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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitfury is looking for alpha-testers of first chips! FREE MONEY HERE!  (Read 176723 times)
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June 09, 2013, 11:32:40 AM
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https://mega.co.nz/#!GIF1gYZK!M_8JowhsGc6wc2b3fsRHVCdst5w8UC0M2yq1RgHwDV8

Here's source code "as is" of all my fpga-related work.
This is a wonderful gift to the community, bitfury.  I'll be the first to say thank you!  It is a shame that it is hidden away in a post on this forum.  Do you plan to give it a proper home on your website, and/or github?

I did not see a license specified in the archive.  That would be helpful to people, so they know what they are allowed to do with the code.

Congratulations on your achievement!  Here's to hoping the first run of your ASICs runs as furiously as your name implies.

License - no any restrictions - do whatever you want both commercial and non-commercial.

Well - to make great announcement of bitstream - there's some docs should be written, porting, etc. really not much people can understand, maybe even some license notice if taken so seriously. I don't remember exactly to whom (but can look on skype) - but I gave it I think in Feb 2013 to people who appeared to be skilled in FPGA. and till today no results and no announce. I doubt they really wished to spend effort required :-(
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June 09, 2013, 11:41:21 AM
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Indeed, great gift. My Lancelot will be happier Wink
Thanks.

Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors.
Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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June 09, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
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Im def in

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June 09, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
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Test PCB layout with all above: http://imgur.com/TPcptbv



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Nice work intron. In this thread we talk about the final psu stage and chip itself, this is somehow wrong approach cause if we think about for the lowest parasitic parameters of the circuit without knowing the main power supply with its voltage stabiliser we can make them oscillate and emit noises because of the to low z load, so it will be good to discus also a simple power supply for a single chip. Your desing is good for cooling as you have mentioned above, if we want to acheave some better parameters we can stack bypass capacitors one on top of the other but this technique will again affect cooling performance I think that your pcb is quite good if we think just for powering up the chip and measure some parameters it will give as enough knowledge for further development.
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June 09, 2013, 01:50:15 PM
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First i would like to congrat you for this nice initiative.

I dont know if you still have place for tester as i've seen so many replys but i would be happy to help.

I got experience with Pcb's , electronics circuits and ships programming and i have all the required things in topic as i work in this field and got acess to electronics labs.

BTW, i live in Europe.
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June 09, 2013, 02:21:36 PM
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Last version of 'Bitfury Test Jig': http://imgur.com/5gb5qJx

Now with M3 mounting holes to fasten it to a heat sink,
1V8 - 3V3 level shifter, test pins for various signals, big
solder tabs for 0V5..0V9 core power connections and
a bit more decoupling.

It's a bi-layer and 1200x1400 mils in size (approx. 30x35 mm).

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June 09, 2013, 03:11:16 PM
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Last version of 'Bitfury Test Jig': http://imgur.com/5gb5qJx

Now with M3 mounting holes to fasten it to a heat sink,
1V8 - 3V3 level shifter, test pins for various signals, big
solder tabs for 0V5..0V9 core power connections and
a bit more decoupling.

It's a bi-layer and 1200x1400 mils in size (approx. 30x35 mm).

intron

Nice looking boards, but might it be better to switch to SMT connectors to keep the back flatter?
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June 09, 2013, 03:29:27 PM
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Last version of 'Bitfury Test Jig': http://imgur.com/5gb5qJx

Now with M3 mounting holes to fasten it to a heat sink,
1V8 - 3V3 level shifter, test pins for various signals, big
solder tabs for 0V5..0V9 core power connections and
a bit more decoupling.

It's a bi-layer and 1200x1400 mils in size (approx. 30x35 mm).

intron

Nice looking boards, but might it be better to switch to SMT connectors to keep the back flatter?

You are more than correct, but I didn't have them in my library.
And it doesn't look like there is much time for making new shapes
and such.

I thought about masking the bottom with Kapton tape to
prevent shorts with the heat sink.

intron

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June 09, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
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Last version of 'Bitfury Test Jig': http://imgur.com/5gb5qJx

Now with M3 mounting holes to fasten it to a heat sink,
1V8 - 3V3 level shifter, test pins for various signals, big
solder tabs for 0V5..0V9 core power connections and
a bit more decoupling.

It's a bi-layer and 1200x1400 mils in size (approx. 30x35 mm).

intron

Nice looking boards, but might it be better to switch to SMT connectors to keep the back flatter?

You are more than correct, but I didn't have them in my library.
And it doesn't look like there is much time for making new shapes
and such.

I thought about masking the bottom with Kapton tape to
prevent shorts with the heat sink.

intron



Approximately what I was going to do.  I was thinking tape + shim the heatsink up ~2-3mm
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June 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Last edit: July 30, 2013, 07:37:50 PM by intron
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Looks like the board passed the pre-production tests:



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June 10, 2013, 07:36:44 PM
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I should suggest a quick, low-cost bi-layer and go from there.

yup - let's stick with the KISS principle pls Smiley

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June 10, 2013, 08:26:10 PM
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I should suggest a quick, low-cost bi-layer and go from there.

yup - let's stick with the KISS principle pls Smiley

The boards went in production today, will show a picture
when they return from the manufacturer.

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June 10, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
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I should suggest a quick, low-cost bi-layer and go from there.

yup - let's stick with the KISS principle pls Smiley

The boards went in production today, will show a picture
when they return from the manufacturer.

intron
When are you expecting them back?
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June 10, 2013, 09:03:05 PM
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I should suggest a quick, low-cost bi-layer and go from there.

yup - let's stick with the KISS principle pls Smiley

The boards went in production today, will show a picture
when they return from the manufacturer.

intron
When are you expecting them back?

As I'm paying for them myself, I orded them with five
day delivery time. In this way the costs are kept low.
This means that with shipping delay they will be back
early next week.

It will be a 2x2 panel, holding four boards.

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June 11, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
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I should suggest a quick, low-cost bi-layer and go from there.

yup - let's stick with the KISS principle pls Smiley

The boards went in production today, will show a picture
when they return from the manufacturer.

intron

What power supply do you plan to use for core powering?
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June 11, 2013, 05:44:25 PM
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I should suggest a quick, low-cost bi-layer and go from there.

yup - let's stick with the KISS principle pls Smiley

The boards went in production today, will show a picture
when they return from the manufacturer.

intron

What power supply do you plan to use for core powering?

Planned to use a 12V input, adjustable output voltage
DC/DC module that is capable of delivering up to 50 A
output current.

Not planning on designing such a power supply now,
would take too much time and effort I think. Or to speak
with Bob Pease: or you'll end up with just plain explosions:-)

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June 11, 2013, 07:20:15 PM
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Planned to use a 12V input, adjustable output voltage
DC/DC module that is capable of delivering up to 50 A
output current.

Not planning on designing such a power supply now,
would take too much time and effort I think. Or to speak
with Bob Pease: or you'll end up with just plain explosions:-)

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I was planning on using a similar style board to what you designed because I don't think the test sockets I've got will handle the clean, but intense power spikes posted previously by bitfury.  Was planning on using an FTDI breakout module I have laying around for comms.  3.3V to 1.8V level shifting using resistors shouldn't be a problem, however I've also got a number of level shifter ICs at disposal if higher frequencies are required.   For power I was going to use a 0-30V 0-20A lab psu and doing layout on a board that can jumper between 0.6-0.9V in 0.1V increments based on the LM2743.

To summarize my thoughts/process with regards to testing:

1) Reflow board with bitfury chip, decoupling caps, level shifters, attach copper shims to back of QFN48 mount location, attach LGA775 heatsink (modded with thermocouple mount)
2) Hook up lab PSU on 0.7V, max 10A
3) Attach function generator inclk generating 100mhz, use oscope to calibrate rise/fall such that dst pin has clean clock.  May substitute FPGA in place of function generator depending on circumstances encountered.  Higher frequencies will be tested dependent on the limitations of impedance correction of the tektronix clock generator and/or FPGA.  I would guess that 400mhz off of the clock generator wouldn't be a problem and 180mhz off of the FPGA (Cyclone IV) would not.
4) Attach FTDI chip to SPI outs and test chip (repeat as necessary, also need info as to register layout of chip)
5) Wire inclk to ground, rerun tests while monitoring outclk with oscope.  Mark chips with failed internal oscillators
6) Test remaining chips running on internal oscillators.
7) Rerun tests in 0.1V increments between 0.6-0.9V skipping 0.7V (already tested), recording power consumption/hashrate/temp.
Cool Rerun tests with LM2743 psu (approx 90% efficient), recording power consumption/hashrate/temp.
9) Rerun tests with a chain of boards.

So at this point, the questions I have are:
1) Is this process satisfactory to what you're requesting?
2) Has anyone done the calculations on decoupling caps yet?   One could go overcompensate but this would effect power/hashrate and thermal properties.  I could figure it out and run simulations, but if someone has already done this....
3) I'm working out a test suite for the chips (and subsequent support for cgminer), using an FPGA as a dummy ASIC, however still need register addresses, etc.

I'm planning on doing the PCB on < 0.04" thick 2-oz FR-4, which we don't have any in stock, so going to pick some up when out running errands.   Also was thinking may plate for longer when doing the vias to add some additional copper mass to spread heat.

-Ultrix
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June 12, 2013, 03:14:15 AM
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Has anyone received a confirmation that Bitfury is sending out ASICs to those that he contacted? I have my Pi sitting waiting and a 4 layer board finished and waiting to go to fab. I don't want to send it until I know I'm going to get some chips to test though.

@bitfury: you mentioned the Si5338 in another thread. That clock generator can only go to 250MHz based on the datasheet in SE LVCMOS mode. Have you tested it higher, and if not could you recommend one that could feed 500MHz without using differential clocking?
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June 12, 2013, 03:33:15 AM
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I wanna hook up a Bitfury to a raspberry pi and arduino

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June 12, 2013, 03:54:15 AM
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Has anyone received a confirmation that Bitfury is sending out ASICs to those that he contacted? I have my Pi sitting waiting and a 4 layer board finished and waiting to go to fab. I don't want to send it until I know I'm going to get some chips to test though.

@bitfury: you mentioned the Si5338 in another thread. That clock generator can only go to 250MHz based on the datasheet in SE LVCMOS mode. Have you tested it higher, and if not could you recommend one that could feed 500MHz without using differential clocking?

No idea, but I presume from the lack of update that the chips are still in limbo in the packaging facility (remember they didn't want to ship until the 13th).

 
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