[ANN] Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0

[iamwagner]

Long time MNE holder here, have already made 10x my investment on this coin alone(so not just some random bag-holder). Have also used  the VERY useful and cool Minereum Token Creation service without a hitch (which coins even HAVE currently working services to them again? more often they don't as of yet).

I truly believe in this project but the amount of obviously timed and blatant FUD on this coin and the current Artemine ICO is just plain preposterous. Even if hypothetically the devs held many of the genesis addresses like MusclePUMP(The term "pump" in the name should be a dead giveaway to the real intentions of this guy off-the-bat tbh, which is purely FUD and here-say with little to no actual facts just allot of implying as to who owns what address for whatever reason he chooses to come up with) how many coins currently MUCH more successful than  Minereum have already HUGE developer percentage "pre-mines" and even up to HALF THE ENTIRE STACK to the devs name and no one else (much like coins such as Ripple have been attested to have) or even just a very small % of the coins themselves in actual circulation vs. wherever the rest is located in various circumstances (Being "held" by the devs as well, or just in oblivion somewhere to no one's knowledge as to where) or even in the case with ETH where Vitalik himself was known to have, and DID sell a good chunk of his stack of ETH (albeit at a MUCH lower price as it is now), no one is calling any of these projects pure "scamcoins", so the point still remains that calling Minereum or even worse, Artemine, "just a SCAM" is a blatant and preposterously bad FUD attempt made by some no-namer *PUMP N DUMP* coiner who just wants to manipulate the price for himself or whatever else he has to gain from attempting to throw shade onto an otherwise legitimate and good project with actual progress being made as to it's development in mere MONTHS of it's very existence vs. other coins which sometimes take YEARS to reach fruition of the *Proof-of-concept* efforts the coin itself was meant to have been seen making happen in real-life from the developers standpoint.

In a nutshell, this is pathetic FUDing hardcore if I've ever seen it at a more-than-opportune time to FUD and stand to gain from the lower prices of pumping and dumping on yet another ICO project leaving many bag-holders in it's wake and people are actually falling for it. Please, please , PLEASE end this poo-show and let's get back to the business of actually helping support  development of an actually GOOD COIN WITH HATERS AND ACTIVE FUDDERS ALL OVER IT ACTING MERELY OUT OF WANT FOR THEIR OWN STUPID REASONS AND GAINS. Kudos to all investors and the developers themselves for putting up with this stuff and continuing their work on this great project.  

This reads like a commercial.  Nice try Minereum/Artemine dev team.  This is almost as pathetic as the blackmail email you deleted after you realized how photoshopped it was.  

Post count of 2.  Dead giveaway.  What a scammer this guy is. 

[IsraelSkunkWorks]

Love how these guys are actively monitoring this tread just to respond LOL

So what's the motivation here? You guys just want to 'protect' people from the evil Minereum developers only looking to scam people which is NEVER heard of in crypto in general or no one has EVER encountered before in the history of ICOs so THANKFULLY YOU GUYS are here to tell people the truth ? Right.....hahahahaha

You guys make it too obvious that there's other motivations involved with this, otherwise why would you go to all this trouble over one coin? Just don't invest in it if you don't like it jeez

[802529er]

Love how these guys are actively monitoring this tread just to respond LOL

So what's the motivation here? You guys just want to 'protect' people from the evil Minereum developers only looking to scam people which is NEVER heard of in crypto in general or no one has EVER encountered before in the history of ICOs so THANKFULLY YOU GUYS are here to tell people the truth ? Right.....hahahahaha

You guys make it too obvious that there's other motivations involved with this, otherwise why would you go to all this trouble over one coin? Just don't invest in it if you don't like it jeez

Okay, just some tips when your trying to lick the boots of your master.

Post other places to get above newbie, and don’t use an account less then two months old.

People around here know what a shill looks like, and boy are there some shills in this thread.

Yeah we have notifys on so if the dev actually responds ( GOOD JOKE ) we can finally see what he has to say, until then we’ll make sure that on every page there’s messages asking critical questions and pointing out he issues with MNE and ART.

[802529er]

I thought that thanks to ICO of Atremine, the price of MNE will increase. But that did not happen. Why? Who invested the majority of MNE?

We have a good idea who, read back a few pages and you’ll see

[niceli]

I can only speak for myself, but I am very disapointed with how this situation and in general this ICO is being handled by the dev. There is talk of different teams, yet we don't know a single Person/face belonging to either of those teams.

I think I will count this as a loss.

[JimmyGTO]

After reading this thread I wont be investing in Arte, I'm out.

[muhlambo]

After reading this thread I wont be investing in Arte, I'm out.

lol.. you should read more than one person's whining comments, basically just spammed no-proofs all over the places here

[802529er]

After reading this thread I wont be investing in Arte, I'm out.

lol.. you should read more than one person's whining comments, basically just spammed no-proofs all over the places here

Actually multiple members have raised concerns throughout all 40 pages of this thread with zero response from the dev, it’s not just one person and it’s quite naive to think it is.

[sectorzet]

Friends, your conversation is empty. Arte has a great potential, but obviosly we'll see it in 3 weeks.

[2012]

Friends, your conversation is empty. Arte has a great potential, but obviosly we'll see it in 3 weeks.

Indeed it happening around us with all promising project but but much hard to understand the people behavior. Actually there are a lot of trolls into this thread and on other side dev is silence in current situation that's why new people are confused to take decision. 

[goodman4hire]

Friends, your conversation is empty. Arte has a great potential, but obviosly we'll see it in 3 weeks.

Yup real empty.  Are you kidding me?  You think that there is absolutely nothing to talk about and this is on the up and up?  Now see the the big blackmail emails over on the other thread.  Seems low class to post that out here.  Seems desperate.  

The Minereum/Artemine (ArteCrime) dev team has also answered 0 question.

Also have you seen the white paper?  It looks like a child did it.  There is absolutely nothing to the Artemine project that we know about in any detail and your attempting to hype it?  Come on now.

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WARNING
 LONG POST, please read until the end before making a decision...... also please read with an open mind set..

I'm no way saying this project is a scam... the information i'm about to provide is details i believe we should've all known, that we should've been told about from the beginning. With the lack of communication from the dev, its apon the community to find crucial details that should be made public. I'm about to provide some addresses that are of concern and explain my findings so everyone can see for themselves.

I'm going to start with an obvious one alot of people noticed during the first day of ico.
0x03b7c8d1f3974565150cf15d15543e1af59a0e85
here is an address that was used to fund eth (gas) to 816 gen. addresses then, all those addresses sent all there mne to ico... all instantly by using a bot. you do the math 816 addresses all 243mne thats around 200k mne into ico during last hour of day one.... best thing yet all addresses were completely inactive before this......

that is an easy one to see.. all it shows is someone has 816 addresses, never used it until last hour of day one ico and decided to dump into the arte

now we are getting alot more complex..... 36 days ago a bot pulled all the unused eth(gas) from over 5k addresses... that is the link.... now within those 5k addresses you will find hundreds of what i call "burner" addresses... these regular eth addresses group mne gen addresses together to send a larger amount of mne to certain places...this now links thousands of gen addresses to a single person.. how many to be exact, idk i cant keep count nor do i want to spend the time but everything provided below will be linked to that same address that collected the eth...

here is the address used to collect eth
0xaae9df016092cefde18f3918a9a73ad8fe0eb1a0

here are some burner addresses that have large amounts mne from gen address
0x77612c9da071b4481a4e1bdd9c614c6472b749b6
0xF032CE9B154be7329C4c7C8F0031D15aeff451ee
0xFE0208942675E3e0c5D12742ea8abaeA8F48F81F
0xabEa2b2beCC4c7335F0E5ee937214311AD795333
0x2DA502D602EbA3a656222fC861947a29771F3bAa
0x69Af051CDBc71fc7b2e757c399De779Dc3173737
0x971c5f32b2625f1b781291f082B722c82803403C
0x5D14F6F0A094c6706dd0A73aC889AA448E51017D


here is an address used to dump into live coin right as mne hit ath..... this also ties 100 gen addresses together
0xaE641Cc64f35AE1C3E0eD58D03Fea4885dfC307F

here is a burner address used for mne durning ATH and also arte ICO.... another 170 address linked together
0xcede51a076712196dcab014742616ac65e56673f

wonder why mne hit a low right when ico hit.. here is an addy sent to livecoin right before ico
0xcea94e97bd00dcadc94b13cfa2bbc1932e88b5a5

second day of ico???
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61

just not large amount of gen addresses pair... even smaller amounts to hide the link...
0xe603CB1fAd1f5Eb0B62CB48bF0049a9E803e5A22
0xe20c2ec41b6881ddc1e43602063c6cf3ff2876d8

another big burner address being sent to livecoin
0xf032ce9b154be7329c4c7c8f0031d15aeff451ee

what do all these have in common?Huh look at the eth transaction... 36 days ago a bot took the left over eth out and sent to a single address.... all of these are linked together by that address..... and thats not even close to it.... what about the first deposits into livecoin....first addresses to deposit were all from a single source... dont believe me... check for yourself
0xe2f9484c422f393dc48d791e8cf1d17aa9713995
0x217EE4aFC8F8c0bB57075273ac2C264202305E12
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0xdC19457530b9a60808Ed60125273335e4160DfC5
0x1545d607723ffDe90B79b786b2cDe7277a79F5F8
0x4AA8252e42e1d41b41Fec1D368Ce17c98A808802
0xF0019be307F7756e45d6bfB0F5cc4BA2500274d8
0xc6e7853B83709e716aADD4B2b4c4CB51Bf8cf4cd
 0x7A638B9eD6471fE8Ffa08d9ffbD18aA13052a896
0x1624e4Afa6642D533A56DD5e97Cebc54dE9cC2eD
 0x7d08e8851DDA46C27bEefe3b644520A9a3Bc228E
0xB3a6b21ECc8eC69eE66FC26a77fa624A8c8126f9
0xa61Ab4398B9Ec923Ba02c575d97a9Cd86D390d7f
0x30c72242EaC5a89e8a5613F7c0CA872aF08176e2
0x69a3510902B7DEb6A290667D6514F5b82829DD77
0xdC19457530b9a60808Ed60125273335e4160DfC5
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x9FF95361dd77CACb55d74d94348e60f0691F0f54
0xf280De47b474E1eAA942ae539Dd9Be570d43Ec1E
0x3f2700b9D800096f598736b643891CD74816CC98
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0x57D626c7a3a100A9C659601D3bd073225F3D43f3
0xc3d4114F5aedf579dd5E656B8Da23dca8A62a80f
0xED4F292bb7f85ccEB564613bebA41D5306f0E2fd
 0x8b092Af6dc3cA8654b00186CEEae2C0197B02deE
 0xb718Be046D4E6302eee08a06F65B9C1778C227FE
0x7A638B9eD6471fE8Ffa08d9ffbD18aA13052a896
0x15dc6BeBBD91AE7B96c0D0e5671539470b026611
0xE7689B56aD80D1834C6DCB2105A14A4Ca30b17e9
0x00d0c98ed04dec0cffe571a9deed871feabc34f6
 0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x7b247822De8763C3CDa86b5680E14f3A20B78B98    
0x77612C9Da071b4481a4E1bdD9c614C6472B749B6
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x8fD10Ac278badB13a2e296f2EEe06bfCDcCa9378
0x69a3510902B7DEb6A290667D6514F5b82829DD77
0x00D0C98ed04DEC0cFFe571A9DeeD871feAbC34F6
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x396BD4FB0708A847298e7C32CFc1c91F342Eb5A5
0xa459DCED416eFAdcecfa3A0E8bA99Dcad358EdcD   -------1 coin deposits
0x69Af051CDBc71fc7b2e757c399De779Dc3173737
0x28B5Bd9dE137342240E0A404d6F13a7a3121c415
0x9FF95361dd77CACb55d74d94348e60f0691F0f54
0xfcD9309aB791F1aB6cda79c1EDe24E8B342Fad2D
0xc3d4114F5aedf579dd5E656B8Da23dca8A62a80f
0x9b6A2FAB03D506BEd470D7Fea67D23E53E52DDeC



wanna take some more research yourself... go to mne gen address list... pick ANY random address and i bet MOST will link to the ETH addresses i provided

i said most.. why??? a few reasons... like the first example i gave you... those 816 addresses dont link.. why... they were inactive 36 days ago... also one more address that doesnt link but has 128 addresses in a single burner address ready to be sent....
0xC40B312169c7F8d93679EF1E91da989693cB5f93

all this really shows is that 1 person might have close to all of the mne gen addresses... or maybe a few people have almost all of them.... more money for the project some might say.. i dont really care... what im trying to give you is the information you HAVENT been given.... please look around and tell me what i missed

[MrPuffnStuff]

Long time MNE holder here, have already made 10x my investment on this coin alone(so not just some random bag-holder). Have also used  the VERY useful and cool Minereum Token Creation service without a hitch (which coins even HAVE currently working services to them again? more often they don't as of yet).

I truly believe in this project but the amount of obviously timed and blatant FUD on this coin and the current Artemine ICO is just plain preposterous. Even if hypothetically the devs held many of the genesis addresses like MusclePUMP(The term "pump" in the name should be a dead giveaway to the real intentions of this guy off-the-bat tbh, which is purely FUD and here-say with little to no actual facts just allot of implying as to who owns what address for whatever reason he chooses to come up with) how many coins currently MUCH more successful than  Minereum have already HUGE developer percentage "pre-mines" and even up to HALF THE ENTIRE STACK to the devs name and no one else (much like coins such as Ripple have been attested to have) or even just a very small % of the coins themselves in actual circulation vs. wherever the rest is located in various circumstances (Being "held" by the devs as well, or just in oblivion somewhere to no one's knowledge as to where) or even in the case with ETH where Vitalik himself was known to have, and DID sell a good chunk of his stack of ETH (albeit at a MUCH lower price as it is now), no one is calling any of these projects pure "scamcoins", so the point still remains that calling Minereum or even worse, Artemine, "just a SCAM" is a blatant and preposterously bad FUD attempt made by some no-namer *PUMP N DUMP* coiner who just wants to manipulate the price for himself or whatever else he has to gain from attempting to throw shade onto an otherwise legitimate and good project with actual progress being made as to it's development in mere MONTHS of it's very existence vs. other coins which sometimes take YEARS to reach fruition of the *Proof-of-concept* efforts the coin itself was meant to have been seen making happen in real-life from the developers standpoint.

In a nutshell, this is pathetic FUDing hardcore if I've ever seen it at a more-than-opportune time to FUD and stand to gain from the lower prices of pumping and dumping on yet another ICO project leaving many bag-holders in it's wake and people are actually falling for it. Please, please , PLEASE end this poo-show and let's get back to the business of actually helping support  development of an actually GOOD COIN WITH HATERS AND ACTIVE FUDDERS ALL OVER IT ACTING MERELY OUT OF WANT FOR THEIR OWN STUPID REASONS AND GAINS. Kudos to all investors and the developers themselves for putting up with this stuff and continuing their work on this great project.  

Oh no! Someone else isn't buying the FUD guys, IAMWAGNER add him to your hitlist!!! This is turning into a sad joke...

[cryptogangsta]

Wow with fud this strong we should all buy more.

Who cares if the devs are anonymous, this is crypto.  Anonymity and privacy is a key part of that.  Maybe they do it for tax or some other legal reasons.


Anyways

@artemine when is this burn happening?  You said on your facebook page it would be in a few days and that was a few days ago.  I haven't seen that post anywhere else though.

[goodman4hire]

Wow with fud this strong we should all buy more.

Who cares if the devs are anonymous, this is crypto.  Anonymity and privacy is a key part of that.  Maybe they do it for tax or some other legal reasons.


Anyways

@artemine when is this burn happening?  You said on your facebook page it would be in a few days and that was a few days ago.  I haven't seen that post anywhere else though.

I think the burn already happened when we bought into this. 

[minime0105]

after I sent mne to Ico, what if my ether wallet got hacked? can I ask for changing my genesis address?
or is there an any otherway for pretecting my future genesis address?

No you can't, It is like already embedded on that, collection of this genesis address is link already on the ICO. SO the solution is only one, don't get hacked.

[badinvesterguy]

It’s not FUD when the devs offloading his bs token, look at the price of MNE, wouldn’t you think after 500k MNE are burned (what’s meant to happen) that the price would drop? Shouldn’t it be going up if the supply has been decreased?

Everyone thinks the price should go up after burning half of it, but the reason it went up a while back, was because everyone knew this, and all that wanted to have the coin, bought it.
New people won't get attracted to this because they would get half or less than the people buying ARTE on day one, and with 99% FUD on the topics.
Airdropping usually requires a lot of posts and a decent not new account on bct, because that is how they know they're dealing with 1 person behind every account. That's where MNE went wrong.

[muhlambo]

It’s not FUD when the devs offloading his bs token, look at the price of MNE, wouldn’t you think after 500k MNE are burned (what’s meant to happen) that the price would drop? Shouldn’t it be going up if the supply has been decreased?

Everyone thinks the price should go up after burning half of it, but the reason it went up a while back, was because everyone knew this, and all that wanted to have the coin, bought it.
New people won't get attracted to this because they would get half or less than the people buying ARTE on day one, and with 99% FUD on the topics.
Airdropping usually requires a lot of posts and a decent not new account on bct, because that is how they know they're dealing with 1 person behind every account. That's where MNE went wrong.

We may need some new kind of marketing.. I liked huffpost-kind articles, gets big audience but I'm not sure is the targeting right... We need to figure out this, going in big exhanges like BITTREX would be easiest but it needs money to get there. Dev could maybe use some of the ETH for that.

[badinvesterguy]

It’s not FUD when the devs offloading his bs token, look at the price of MNE, wouldn’t you think after 500k MNE are burned (what’s meant to happen) that the price would drop? Shouldn’t it be going up if the supply has been decreased?

Everyone thinks the price should go up after burning half of it, but the reason it went up a while back, was because everyone knew this, and all that wanted to have the coin, bought it.
New people won't get attracted to this because they would get half or less than the people buying ARTE on day one, and with 99% FUD on the topics.
Airdropping usually requires a lot of posts and a decent not new account on bct, because that is how they know they're dealing with 1 person behind every account. That's where MNE went wrong.

We may need some new kind of marketing.. I liked huffpost-kind articles, gets big audience but I'm not sure is the targeting right... We need to figure out this, going in big exhanges like BITTREX would be easiest but it needs money to get there. Dev could maybe use some of the ETH for that.

bittrex isn't accepting new currencies and is free to enlist

[banks38]

It’s not FUD when the devs offloading his bs token, look at the price of MNE, wouldn’t you think after 500k MNE are burned (what’s meant to happen) that the price would drop? Shouldn’t it be going up if the supply has been decreased?

Everyone thinks the price should go up after burning half of it, but the reason it went up a while back, was because everyone knew this, and all that wanted to have the coin, bought it.
New people won't get attracted to this because they would get half or less than the people buying ARTE on day one, and with 99% FUD on the topics.
Airdropping usually requires a lot of posts and a decent not new account on bct, because that is how they know they're dealing with 1 person behind every account. That's where MNE went wrong.

We may need some new kind of marketing.. I liked huffpost-kind articles, gets big audience but I'm not sure is the targeting right... We need to figure out this, going in big exhanges like BITTREX would be easiest but it needs money to get there. Dev could maybe use some of the ETH for that.

bittrex isn't accepting new currencies and is free to enlist

Guys Bittrex has standards.  I don't think either of these 2 scam coins are going to get on over there.  

The best case scenario is the Minereum Dev team screwed up an airdrop on a coin that completely depends on a fair distribution of the genesis addresses.  The fact that the genesis addresses all went to one person completely de-ligetimizes everything Minereum and Artemine stands for.  Everyone knows now.  The scam artist who has all the addresses now control the project.  You really think Minereum/Artemine Dev team would continue a project where some other individual who scammed them makes all the profit while they do all the work?  Give me a break guys.  He is anonymous.  He would take the technology skills he has and start over with a proper distribution that could work.  The fact that he is not leads you to the obvious and most probable scenario below.

The most probable scenario is the Development team of Minereum is a single scam artist fronting as a team of workers (who all are anonymous)  who was too lazy to separate all the transactions allowing the one fellow to expose him.  It's all right there to see.

You guys trying to pump this as a legit coin so you can dump is pretty low.

[badinvesterguy]

It’s not FUD when the devs offloading his bs token, look at the price of MNE, wouldn’t you think after 500k MNE are burned (what’s meant to happen) that the price would drop? Shouldn’t it be going up if the supply has been decreased?

Everyone thinks the price should go up after burning half of it, but the reason it went up a while back, was because everyone knew this, and all that wanted to have the coin, bought it.
New people won't get attracted to this because they would get half or less than the people buying ARTE on day one, and with 99% FUD on the topics.
Airdropping usually requires a lot of posts and a decent not new account on bct, because that is how they know they're dealing with 1 person behind every account. That's where MNE went wrong.

We may need some new kind of marketing.. I liked huffpost-kind articles, gets big audience but I'm not sure is the targeting right... We need to figure out this, going in big exhanges like BITTREX would be easiest but it needs money to get there. Dev could maybe use some of the ETH for that.

bittrex isn't accepting new currencies and is free to enlist

Guys Bittrex has standards.  I don't think either of these 2 scam coins are going to get on over there.  

The best case scenario is the Minereum Dev team screwed up an airdrop on a coin that completely depends on a fair distribution of the genesis addresses.  The fact that the genesis addresses all went to one person completely de-ligetimizes everything Minereum and Artemine stands for.  Everyone knows now.

The most probable scenario is the Development team of Minereum is a single scam artist fronting as a team of workers (who all are anonymous)  who was too lazy to separate all the transactions allowing the one fellow to expose him.  It's all right there to see.

You guys trying to pump this as a legit coin so you can dump is pretty low.

If, we assume every human has a 50% chance to be evil and break trust/laws/rules to gain money.
Quick math example, i'm not saying any is true or false, but your 'most probable' isn't very convincing to me :
dev team all being evil (i dont know how many, lets say 3 people) 0.5 ^ 3 = 1/8.
one random guy (or more) who read the minereum topic is evil (and able) 1 - 0.5 ^ 1000 = 1 - 9.33*10E-302 = 1