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November 17, 2017, 11:52:20 PM
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It has been little over 2 weeks from the end of the ICO. We spent some time trying to get VOT to exchanges, some time recruiting more work force and now we have finally jumped on development. We collected only fraction of the necessary funds during ICO and we did NOT reach our milestone for GUI Wallet. But we want to continue on this project, since we are convinced that the idea of using VoteCoin for public voting, crowd funding and opinion surveys has big potential. Unfortunately due to lack in financing, things may go little bit slower.

We agree with your suggestions that our top priority should be VoteCoin GUI Wallet now.

There are several possible ways to go:

1) The Quick way - we can fork or extend some existing software, such as https://github.com/zencashio/eleos and release it as VOT Wallet. We're not willing to go this way, since such wallet brings no new features to VoteCoin. We prefer to focus on developing our own software. But if there is a community member who wants to try this, we will surely support that effort by providing links from our website to such fork.

2) The Satisfactory way - we can develop a solution to provide some sort of GUI on top of the text-mode wallet. Technically, you would still need to run the text-mode wallet as you do it now, and at the same time you would be able to access the most common features through your web browser, which would communicate with the textmode wallet. This way we could create appealing GUI wallet in a reasonable time, but this would be a bit uncomfortable and unprofessional. On the other hand, the code implemented for this solution could be mostly reused for our final GUI wallet too, so we may be able to do this within the next few weeks.

3) The Best way - we prefer to continue developing VoteCoin GUI wallet with all the features we want (especially the voting) in Electron, or similar multi-platform framework. Our dev team estimates that this will take few months to be completed and properly tested. We hope to provide such wallet in first quarter of 2018.


Made just swing wallet, like ZEN have, without any special features.
Go at least to few exchanges, it's totally crazy what you still have only 1 exchange and it added VOT by himself.

And after that develop GUI wallet with all the features.

Otherwise by the time you'll release the wallet it will not help VOT to became alive.

We tend to disagree. Listings on exchanges do not ensure whether the coin is alive or dead. Don't get us wrong, we would like VOT to be listed on as many exchanges as possible. We did our best to get VOT listed at several exchanges (small and big ones). But please understand that it is not our decision not to be listed, it relies solely on exchange decision which coin they list! Show us other coins that started from scratch, are 1 month old and already have listings on major exchanges.

For example look what happened to Bitcoinz. After listing on C-cex price went down from 150 sat to 11 sat. This shows, that listing on multiple exchanges will not help coin to grow. What will help to grow value of the coin is finished product which users will use. Once we have finished product, people will start using it, creating demand for VOT and this is the time when exchanges will start listing VOT. To be honest, without working product we seriously doubt any major exchange would list VOT.

And we are working hard to have our product (wallet with voting feature) finished as soon as possible.
I agree with you about the product. Without normal ideas and the finished product on any exchange, the maximum that can be worn on a few UPS and oblivion. The current rate leaves no choice to the participants of the ICO. To wait, to hope and to believe.
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November 18, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
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November 20, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
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Any information about the new exchange?

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November 20, 2017, 10:48:06 AM
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Any information about the new exchange?
In general, there is little communication in this topic, no one supports interest in the crypto community.
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November 20, 2017, 12:02:54 PM
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My thoughts !

If you wanted to make a really great voting coin, but you wanted to avoid Ethereum (because value and function have been conflated) you should implement Rootstock off the side of an independent coin, which has value, but not necessarily tied to Ethereum or some other large coin.

Let the market decide what value it has (one vote for VOT) but give it better technology to represent the voting functionality (Rootstock like technology)

Anyone care to dance ?
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November 20, 2017, 07:33:42 PM
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I'd still select bitcoin as a long term investment since i believe bitcoin is crypto which has the highest price among other types of crypto I say this is because bitcoin is an image for any crypto which is right from the start so far bitcoin nevertheless exhibits its existence because ht best crypto and the most choices for investors who want to invest dikripto. a forecaster states bitcoin continuously increase its price by the end of the entire year. and eth is going to be only a 2nd alternative choice of traders for expense dikripto so I believe you need to much better select bitcoin for long-phrase expense.e

It depends on whether you want a functional coin that has value that is not necessarily linked with BTC. It is not certain that BTC will be the highest increase in value as a percentage since its market cap is already high. An altcoin can easily get a 1000% improvement in value. Perhaps it is better to keep value separate from function.

If you used RSK with bitcoin you would get the association with Bitcoin value and the functionality of smart contracts
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November 22, 2017, 01:56:54 AM
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I don't see any future of this coin because it we use crypto for voting then one person can vote many time with many different wallet address.
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On Eurovision they seem to vote from mobile, for money, but you can have as many mobile / sim / voices as you like. That is, for projects where voting takes place in the format of obtaining cash benefits for the show or something else, this type of voting using coins and purses is even more suitable in view of less time spent for the voters. In fact, no matter how many people supported, the main thing is how much money was received. And for voting at the political level, it will naturally be necessary to develop the idea substantially.
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November 22, 2017, 07:41:20 AM
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Did you make a decision yet about the Votecoin GUI wallet? Have been out of the loop for some time now.
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November 22, 2017, 09:35:45 AM
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Good afternoon, developers!
Are there any news? How the project is progressing, what has been done?
You forgot about your users?  Cry
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November 22, 2017, 09:36:49 AM
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Any information about the new exchange?

Wall Street soon.
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November 22, 2017, 11:29:17 AM
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Any information about the new exchange?

Wall Street soon.
Well, that would be nice.
But for now dev teams should post some news, roadmap goals and progress maybe.
Maybe some bar with current step progress. For example GUI wallet, even alternative. But users should know the progress if they invest their power and money to VOTE.
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November 22, 2017, 11:50:09 AM
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For now devs are relaxing somewhere with ICO money, so we should also relaxing, but w/o money...

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November 22, 2017, 11:52:17 AM
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dev ,we need exchanges ,any movement of this ,just tell us what's your plan?
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November 22, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
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dev ,we need exchanges ,any movement of this ,just tell us what's your plan?
Why do we need an exchange? There is one. But the price will not go higher with another one or two.
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November 22, 2017, 01:42:35 PM
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I don't see any future of this coin because it we use crypto for voting then one person can vote many time with many different wallet address.
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The voting model is not released yet but you bury it already. We even don't know all features and functionality of Votecoin. The project should developed step by step according the roadmap. I hope we will see great product enough soon. I think 4-6 month

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November 22, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
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dev ,we need exchanges ,any movement of this ,just tell us what's your plan?
Why do we need an exchange? There is one. But the price will not go higher with another one or two.

We second that. Being listed on more exchanges does not increase value of the coin. The product people will use does!

That does not mean we are not trying to get VOT listed by more exchanges, but it's not as easy as most of you probably think:

VOT team: "Hey, would you list our coin on your exchange."
Exchange: "Sure thing! What problem does your coin solve?"
VOT team: "Uhm.. well, it does nothing, but we plan to add some cool stuff."
Exchange: "That's cool bro, we'll list your coin tomorrow."
VOT team: "Thanks a million!"
Exchange: "No problem man. Email us with your new coins anytime."

It really does not work like that. Smiley

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November 22, 2017, 03:29:16 PM
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dev ,we need exchanges ,any movement of this ,just tell us what's your plan?

imho, we don't need exchanges
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November 22, 2017, 03:32:25 PM
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dev ,we need exchanges ,any movement of this ,just tell us what's your plan?
Why do we need an exchange? There is one. But the price will not go higher with another one or two.

We second that. Being listed on more exchanges does not increase value of the coin. The product people will use does!

That does not mean we are not trying to get VOT listed by more exchanges, but it's not as easy as most of you probably think:

VOT team: "Hey, would you list our coin on your exchange."
Exchange: "Sure thing! What problem does your coin solve?"
VOT team: "Uhm.. well, it does nothing, but we plan to add some cool stuff."
Exchange: "That's cool bro, we'll list your coin tomorrow."
VOT team: "Thanks a million!"
Exchange: "No problem man. Email us with your new coins anytime."

It really does not work like that. Smiley

Great example, and I totally agree. Concentrate on making a product that people want, not spoof hype around nothing.

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November 22, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
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It really does not work like that. Smiley

Great example, and I totally agree. Concentrate on making a product that people want, not spoof hype around nothing.

But we do need some demonstration of activity . You guys would not get so much earache if you actually communicated with your community - or what remains of it. Simply saying "something coming" is only gonna work for so long.

  • So Yobit - nothing happened - was it the exchange or maybe it was never submitted. Why is that ? The problem is not one less exchange listing but WHY it was ignored by Yobit !!!
  • Wallet - You offered 3 options as week or so ago, but nothing more - Is that it now until christmas or 2018?
  • SLAX - You intimated at some form form of cross fertilisation - What is that - we have heard nothing more
  • Great voting features - but no other detail - Be more specific ! At least an idea

Just enough tidbits to stop a complete dump but not enough for any form of commitment

I am considering producing my own coin some time soon and you guys are teaching me a great lesson - guess what that is ?

Thanks Smiley
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November 22, 2017, 10:36:55 PM
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It really does not work like that. Smiley

Great example, and I totally agree. Concentrate on making a product that people want, not spoof hype around nothing.

But we do need some demonstration of activity . You guys would not get so much earache if you actually communicated with your community - or what remains of it. Simply saying "something coming" is only gonna work for so long.

  • So Yobit - nothing happened - was it the exchange or maybe it was never submitted. Why is that ? The problem is not one less exchange listing but WHY it was ignored by Yobit !!!
  • Wallet - You offered 3 options as week or so ago, but nothing more - Is that it now until christmas or 2018?
  • SLAX - You intimated at some form form of cross fertilisation - What is that - we have heard nothing more
  • Great voting features - but no other detail - Be more specific ! At least an idea

Just enough tidbits to stop a complete dump but not enough for any form of commitment

I am considering producing my own coin some time soon and you guys are teaching me a great lesson - guess what that is ?

Thanks Smiley


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