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Author Topic: Primedice.com | Since 2013 | Longest Running Crypto Casino | 113 BTC Jackpot!  (Read 1989138 times)
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November 02, 2014, 02:18:52 AM
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still it looks like rollin LO get payed more than HI.

if it is because "The multiplier actually runs longer than the 3 decimal places that are visible." this should be stated somewhere. i mean its not much but it is still something players might wanna know
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November 02, 2014, 02:21:09 AM
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All those bet sizes are 12 btc and the multipliers are all 3x, why is the profit for "under bet" is 24 btc while the profit for "over bet" is 23.99988?
It's all down to fractions that aren't visible from the main window.  The multiplier actually runs longer than the 3 decimal places that are visible.

I see. So it is in fact more likely to win an "over 3x" bet than an "under 3x" bet. Tongue
Thanks for your explanation.

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November 02, 2014, 02:23:12 AM
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Huffle made it above 700 BTC profit just a bit ago, but is back down again.  Setting records this weekend, I'm sure.

Are you telling me that I'm missing the show again?
Fuck this!

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November 02, 2014, 02:46:38 AM
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Why does everybody keep assuming all high rollers are AK?  There is more than one person with hundreds of BTC, you know.

True. From what I can sense, he is not AKcoinminer.
I don't even think he's a miner at all.

First of all, I think AK lost everything he had. He still says he had other accounts on profit, on many sites, but I think those profits eventually went to his main PD account and led to his disgrace.

Second, this is a max profit flat betting (sorry if I'm not correct on the max bet, but I can't publicly find PD limits). He is searching for the famous gambler's fallacy that will allow him to roll waiting for a streak. And its upcoming unexpected variance on the long.
He's actually closer to nakowa, the famous JD game changer, except way less crazy. AK never bet like that.

Huffle knows when to stop, when to pause, and when to keep going - not always, but I'll get to that.
If he has a bad session, he goes away. Because he plays a 4x bet, at least lately, he's allowed to mainly risk profits, if he hits them.
For every winning bet he gets, there are two chances to go further with the same bet only risking profit gains.. If he wins one of the two, he makes 6,5k. Winning both is 13k USD. Nice, right?
After that the tree expands, bringing him to an absolutely impressive run.

While risking profits he hits what a 4x bet session can do. Losing quite a lot in a few bets only to get back with an impressive payback if he hits a streak.

But he also gets to hit a bad run of 8 to 9 reds, which is around 100 BTC (three hundred fucking k). Then he pauses only to resume what he knows it's inevitable: a streak of greens under the flat bet of 4x, covering his losses and bringing him up to a new ATH.
If he does not, he stops. Or pauses, at least. Let the algo get going and join it later. Rolls still hate him? Then he definitely stops.

He proved to have enough bank to lose and win back 100's at a time. Tonight, he won 100 BTC, then lost 100, then won 100 again. So why not?

Please keep in mind I have not seen him play with 0 profit. It's easier to risk betting on 400 BTC profit than at a lost.
Please feel free to share if you have noticed his first steps in PD.

Anyway, what is crazy for me is that he found a way of sticking to his sessions quite safely, something I find quite impressive for somebody that bets this amount every bet.
However, IMO he still bets too fast, I wonder if that is connected to the impression of somehow following a streak. Or mainly despair of instant win or instant run reversal.

From everyone I've seen playing the rolls, except if we ignore nakowa, he is by far the best one trying to take advantage of the fallacy, and his 4x bet makes a lot of sense when you get to think of it.
Only thing is, I believe he would make more profit with lower bets on the long run (having that bankroll and cold blood). Yet, I also believe that he would totally destroy PD if he had a bit more balls.

At least he's not risking 32BTC to win 1 or 2, like some miners do.

Gambling is fascinating.

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On a side note, I plead PD support team to answer my emails on time.
Changes or updates are being made many times without official notice on the PD website itself. Which leads some of the users to deposit under DDoS or other unpractical conditions for a fair game.
Please bear with some of the players that cannot visit this thread regularly for updates. A small notice on the gambling mechanism itself would be much appreciated.
Note that not everyone is aware of the technical impediments for a good roll when the site is a bit shaky, so please try to explain this in broad terms to new users.
Thanks.


So yeah, won and lost 200 btc tonight (or slightly less, wtf)



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November 02, 2014, 04:22:23 AM
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November 02, 2014, 04:28:53 AM
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On a side note, I plead PD support team to answer my emails on time.
Changes or updates are being made many times without official notice on the PD website itself. Which leads some of the users to deposit under DDoS or other unpractical conditions for a fair game.
Please bear with some of the players that cannot visit this thread regularly for updates. A small notice on the gambling mechanism itself would be much appreciated.
Note that not everyone is aware of the technical impediments for a good roll when the site is a bit shaky, so please try to explain this in broad terms to new users.
Thanks.

This to be addressed.

Won't bump again, pm for email if needed.
Thanks.

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November 02, 2014, 06:41:10 AM
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better update your posts



puffys is at +957 BTC
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November 02, 2014, 07:42:48 AM
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better update your posts



puffys is at +957 BTC

currently hes at +729 BTC

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November 02, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
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Second, this is a max profit flat betting (sorry if I'm not correct on the max bet, but I can't publicly find PD limits).

I'm told the PD limit is max payout (stake+profit) = 40 BTC.
So at 3x, max bet would be 13.3333 BTC.

It's weird from the screenshot how 3x pays out differently whether you roll hi or lo. He's winning 24 BTC when he rolls low, but only 23.99988 when he rolls high. Is this some kind of rounding error?

Huffle knows when to stop, when to pause, and when to keep going

You realise that "pausing" has no effect, right?

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November 02, 2014, 08:14:05 AM
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Second, this is a max profit flat betting (sorry if I'm not correct on the max bet, but I can't publicly find PD limits).

I'm told the PD limit is max payout (stake+profit) = 40 BTC.
So at 3x, max bet would be 13.3333 BTC.

It's weird from the screenshot how 3x pays out differently whether you roll hi or lo. He's winning 24 BTC when he rolls low, but only 23.99988 when he rolls high. Is this some kind of rounding error?

Huffle knows when to stop, when to pause, and when to keep going

You realise that "pausing" has no effect, right?
I was noticing that error as well. Whenever he bet over it wouldn't pay him the full 3x yet the screen says the payout is 3x the wager if the bet is a winner. For under it always paid him in full. Def bug that needs to be fixed. Could be at least 0.10 or more BTC not paid to Hufflepuff from this bug, but whats a gas tank to him when hes betting thousands every click haha.

Stunna knows hufflepuff is going to lose it all, he doesn't stop ever. Not +500, Not +750 and not +1000+, the highest anyone has ever been up on PD...
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November 02, 2014, 08:59:23 AM
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Hufflepuff is up 945.97304 BTC almost 1k
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November 02, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
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so its fair game? Huh
and and why very slow on autobet?
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November 02, 2014, 10:03:32 AM
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so its fair game? Huh
and and why very slow on autobet?

Yes it is provably fair. You can set your client seed by clicking the second bottom button on the left (the one above the faucet button).
You can find the code for bet verification on https://primedice.com/verify

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November 02, 2014, 10:21:48 AM
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Hufflepuff is now on 15,335.92668 BTC  Roll Eyes

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November 02, 2014, 10:35:53 AM
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this is last stat from the mighty hufflepuff

Total
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885.97064000



take a rest for a while and will ready to bet again

soon  Grin
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November 02, 2014, 11:28:10 AM
Last edit: November 02, 2014, 01:42:11 PM by omahapoker
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BTW puffy is not AK.



AK is not puffy. AK is really getting his shit together.




he doesn't gamble at the moment. but will when JD 2.0.1 comes out






 
sidenote. sorry for busting your chops last night stunna.


i reailize you were going thur mid life crisis and things could have changed your life forever.I'll try not being a dick next time.



cant make no promises though....
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November 02, 2014, 02:35:16 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2014, 03:08:26 PM by Cyrax89721
 #11157

Second, this is a max profit flat betting (sorry if I'm not correct on the max bet, but I can't publicly find PD limits).
It's weird from the screenshot how 3x pays out differently whether you roll hi or lo. He's winning 24 BTC when he rolls low, but only 23.99988 when he rolls high. Is this some kind of rounding error?

The "Over" Chance is actually 33.01000000000001%.  I might have misplaced the first and last '1' but that's apparently where "Over 66.99" sits as opposed to the straight 33% that 'Under 33.00" is.
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November 02, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
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November 02, 2014, 03:27:42 PM
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Second, this is a max profit flat betting (sorry if I'm not correct on the max bet, but I can't publicly find PD limits).
It's weird from the screenshot how 3x pays out differently whether you roll hi or lo. He's winning 24 BTC when he rolls low, but only 23.99988 when he rolls high. Is this some kind of rounding error?

The "Over" Chance is actually 33.01000000000001%.  I might have misplaced the first and last '1' but that's apparently where "Over 66.99" sits as opposed to the straight 33% that 'Under 33.00" is.

No , its over 66.99 coz its not posible to roll 100 it goes to 99.99 .

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November 02, 2014, 03:29:33 PM
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Second, this is a max profit flat betting (sorry if I'm not correct on the max bet, but I can't publicly find PD limits).
It's weird from the screenshot how 3x pays out differently whether you roll hi or lo. He's winning 24 BTC when he rolls low, but only 23.99988 when he rolls high. Is this some kind of rounding error?

The "Over" Chance is actually 33.01000000000001%.  I might have misplaced the first and last '1' but that's apparently where "Over 66.99" sits as opposed to the straight 33% that 'Under 33.00" is.

To quote the provably fair page at PrimeDice:

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The resulting number 0-999,999 is applied a modulus of 10^4, to obtain a roll number 0-9999, and divided by 10^2 to result a 0-99.99 number.

So there are 10,000 possible different rolls, each with the same probability. 00.00 through 99.99.

Of the 10,000 possible rolls, 3300 of them are under 33.00 (00.00 through 32.99 inclusive) and 3300 of them are over 66.99 (67.00 through 99.99 inclusive) so they both have a 33% chance of winning and should both pay out 3x (99/33) for a 1% house edge.

So the payout is wrong. It is being paid out as if the chance of winning was 33.00011%, which it isn't:

>>> 99/(23.99988/12+1)
33.00011

So it's only a small error in this case. It would be good to understand why it is happening, and whether the error is more significant in other cases. Multiplication by 3 should be relatively easy to get right.

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