zzaza
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October 02, 2014, 10:01:45 PM |
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Suggestion: when clicking on a chat name, why not add a statistics button there? I know there is a U: but I think a function like that should exist.
Just click on the graph next to the name, there you can see the stats
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williamj2543
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October 02, 2014, 10:28:45 PM |
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Just turned 0.2 into 0.25 over and over again at satoshibones and primedice. I keep betting 0.1 at luckybit on green and I ALWAYS hit the middle, making back my winnings at other sites lol.
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Seketsuna
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October 03, 2014, 01:04:11 AM |
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Just turned 0.2 into 0.25 over and over again at satoshibones and primedice. I keep betting 0.1 at luckybit on green and I ALWAYS hit the middle, making back my winnings at other sites lol.
don't play for too long thou you might ending up in a big 0btc
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williamj2543
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October 03, 2014, 01:45:53 AM |
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Just turned 0.2 into 0.25 over and over again at satoshibones and primedice. I keep betting 0.1 at luckybit on green and I ALWAYS hit the middle, making back my winnings at other sites lol.
don't play for too long thou you might ending up in a big 0btc Yea I'm always scared of that red flash. Im gonna stop wasting it on luckyb.it now.
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sickhouse
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October 03, 2014, 03:23:37 AM |
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Suggestion: when clicking on a chat name, why not add a statistics button there? I know there is a U: but I think a function like that should exist.
Just click on the graph next to the name, there you can see the stats Cool, had no idea. Neither did the mod I suggested this to but now I know.
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Turn off the news and read. Watch Psywar, learn something important about our society and PR, why and how it got started and how it brainwashes you.
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Bobblehead Pete
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October 03, 2014, 03:31:49 AM |
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Suggestion: when clicking on a chat name, why not add a statistics button there? I know there is a U: but I think a function like that should exist.
Just click on the graph next to the name, there you can see the stats Cool, had no idea. Neither did the mod I suggested this to but now I know. I have no idea about that sir.. Thank you for you advice!
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sickhouse
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October 03, 2014, 03:50:09 AM |
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OK STUNNA PLEASE REMOVE THE SPAMMING BOT CODE, HIGH ROLLER ONCE EVERY 1 SECOND POSTED IN CHAT. Chat has been literally impossible to properly use for the last 30 minutes+ (think it's an hour soon) thanks to spam from the bot. Make it post once or twice a min, make it announce once in a while, after 1 of those posts everyone interested turns to watch the high roller anyway. Once every autobet... It's unbearable, and spam if I ever saw it, imagine if 2 of those came... I'm pretty sure everyone will agree with me, unless they spite me (which is a possibility).
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Turn off the news and read. Watch Psywar, learn something important about our society and PR, why and how it got started and how it brainwashes you.
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dooglus
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October 03, 2014, 05:43:44 AM |
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'
U are getting refunded for that bet , ur bet + profit u would make. And that is it. U can't get refund for any bets before or after that . If he always martingales, always doubles after losing a bet, then I don't see why you wouldn't refund the whole losing streak that followed the incorrectly settled bet. It's pretty obvious that he wouldn't have gone on to make all the bigger bets if the incorrectly settled bet had been marked as a win like it should have been. The error is entirely PD's fault, and in a clear cut case like this I don't see why they wouldn't do what's right and refund the whole losing streak. It seems pretty unlikely that either of his buggy rolls were part of a busting streak anyway, so it's probably an academic point, but the attitude I'm seeing from the mods quite frankly sucks.
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October 03, 2014, 05:46:22 AM |
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'
U are getting refunded for that bet , ur bet + profit u would make. And that is it. U can't get refund for any bets before or after that . If he always martingales, always doubles after losing a bet, then I don't see why you wouldn't refund the whole losing streak that followed the incorrectly settled bet. It's pretty obvious that he wouldn't have gone on to make all the bigger bets if the incorrectly settled bet had been marked as a win like it should have been. The error is entirely PD's fault, and in a clear cut case like this I don't see why they wouldn't do what's right and refund the whole losing streak. It seems pretty unlikely that either of his buggy rolls were part of a busting streak anyway, so it's probably an academic point, but the attitude I'm seeing from the mods quite frankly sucks. I already agreed to do so, I appreciate the opinions of the mods but that was already decided on so there is no point in continuing to debate this. OK STUNNA PLEASE REMOVE THE SPAMMING BOT CODE, HIGH ROLLER ONCE EVERY 1 SECOND POSTED IN CHAT. Chat has been literally impossible to properly use for the last 30 minutes+ (think it's an hour soon) thanks to spam from the bot.
Make it post once or twice a min, make it announce once in a while, after 1 of those posts everyone interested turns to watch the high roller anyway.
Once every autobet... It's unbearable, and spam if I ever saw it, imagine if 2 of those came...
I'm pretty sure everyone will agree with me, unless they spite me (which is a possibility).
Just changed it so it only advertises 10+ btc bets now. I can further limit it to a max amount of advertisements per 10 seconds as well.
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dooglus
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October 03, 2014, 06:03:25 AM |
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There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin.
On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected.
I have tried over and over again to explain this to you. There was a 1/20,000 chance than any individual bet on PD2 was settled as a loss when it should have been settled as a win. Not 1/10,10000. And the guy you're replying to was on the list. Twice. So there is a 100% chance his bets were affected. That's why he's complaining. "significant bet considering I pre-roll 5 reds and had almost"
You sir seriously need to learn the basics of probability
No, he's right. While pre-rolling is a dumb strategy that only appears to work because it wastes so much time that it delays your inevitable losing streak, his point is that since he pre-rolls until he gets 5 losing bets in a row, almost all of his bets are "dust" bets, and so it's weird that his two incorrectly settled bets were for large amounts. You would think that if 97% of your bets are dust bets, then your two incorrectly settled bets are also very likely to be dust bets. What he's missing is that Stunna's list of incorrectly settled bets is only the significant ones - he has already filtered out all the dust bets that were settled incorrectly.
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October 03, 2014, 06:06:12 AM |
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There is massive misinformation in this thread as usual. There was no "nonce" issue with primedice, you are thinking of dicebitcoin.
On primedice 2 the edge was 1.01% instead of 1% as advertised when betting on 2x due to how the numbers were rounded. This effected an extremely small amount of bets above faucet amount, there is a 1/10,000 chance your bet was effected.
I have tried over and over again to explain this to you. There was a 1/20,000 chance than any individual bet on PD2 was settled as a loss when it should have been settled as a win. Not 1/10,10000. And the guy you're replying to was on the list. Twice. So there is a 100% chance his bets were affected. That's why he's complaining. "significant bet considering I pre-roll 5 reds and had almost"
You sir seriously need to learn the basics of probability
No, he's right. While pre-rolling is a dumb strategy that only appears to work because it wastes so much time that it delays your inevitable losing streak, his point is that since he pre-rolls until he gets 5 losing bets in a row, almost all of his bets are "dust" bets, and so it's weird that his two incorrectly settled bets were for large amounts. You would think that if 97% of your bets are dust bets, then your two incorrectly settled bets are also very likely to be dust bets. What he's missing is that Stunna's list of incorrectly settled bets is only the significant ones - he has already filtered out all the dust bets that were settled incorrectly. Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3. IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.
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dooglus
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October 03, 2014, 06:17:44 AM |
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Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3. IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.
Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include?
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Sickler
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October 03, 2014, 06:44:33 AM |
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I could sure go for the same thing as the guy crying about his loss streak ending his life.
I always martingale too on losses.
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adaseb
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October 03, 2014, 07:52:51 AM |
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Stunna,
is there anyway to remove 2FA from my account? I am upgrading my phone and wont have access to the code anymore.
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LainThirtyThree
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October 03, 2014, 08:36:04 AM Last edit: October 03, 2014, 11:24:45 AM by LainThirtyThree |
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You guys are all twist the matter, clearly just defend PD no matter what. No Mirco, not an INFINITE amount, the AMOUNT that I wagered. I won't bother replyning here, I have seen the format these PD suckers reply in. Its like 'insert sarcastic attempt to be funny' blablabla 'PD rules' blablabla 'sorry man some people are unlucky' blabla 'something about varience'
U are getting refunded for that bet , ur bet + profit u would make. And that is it. U can't get refund for any bets before or after that . If he always martingales, always doubles after losing a bet, then I don't see why you wouldn't refund the whole losing streak that followed the incorrectly settled bet. It's pretty obvious that he wouldn't have gone on to make all the bigger bets if the incorrectly settled bet had been marked as a win like it should have been. The error is entirely PD's fault, and in a clear cut case like this I don't see why they wouldn't do what's right and refund the whole losing streak. It seems pretty unlikely that either of his buggy rolls were part of a busting streak anyway, so it's probably an academic point, but the attitude I'm seeing from the mods quite frankly sucks. Dooglus thanks for your reasonable, level headed approach / opinion to my enquiry, you seem to understand my logic. It is good to see not everyone is as dim as: best360noscope KingOfSports adaseb Seriously, WTF is wrong with these guys? These users are defending something without reading the OP and make me wonder what they are even doing replying. In general, the responses from users defending PD makes me think the're all in cahoots, or cannot read properly. I seriously wonder about the itellectual capacity of some of the people on this blog -I think about 1/10 understood me even though I explained myself carefuly. They attacked me with such strange answers -just angry because I was making a claim in what I beleive is a legimate case. Of course, whether or not I am even entitled to the losses from any subsequent roll is a matter of opinion and I will leave that to Stunna. It angered me to see the other replies -such as MIRCO telling me 'I WILL NOT GET ANYMORE BACK' and talking about time machine etc -WTF?! But whatever, thats water under the bridge now. Furthermore, you can understand how I may feel a little cheated if this 'co-incidence' happened to me twice (I think I am the only user that was affect twice but I might be wrong) and I ended up loosing my bankroll, especially when my gambling behaviour was very predictable. I would have serious doubt in the integrity of the rolls, regardless of any provably fair notions. I am not accusing PD of any cheating - so far, it seems all legit so let's see.. Stunna also replied which makes me feel at ease. He also understood the basic principle of my enquiry. PS Dooglus I also noted you have a website dice.ninja?
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October 03, 2014, 11:26:08 AM Last edit: October 03, 2014, 12:11:51 PM by LainThirtyThree |
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I could sure go for the same thing as the guy crying about his loss streak ending his life.
I always martingale too on losses.
Yeah, and you lost, fair and sqaure, like you deserved to. That is not my case
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October 03, 2014, 11:56:12 AM |
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I shouldnt have Played, i should not have played again.
Deposited 1.1 btc, then won and had 1.2 btc then i lost all 1.2 btc because im greedy. Dont play if you are greedy haha.
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Sickler
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October 03, 2014, 01:04:37 PM |
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I could sure go for the same thing as the guy crying about his loss streak ending his life.
I always martingale too on losses.
Yeah, and you lost, fair and sqaure, like you deserved to. That is not my case I always doubled on losses. How could you say I am not the one deserving repayment and you're the one who didn't bust from the rolls? If you never busted from those two rolls you deserve shit. You probably recovered and I didn't.
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MICRO
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October 03, 2014, 01:29:42 PM Last edit: October 03, 2014, 01:42:38 PM by MICRO |
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Your signature is a direct copy (with a bit of modding) from Primedice 3. IMHO that makes you badass. You decide how to interpret that word.
Did you find the hidden part that MICRO asked me to include? I can't find it . I see it says biggest bitcoin game in the world thou. By which measure ? Amount of bets ? Wagered ? Number of players ? And what i said to some other campaign, u should tell them that PD (Stunna) paid for that signature design. I hope they atleast asked to use it. As for Lain33 issue, im still holding my opinion on that. There is no way to know what he would done after that losing bet if it was settled correctly. Maybe he would stop , and cashout. Maybe he would stop betting. Maybe he would start another martingale. Maybe not continue that martingale and lose more. If he continued it and stop on win, than he won starting amount, if bet was settled correctly he would start over again and again he would win starting amount. I rly don't see why he should get refund for losing streak up to next win in martingale. And keep that win. Im sorry i just can't agree with that. We just don't know, and IMO he should be refunded only that bet+profit ofc. What happened after that, and what would happen if it didn't happen... We just don't know, (except Lain) . Im glad that Stunna did look into it and will refund him in full like he suggested. But if everybody starts asking for checking how that roll effected his other rolls after it or his whole day or week after it (which they can argue it did), it will take a long time to refund everybody . And alot of work. And btw, i didn't in any way "advise" Stunna how to handle that with my comments, we as mods DO NOT take part in resolving issues like this (luckily for Lain ) . All we do is keep the chat clear and nothing else. So don't take my word as he said "speaking on behalf of pd" . Cheers Lain and no hard feelings . We just don't agree on something that's all .
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