: 49.5 was 49.499 @ 0.00200000000000000000 POSITIVE: 49.5 was 49.496 @ 0.00200000000000000000 iheartubuntu: 49.5 was 49.497 @ 0.00200000000000000000 Also I hope the new captchas aren't too annoying, the first hour they were implemented faucet claims were cut down to 1/3 their prior amount which shows how severe the botting issue probably was.
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October 01, 2014, 08:31:03 PM |
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else.
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October 01, 2014, 08:36:29 PM |
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else. There is no "this run" . It could be the run till pd2 got closed. Come on be reasonable. I will not discuss this anymore. There is just no way to inspect every "run" on pd2 on every bet that didn't round properly . U will get ur money back for each bet that was settled incorrectly . And that is it. Sorry for bad sense of humor in previous posts. Its just that what u are saying (atleast to me) doesn't make any sense . Btw, everybody who is on that list should contact support@primedice.com and they will refund u. Cheers.
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October 01, 2014, 08:37:31 PM |
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Any release dates for the next giveaway? I heard that they would announce it right after but I have yet to hear that.
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October 01, 2014, 08:39:52 PM |
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else. There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin. On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected. On the highest payout though the edge was more-so effected but there weren't really any significant sized bets made at that payout, almost exclusively faucet bets. No rolls were manipulated the edge was literally just 0.01% more than advertised. This was disclosed to us after PD3 had already launched with a system that seems to definitively be 1%. Obviously this wasn't intentional and the effects were much more minimal than I initially thought from what we've seen so far. Lain's logic isn't exactly sound, he was offered a refund + bonus but believes that his betting decisions made were effected by that loss. I'm willing to look into it not because he is right but simply because the cost will likely be extremely minimal if anything at all (if he won the bet after then it wouldn't matter) and because I want him to be satisfied. @lain I responded to your email earlier today, should have more on the weekend, as I've said though it is highly unlikely it effected a large martingale series granted how many bets you've made. With regards to the promised giveaways, the 1B giveaway was a lot of fun and I'm thinking up some ideas for the near future, open to suggestions.
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October 01, 2014, 08:41:59 PM Last edit: October 03, 2014, 08:44:18 AM by LainThirtyThree |
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else. There is no "this run" . It could be the run till pd2 got closed. Come on be reasonable. I will not discuss this anymore. There is just no way to inspect every "run" on pd2 on every bet that didn't round properly . U will get ur money back for each bet that was settled incorrectly . And that is it. Sorry for bad sense of humor in previous posts. Its just that what u are saying (atleast to me) doesn't make any sense . Btw, everybody who is on that list should contact support@primedice.com and they will refund u. Cheers. Noo Micro... :/ I mean, if on the very next bet I doubled and lost as a result I am have been duped. I would not have doubled up if I never lost the next bet, and thus I have lost a large amount. If I had won the bet then I would have starting pre-rolling or reverting to my lower base bet. It seem to me, although it may not be, suspicious that this flaw would happen on such a significant bet considering I pre-roll 5 reds and had almost 1 million bets... On a further note, PD has contacted me back. The developer who handles the PD2 database or something is gone for a few days it seems but they will apparently look into is. I don't know why Micro is speaking on behalf of PD regarding this serious matter, I am in contact with support though. Let's see what happens
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else. There is no "this run" . It could be the run till pd2 got closed. Come on be reasonable. I will not discuss this anymore. There is just no way to inspect every "run" on pd2 on every bet that didn't round properly . U will get ur money back for each bet that was settled incorrectly . And that is it. Sorry for bad sense of humor in previous posts. Its just that what u are saying (atleast to me) doesn't make any sense . Btw, everybody who is on that list should contact support@primedice.com and they will refund u. Cheers. Noo Micro... :/ I mean, if on the very next bet I doubled and lost as a result I am have been duped. I would not have doubled up if I never lost the next bet, and thus I have lost a large amount. If I had won the bet then I would have staring pre-rolling or reverting to my lower base bet. It seem to me, although it may not be, suspicious that this flaw would happen on such a significant bet considering I pre-roll 5 reds and had almost 1 million bets... On a further note, PD has contacted me back. The developed who handles the PD2 database is gone for a few days it seems but they will apparently look into is. I don't know why Micro is speaking on behalf of PD regarding this serious matter, I am in contact with support though. Let's see what happens I don't speak on behalf of PD. I speak my own opinion. And what u are telling is only what u say. If u won that bet u might stopped betting, u might went all in. U say u know what u would do but nobody else does. Its just un provable . That's what i was trying to say. They can't read minds, and they can't refund "what would happen if didn't happen" .
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October 01, 2014, 08:48:51 PM |
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else. There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin. On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected. On the highest payout though the edge was more-so effected but there weren't really any significant sized bets made at that payout, almost exclusively faucet bets. No rolls were manipulated the edge was literally just 0.01% more than advertised. This was disclosed to us after PD3 had already launched with a system that seems to definitively be 1%. Lain's logic isn't exactly sound, he was offered a refund + bonus but believes that his betting decisions made were effected by that loss. I'm willing to look into it not because he is right but simply because the cost will likely be extremely minimal if anything at all (if he won the bet after then it wouldn't matter) and because I want him to be satisfied. @lain I responded to your email earlier today, should have more on the weekend, as I've said though it is highly unlikely it effected a large martingale series granted how many bets you've made. Thanks Stunna, I now rest assured that the correct result will be looked into. I am glad that at least not everybody got confused about what I was saying, I was not question all other bets, only the ones straight after these affected bets. (there were 2) It's also feels weird that 2 of my bets were victim of this, I must the most unlucky guy ever haha as it was like 0.05 over lol PS You still seem very confused Mirco, seriously, are you high man? I am not asking for the results of some theoretical roll, just the result of my next rolls (I say rolls in plural as there were 2 best.. I fear I confuse you more..)
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You want more BTC because you could have doubled it, then doubled it again? That's a completely mathematically ignorant approach. You could not only have lost it - I think you're forgetting that - but a) you're basing on this on the fact that you are now claiming you would have gambled that BTC, which obviously you can't prove, and b) if you use those BTC to gamble now you have the exact same chance of doubling it. Your approach makes no sense and I find it sickening that you would try to twist a site's support this way because want a few extra bucks.
Quick Side Note: I am not affiliated with PD other than moderating chat, I do not get paid by them, this is my own opinion, etc etc etc.
Not because I could have doubled it -but I ALWAYS DO -that's how I played and my bet history can prove that too. Also, I like the way you try to play it down 'a few extra bucks' yeah sure just a few extra bucks whatever. It was more than a few bucks, AND the amount should not matter at all. Furthermore, on a final note, this does not concern you, so stay out of fit, insect. YOU ALWAYS DOUBLE your money?! Damn thats some good shit, how can I sign up with your guaranteed double your money gambling fallacy?! There is no guarantee you will ever win. In fact, especially with primedice, you almost always lose. Your biggest problem here isn't the 0.03 BTC or whatever you're bitching about but the fact that you truly are arguing that if you still had that 0.03 that you FOR SURE would have doubled up through the game. You sir, have a gambling problem because that is a huge gambling fallacy your mind is thinking. This nonce thing has me intrigued. Back in the day I lost so many coins to PD, at least 20 BTC over the course of my run. Be nice to see if any of my screennames are on that list so I can get a little bit back from the thousands upon thousands Stunna's site has made off me... where is this list of nonce affected usernames found?Thanks hellosir1990 and Danksheet for the support. You sir are the one who is out of your mind, because you cannot read. Perhaps you need to go back and do some comprehensive reading lessons so you can keep up with the class. I will put it in simple English in case any more dim minded individuals like yourself attempt a reply like this. I am only requesting to see the results from this run -no others. If it turns out that I lost my bankroll on a direct string of bets when in fact I should have won then I think yes I deserve the wagered amount back as the game was manipulated or cheated or poorly programmed in seems in this case. Oh, by the way, by doubling I mean doubling my bets in a martingale sequence -perhaps you need to read the OP, but I fear asking you to read anything else. There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin. On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected. On the highest payout though the edge was more-so effected but there weren't really any significant sized bets made at that payout, almost exclusively faucet bets. No rolls were manipulated the edge was literally just 0.01% more than advertised. This was disclosed to us after PD3 had already launched with a system that seems to definitively be 1%. Lain's logic isn't exactly sound, he was offered a refund + bonus but believes that his betting decisions made were effected by that loss. I'm willing to look into it not because he is right but simply because the cost will likely be extremely minimal if anything at all (if he won the bet after then it wouldn't matter) and because I want him to be satisfied. @lain I responded to your email earlier today, should have more on the weekend, as I've said though it is highly unlikely it effected a large martingale series granted how many bets you've made. Thanks Stunna, I now rest assured that the correct result will be looked into. I am glad that at least not everybody got confused about what I was saying, I was not question all other bets, only the ones straight after these affected bets. (there were 2) It's also feels weird that 2 of my bets were victim of this, I must the most unlucky guy ever haha as it was like 0.05 over lol PS You still seem very confused Mirco, seriously, are you high man? I am not asking for the results of some theoretical roll, just the result of my next roll. As always , better to wait for The man to give his word than argue it for nothing . Hehe... I can't agree with u, or it might been just an misunderstanding. I just wouldn't pay attention to ur next roll , no matter if it was win or loss. But ok u lost that money , not me. Cheers Lain33 .
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