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Author Topic: [ANN][ROI] ROI Coin | CPU Only Solo Mining Hybrid | 15% POS | 593% Term Deposit  (Read 73983 times)
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November 08, 2017, 10:59:28 PM
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Why can't you just ban the IP of the user who throws a lot of hashing power at the coin?  Is that possible


the pool operator can ban nicehash easily, as their logs show quite obviously where the hash comes from

BUT : they don't need to. all they need to do is lower the max diff on the pool to like 128 , and nicehash shares will all be rejected Cheesy

The pool owner opened the flood gates when they raised the max diff to 1024 (by community request, but none the less, thats what did it)

 

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November 08, 2017, 11:09:45 PM
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Not to be a neighsayer, but how do you get to such high PoS returns. Every other coin/token to date promising these kinds of returns have been scams/ponzi schemes. I'm not accusing, but would like to understand how this is different.
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November 08, 2017, 11:25:53 PM
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Something fishy going on with the pool:

My accepted shares keep on decreasing without any invalid shares and with no increase in the coin balance.

Address   Shares   Invalid shares   Efficiency   Hashrate   Balance   Daily income (expected)
RSKSygcgXt24qAU2UhkacypbxCkD6nk1PM   44   0   100%   75.24 H   0 ROI   18.089 ROI

When I first looked at it about an hour back, the shares were around 80 and I haven't had any payments since.

Is this expected, i.e. reduction in the number of shares ?
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November 08, 2017, 11:34:02 PM
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Not to be a neighsayer, but how do you get to such high PoS returns. Every other coin/token to date promising these kinds of returns have been scams/ponzi schemes. I'm not accusing, but would like to understand how this is different.

ROI Coin has a POS of 8% per year. IMHO I wouldn't call that extraordinary by any means.

The much higher % yields stem from "term depositing." The longer the term deposit the higher the interest rate goes. Term deposits do not mean the coin is a scam or ponzi. Term deposits have been done before and at astronomically higher rates than we have introduced. In a previous instance no destructive impact ever occurred as a result of the term deposit implementation and here again this was with much higher term deposit payouts.

Now you may or may not like or agree with the dev teams position on term deposit but if you're willing to consider the reasoning here it is.

Term deposits provide several positive energies to the coin.

  • Gives incentive to hold the coin for a longer period of time to benefit from an increased reward
  • Coins that are held longer term leverage the hope that we create long term users
  • Term deposited coins are "locked down" so this slows down the flow of coins into the market
  • Slowing down the flow of coins helps to improve supply and demand to help coin valuation
  • Because various user term deposits unlock at all various times mass "dumping" issues are improved
  • Very few coins offer this option so it helps the coin as it provides it's own unique type of store of value
  • As the coin is branded ROI AKA Return on Investment this term deposit reinforces this desirable coin feature
  • Term deposit is further enhanced in that the wallet is not required to stay online to gain full reward
  • Offline wallet term rewards creates less user hassle for those who have little time to babysit a QT staking wallet

There are more and this list is not all inclusive but it's a decent starter kit worth considering.

By definition a PONZI is a pyramid in which new users must be brought in as a "down line" and the cash flow provided by those new users is mandatory to keep the above pieces of the pyramid liquid. Term deposits are nothing like this by any stretch of the imagination.

By definition a scam is a straight up scheme designed to rip-off/defraud people. If you think this coin is a scam your simply patently wrong in that determination and as time moves forward farther and farther it will become more and more apparent to you that this coin is legitimate and I am certain of that.

You don't have to like this coin or bother getting involved in it and I will respect your opinion and decision. I do like this coin and I am fully involved in it and I hope you can likewise respect my position. Smiley At the end of the day it's okay to agree to disagree and it's all good.

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November 08, 2017, 11:34:32 PM
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Something fishy going on with the pool:

My accepted shares keep on decreasing without any invalid shares and with no increase in the coin balance.

Address   Shares   Invalid shares   Efficiency   Hashrate   Balance   Daily income (expected)
RSKSygcgXt24qAU2UhkacypbxCkD6nk1PM   44   0   100%   75.24 H   0 ROI   18.089 ROI

When I first looked at it about an hour back, the shares were around 80 and I haven't had any payments since.

Is this expected, i.e. reduction in the number of shares ?

haha thats just your shares resetting as each block is hit you nub ;p    
you wont see payouts for blocks from time they are hit for around 20 hours, as the coinbase maturity is 360 confirms Cheesy

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November 08, 2017, 11:36:38 PM
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Not to be a neighsayer, but how do you get to such high PoS returns. Every other coin/token to date promising these kinds of returns have been scams/ponzi schemes. I'm not accusing, but would like to understand how this is different.

PoS is huge topic.  To be honest, it took me a while to figure it out.  I was always asking, well, were are the coins coming from?  I just did not get it.  The short answer is, it is built into the block chain.  Peercoin and Primecoin I believe were the first adopters of this as an alternative or a hybrid to offset the energy usage in PoW.  Might be good places to Google search for more info.

As far as the interest earned on Term Deposits?  It is also generated by the blockchain, to pay on term deposits.  While paid on maturation, the interest is accumulating sat by sat.  It really is just a more main stream way of saying PoS.  Not many people know what Bitcoin is.  How can we expect them to understand PoS, but they do understand Deposits and interest earned based on time and percentage.  Just like a Certificate of Deposit.

So ROIcoin, technically has two levels of PoS.  The base PoS with pays on all new deposits for a month, each new deposit a month out, and so on...  So the Available balance will always be earning on new balances.

The Term Deposit Interest, is just a higher calculation of the 1st PoS using the same algo, but with higher values and in direct relation to the lock time, again, like a CD.

Both of which, are built into the block chain, validated by consensus (everyone on the network as they process blocks), and in your wallet they grow.  This is because it too has its own hash.  So if anyone ever went to Github and tried to change the percentages, it simply would not work, there are multiple layers of information in the blockchain that are "locked", no match no play.  Simply would not connect to the network.

No need to keep the wallet open for PoS, but it does help the network, even if you are not mining.

This is a very basic reply.  I am sure there are some old timers around here that could explain it a bit better than me.

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November 08, 2017, 11:40:37 PM
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Something fishy going on with the pool:

My accepted shares keep on decreasing without any invalid shares and with no increase in the coin balance.

Address   Shares   Invalid shares   Efficiency   Hashrate   Balance   Daily income (expected)
RSKSygcgXt24qAU2UhkacypbxCkD6nk1PM   44   0   100%   75.24 H   0 ROI   18.089 ROI

When I first looked at it about an hour back, the shares were around 80 and I haven't had any payments since.

Is this expected, i.e. reduction in the number of shares ?

Your shares are reducing cause someone is throwing an absurd amount of hashing power at the pool something like 1200x more than you, and getting most of the shares. You only see any amount on the balance once the first block you mined matures and that will take some time.
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November 08, 2017, 11:42:07 PM
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Something fishy going on with the pool:

My accepted shares keep on decreasing without any invalid shares and with no increase in the coin balance.

Address   Shares   Invalid shares   Efficiency   Hashrate   Balance   Daily income (expected)
RSKSygcgXt24qAU2UhkacypbxCkD6nk1PM   44   0   100%   75.24 H   0 ROI   18.089 ROI

When I first looked at it about an hour back, the shares were around 80 and I haven't had any payments since.

Is this expected, i.e. reduction in the number of shares ?

haha thats just your shares resetting as each block is hit you nub ;p    
you wont see payouts for blocks from time they are hit for around 20 hours, as the coinbase maturity is 360 confirms Cheesy


Ok, thanks for the explanation. I understand the shares decreasing while hitting new blocks but I expected the balance to go up. Now I am all-clear! Cheesy
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November 08, 2017, 11:47:53 PM
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I mined on the pool for almost a half of day with 140H, shares 82 but still not mine any coin! Do you guys know what wrong with it?

It takes 360 blocks to confirm, so you will need to wait a bit.
However, it would be nice to see previously mined shares, as it is now if you disconnect your miner from the pool you can't see any shares.

Thanks for your replying! Finally I got 20ROI from pool!
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November 08, 2017, 11:53:30 PM
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Thanks for the explanations guys, much appreciated.
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November 08, 2017, 11:58:59 PM
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Yesterday at the pool I mined with a speed of 10-15 KH and only one paid 25 coins, for 25 coin in days, how?
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November 08, 2017, 11:59:32 PM
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Thanks for the explanations guys, much appreciated.

Happily.  Any time you have a question or concern.  Feel free to ask.  We want everyone to succeed, and one element is knowledge.  Smiley

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November 09, 2017, 12:52:04 AM
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Yesterday at the pool I mined with a speed of 10-15 KH and only one paid 25 coins, for 25 coin in days, how?

Sometimes, I really curious how people mining with huge hashrate but know nothing about the coin, I bet you do not have to pay the bill for the hashrate, right?

Please read carefully at the OP, or read back a few comments...



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November 09, 2017, 01:05:48 AM
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Yesterday at the pool I mined with a speed of 10-15 KH and only one paid 25 coins, for 25 coin in days, how?

Sometimes, I really curious how people mining with huge hashrate but know nothing about the coin, I bet you do not have to pay the bill for the hashrate, right?

Please read carefully at the OP, or read back a few comments...
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November 09, 2017, 02:37:20 AM
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How can I start mining on a Mac?
I notice that the opening post says that a Mac wallet is available, but I can't find it.
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November 09, 2017, 02:38:23 AM
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How can I start mining on a Mac?
I notice that the opening post says that a Mac wallet is available, but I can't find it.

Sorry but that compile is not yet completed but working on having it done soon.

If anyone would like to compile the binary for MAC I am happy to pay bounty on that Cheesy

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November 09, 2017, 03:59:17 AM
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Can anyone give a command line startup for minerd (optiminer) to mine ROIcoin under linux?

I can git clone, build, make etc no problems but am not sure what the command is to mine ROIcoin with optiminer.  

Also, what's the command line to mine with the compiled wallet in linux? I can get ROIcoind compiled and runs ok but only looks like it reads blocks etc if I include the options in the command line (looks like it's not reading from ROIcoin.conf (which is located in ~/.ROIcoin/ and is readable from the 'current user' (i.e. who I'm logged in as on my linux machine))).

EDIT: I've read the posts showing how to mine with a pool.  Obviously cannot use minerd (sorry) as the compiled binary is hodlminer (facepalm).  However am trying solo mining (not pool mining) so I'll need to experiment with starting the ROIcoin wallet via CLI first and see if it's as simple as -o http://127.0.0.1:3377... oh and the command in ubuntu (linux whatever) for ROIcond to mine is:

Code:
ROIcoind -rpcuser=rpc -rpcpassword=1234 -rpcport=3377 -daemon=1 -server=1 -listen=0 -miningaddress=RYR39RF8x65s1U45kKEnh7U16ymJHnYkao* -gen

*replace the -miningaddress=[etc] with your own receive address from your wallet or you'll be mining for me...which is ok but probably not what you want.

I use -listen=0 because if I don't then the daemon stops and the debug file tells me it cannot listed at 0.0.0.0:3377.

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November 09, 2017, 05:26:04 AM
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 Sad the only pool down again,,
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November 09, 2017, 06:03:56 AM
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Tell me how you can transfer coins to the deposit. What is the address for this? Where can I create an address for a deposit?

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November 09, 2017, 06:06:57 AM
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Tell me how you can transfer coins to the deposit. What is the address for this? Where can I create an address for a deposit?

Its ultra easy, just take one of you addys you have in your wallet. Otherwise, create a new addy. File->Recieving addresses. create new, label it, copy addy and deposit into it Smiley
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