MemCiD
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October 04, 2014, 11:07:35 AM |
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Looking for ways to break faucet bots/solvers at the moment. When we changed the captcha to solvemedia faucet claims immediately decreased by 60%+ temporarily then moved up. Also if anyone can provide me input on which update we should prioritize I'll consider doing so.
I don't know why you bother with a faucet. There are lots of faucet sites out there that fund themselves via advertising. You're running a dice site; I don't see the need to have a faucet site merged with it. It presumably attracts a lot of freeloading players who never deposit and complain whenever you change the amount of free money you give them. Seems like a lot of work and a waste of money to me. tldr: concentrate on being a good dice site, not a mediocre faucet site Why not be the best of both? But in all seriousness I think we will end up significantly nerfing the faucet to only be a fun bonus for new users, entirely changing it to a once/twice a day daily reward or removing it entirely. I think any of these choices will result in a major backlash from the people who use the faucet, many of them think they are entitled to the rewards as they gained levels so they could use it and think that any nerf is robbery. I lost like 10 BTC with prime dice, screw my life.
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dooglus
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October 04, 2014, 11:31:31 AM |
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Ideally I want to make the faucet a minigame that can be played once or twice a day with scaling rewards based on level.
That's OK, but do you decide who the lucky one or two are who get to play it each day? Or if you mean each person gets to play it every day, you're back to the problem of not being able to tell people from bots, multiple accounts, etc. If I can only play once per day per account, maybe I need 1000 accounts to make up for the coins you have taken away that I feel I am entitled to as a long-serving faucet gobbler? I'm picturing a Chinese warehouse full of these things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLQhX0nZV6I
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galbros
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October 04, 2014, 11:41:54 AM |
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Why not be the best of both? But in all seriousness I agree with your sentiment. I think we will end up significantly nerfing the faucet to only be a fun bonus for new users, entirely changing it to a once/twice a day daily reward or removing it entirely. I think any of these choices will result in a major backlash from the people who use the faucet, many of them think they are entitled to the rewards as they gained levels so they could use it and think that any nerf is robbery. The amount of support emails related to the faucet is staggering and has made it harder and harder to finish more important ones in a timely manner.
The key way to sort out this situation in my opinion is creating a system which rewards people with higher levels without being as expensive/gimmicky as the faucet. Ideally I want to make the faucet a minigame that can be played once or twice a day with scaling rewards based on level.
I have been a primedice and faucet fan for a long time. However, the faucet has turned into such an avenue of abuse and unnecessary source of grief for you that I don't see how it can be sustained. I recall all the grief you took following the first faucet adjustment and that was pretty ridiculous. Maybe you should add an advertising banner to PD like Just Dice had for awhile to offset some of the expense. I realize you get some income from solvemedia, but it can't be significant and if they think the bad guys are botting it I imagine they'll cut that off. I think a once a day bonus would be fun, but don't see a way to structure it in a world where the bad guys can freely open accounts, transfer btc between them (via PvP if not directly) without some human intervention, e.g. a whitelist. The users at JD finally put together a list of "trusted users" that they used in conjunction with a rain bot because of excessive spoofing and alt accounts logging in whenever a rain was in progress. Good Luck!
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waterpile
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October 04, 2014, 12:38:08 PM |
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Looking for ways to break faucet bots/solvers at the moment. When we changed the captcha to solvemedia faucet claims immediately decreased by 60%+ temporarily then moved up. Also if anyone can provide me input on which update we should prioritize I'll consider doing so.
I don't know why you bother with a faucet. There are lots of faucet sites out there that fund themselves via advertising. You're running a dice site; I don't see the need to have a faucet site merged with it. It presumably attracts a lot of freeloading players who never deposit and complain whenever you change the amount of free money you give them. Seems like a lot of work and a waste of money to me. tldr: concentrate on being a good dice site, not a mediocre faucet site Why not be the best of both? But in all seriousness I think we will end up significantly nerfing the faucet to only be a fun bonus for new users, entirely changing it to a once/twice a day daily reward or removing it entirely. I think any of these choices will result in a major backlash from the people who use the faucet, many of them think they are entitled to the rewards as they gained levels so they could use it and think that any nerf is robbery. I lost like 10 BTC with prime dice, screw my life. move on and with thay money you can invest something better.
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singpays
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October 04, 2014, 01:36:14 PM |
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faucet to (almost) 0.01   Congrats Hui
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Minnlo
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October 04, 2014, 02:22:25 PM |
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Why not be the best of both? But in all seriousness I agree with your sentiment. I think we will end up significantly nerfing the faucet to only be a fun bonus for new users, entirely changing it to a once/twice a day daily reward or removing it entirely. I think any of these choices will result in a major backlash from the people who use the faucet, many of them think they are entitled to the rewards as they gained levels so they could use it and think that any nerf is robbery. The amount of support emails related to the faucet is staggering and has made it harder and harder to finish more important ones in a timely manner.
The key way to sort out this situation in my opinion is creating a system which rewards people with higher levels without being as expensive/gimmicky as the faucet. Ideally I want to make the faucet a minigame that can be played once or twice a day with scaling rewards based on level.
What about removing the faucet system completely, and use the bitcoin saved to lower the house edge % for everyone? Or may be a higher level account will have a lower house edge % instead?
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StopGG
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October 04, 2014, 03:15:46 PM |
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Some people only use chat because they want more faucet, and other invest in the game cause they want more faucet, if you change or remove the faucet , the people who was playing to lvl up, will be "scammed".
I know, it's free money, but too much people plays only for faucet and invests a lot of time and money.
I think you have to find something right for primedice and the users.
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snarlpill
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October 04, 2014, 03:17:25 PM |
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The amount of support emails related to the faucet is staggering and has made it harder and harder to finish more important ones in a timely manner.
Maybe you just need to make a separate Support email for faucet problems, possibly FaucetBitching@primedice.com, that way the important issues that need resolving are not lost and/or delayed greatly. 
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llanillo
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October 04, 2014, 03:40:20 PM |
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Stuck on "loading the world most popular bitcoin game" ..... i really want to try this website
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snarlpill
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October 04, 2014, 03:43:14 PM |
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Stuck on "loading the world most popular bitcoin game" ..... i really want to try this website
Try going directly to https://primedice.com/playIf that doesn't work then try Google Chrome browser if you are not already.
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llanillo
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October 04, 2014, 03:53:22 PM |
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Stuck on "loading the world most popular bitcoin game" ..... i really want to try this website
Try going directly to https://primedice.com/playIf that doesn't work then try Google Chrome browser if you are not already. Thanks that link works for me
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BAGOBO
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October 04, 2014, 04:33:04 PM |
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are send from blockchain using custom ? and you forget to fill your fee ?
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marcell99
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October 04, 2014, 04:37:56 PM |
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are send from blockchain using custom ? and you forget to fill your fee ? No I used the normal sending page, I don't know what happened, I waited an hour and checked what is going on, then realized it doesn't have fee. I know it's the problem why it's not confirmed, but my money is at primedice.
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MICRO
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October 04, 2014, 07:07:21 PM |
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are send from blockchain using custom ? and you forget to fill your fee ? No I used the normal sending page, I don't know what happened, I waited an hour and checked what is going on, then realized it doesn't have fee. I know it's the problem why it's not confirmed, but my money is at primedice. Maybe ur blockchain wallet is set to send minimal fee, and if tx was rly small , it could think it doesn't need fee to get confirmed. I think it will confirm but if it doesn't it will get back to ur wallet after 72h i think. If it confirms it will land to ur balance.
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jjc326
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October 04, 2014, 07:08:52 PM |
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Some people only use chat because they want more faucet, and other invest in the game cause they want more faucet, if you change or remove the faucet , the people who was playing to lvl up, will be "scammed".
I know, it's free money, but too much people plays only for faucet and invests a lot of time and money.
I think you have to find something right for primedice and the users.
I am a fan of the site but this is what I've been saying all along with every lowering of the faucet or making it harder to get that has been done.
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KingOfSports
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October 04, 2014, 07:40:52 PM |
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I think its bullshit that Stunna has the ability to go and red flag EVERY NEW DICE SITE ADMIN. Calling them a scam with no evidence. Red flagging and hurting the competition. Honestly, its about as low as going to each business and burning them down. Wouldn't be surprised if PrimeDice was responsible for DDOS attacks somewhere in the past. Shady, shady, SHADY.
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MICRO
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October 04, 2014, 10:11:56 PM |
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WOW. What a run for Hufflepuff ... His peak at 262btc : 
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chalidore
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October 04, 2014, 10:15:32 PM |
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I think its bullshit that Stunna has the ability to go and red flag EVERY NEW DICE SITE ADMIN. Calling them a scam with no evidence. Red flagging and hurting the competition. Honestly, its about as low as going to each business and burning them down. Wouldn't be surprised if PrimeDice was responsible for DDOS attacks somewhere in the past. Shady, shady, SHADY.
It is bullshit and reality. Lot of people received his money so he has lot of supporters here. No one even dares to question him and PD any more and seems there is lot of issues and scam accusations towards PD. Those 100BTC that got stolen, seems all is handled unprofessionally. Wish he was more like dooglus, giving bad trust or good trust only when really deserved.
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chalidore
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October 04, 2014, 10:20:18 PM |
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WOW. What a run for Hufflepuff ... His peak at 262btc :  These are really pointless, as far as I'm concerned it's stunna playing those rolls or some of his admins. It's funny how no one from this forum reports big wins. I would like to see "Hufflepuff" posting this from his own sr. Member account.
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