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I have the winning strategy but doog wants to keep my quiet from sharing it. It is why he left me negs on my account and the reason why he felt threatened. Its ok cause doog I was joking with you yesterday and all my people I share the secrets with will get clams and take down ur dice site for good. If you have serious money and you are a whale, then Im willing to give you the secret for free! you can donate anything you want to me at the end. I have two accounts using a bot strategy. I can explain it if your are serious to take the sites bank roll.
You're a delusional fuck. On a side note I'm quitting JD for a while. Its been a fun 2 years but I need to take a step back and get my life back into a positive light and get my investors paid back (hopefully end of summer). Good luck to dooglus / Deb and the rest of the JD staff and players. It's been a blast. WE will miss you Degen Kyle
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May 05, 2015, 11:21:45 PM |
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I have the winning strategy but doog wants to keep my quiet from sharing it. It is why he left me negs on my account and the reason why he felt threatened. Its ok cause doog I was joking with you yesterday and all my people I share the secrets with will get clams and take down ur dice site for good. If you have serious money and you are a whale, then Im willing to give you the secret for free! you can donate anything you want to me at the end. I have two accounts using a bot strategy. I can explain it if your are serious to take the sites bank roll.
You don't have a winning strategy. I left you negative feedback because you were trying to sell a losing strategy to suckers. If you have a winning strategy, why don't you use it to win? I'm quitting JD for a while. Its been a fun 2 years but I need to take a step back and get my life back into a positive light and get my investors paid back (hopefully end of summer).
Good luck to dooglus / Deb and the rest of the JD staff and players. It's been a blast.
Thanks. Good luck to you too. Getting away from the site will be good for you I'm sure. Thank you for the time you put in to moderating the chat and generally keeping things interesting. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 06, 2015, 01:25:10 AM |
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I have the winning strategy but doog wants to keep my quiet from sharing it. It is why he left me negs on my account and the reason why he felt threatened. Its ok cause doog I was joking with you yesterday and all my people I share the secrets with will get clams and take down ur dice site for good. If you have serious money and you are a whale, then Im willing to give you the secret for free! you can donate anything you want to me at the end. I have two accounts using a bot strategy. I can explain it if your are serious to take the sites bank roll.
You don't have a winning strategy. I left you negative feedback because you were trying to sell a losing strategy to suckers. If you have a winning strategy, why don't you use it to win? I'm quitting JD for a while. Its been a fun 2 years but I need to take a step back and get my life back into a positive light and get my investors paid back (hopefully end of summer).
Good luck to dooglus / Deb and the rest of the JD staff and players. It's been a blast.
Thanks. Good luck to you too. Getting away from the site will be good for you I'm sure. Thank you for the time you put in to moderating the chat and generally keeping things interesting. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I did turn out with two profits on two different accounts on ur site. I had to use my money for emergency reasons, hence I cant afford to play now. reason why I am offering it for free with donations when they make something. For you to pay attention to my posts, clearly means you feel threatened to what I discovered.
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May 06, 2015, 02:20:49 AM |
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I have the winning strategy but doog wants to keep my quiet from sharing it. It is why he left me negs on my account and the reason why he felt threatened. Its ok cause doog I was joking with you yesterday and all my people I share the secrets with will get clams and take down ur dice site for good. If you have serious money and you are a whale, then Im willing to give you the secret for free! you can donate anything you want to me at the end. I have two accounts using a bot strategy. I can explain it if your are serious to take the sites bank roll.
You don't have a winning strategy. I left you negative feedback because you were trying to sell a losing strategy to suckers. If you have a winning strategy, why don't you use it to win? I'm quitting JD for a while. Its been a fun 2 years but I need to take a step back and get my life back into a positive light and get my investors paid back (hopefully end of summer).
Good luck to dooglus / Deb and the rest of the JD staff and players. It's been a blast.
Thanks. Good luck to you too. Getting away from the site will be good for you I'm sure. Thank you for the time you put in to moderating the chat and generally keeping things interesting. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I did turn out with two profits on two different accounts on ur site. I had to use my money for emergency reasons, hence I cant afford to play now. reason why I am offering it for free with donations when they make something. For you to pay attention to my posts, clearly means you feel threatened to what I discovered. I promise you that you do not have any strategy that over any period of time will result in a positive outcome (+EV). If you want to PM me the "strategy" I will explain how you will eventually lose and I promise not to share it with anyone so it won't affect your business model.
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dooglus (OP)
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May 06, 2015, 03:54:27 AM |
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You don't have a winning strategy. I left you negative feedback because you were trying to sell a losing strategy to suckers. If you have a winning strategy, why don't you use it to win?
I did turn out with two profits on two different accounts on ur site. I had to use my money for emergency reasons, hence I cant afford to play now. reason why I am offering it for free with donations when they make something. For you to pay attention to my posts, clearly means you feel threatened to what I discovered. I'm not saying you can't win. I'm saying you don't have a winning strategy. It is possible for anyone to win at roulette even. There's a big house edge against you, but it's possible to win. It's not possible (without cheating) to have a winning strategy. Your expectation is negative, the same as when you play dice. Lots of people walk away as winners, but that's because they got lucky, not because they have a winning strategy. I pay attention to this thread, not to your posts in particular. I don't feel threatened, and you didn't discover anything of value.
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it's been almost 2 years with someone explaining this to zolace (duckydonald) every few weeks. If he doesn't get it by now, I think it's safe to assume he will never understand that there is no winning strategy.
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May 06, 2015, 09:42:22 PM |
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TigerTatas, one of our regular players, has written a "BetSniper" bot for the Just-Dice chat. It's currently regularly giving out free CLAMs for people who play bets with particular IDs: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3ZF1spP.png&t=665&c=NrV1ryzkk16SvA) ... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fhm3Dnf6.png&t=665&c=FfQ3n_G7pz-3ag) There seems to be little competition for the prizes at the moment. It may actually be +EV to try to win them...
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May 06, 2015, 10:48:55 PM |
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First, let me give credit where it's due. The idea of the BetSniper game came to me as a modification of the milestone giveaways that v1rtu0so hosts. I always thought it was a cool idea and it got everyone in chat riled up. Then, I also wanted to just try out JDCAPI ( https://github.com/seuntie900/jdcapi) by Seuntjie. With his api, I was able to build this simple game within an hour. I cannot say enough about how great his work is. So, thank you both! Now to answer a couple questions that everyone keeps asking me. 1. No, I have nothing to gain. I want nothing. I am GIVING you clams. You are welcome. 2. No, I don't want to tip you so you have money to play the game. Silly asses. However, I do want to clam the right to "Sniper Bullets" because I got a laugh when I came up with it. 3. If you see anyone thanking Deb for her contribution to the game, know that it's an inside joke. Come to the chat room and ask, someone will tell you the funny story. 4. Yes, you can donate to the BetSniper by using the /tip 32 Amount command. Please type /tip in chat if you need more information. 5. No, I am not for hire to make you a bot. Blurt out a cool idea and I might do it. Have fun. See you at Just-Dice.com
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Its good to see Just-dice picking up again , especially because my invested profit grows ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Made 66 clams so far from investing, not so bad ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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Its good to see Just-dice picking up again , especially because my invested profit grows ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Made 66 clams so far from investing, not so bad ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Yeah, not bad indeed!
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May 07, 2015, 11:25:23 AM |
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Its good to see Just-dice picking up again , especially because my invested profit grows ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Made 66 clams so far from investing, not so bad ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Yeah, not bad indeed! Yeah considering i invested just about 0.2 btc in it its pretty damn good . ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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May 07, 2015, 11:31:51 AM |
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I have the winning strategy but doog wants to keep my quiet from sharing it. It is why he left me negs on my account and the reason why he felt threatened. Its ok cause doog I was joking with you yesterday and all my people I share the secrets with will get clams and take down ur dice site for good. If you have serious money and you are a whale, then Im willing to give you the secret for free! you can donate anything you want to me at the end. I have two accounts using a bot strategy. I can explain it if your are serious to take the sites bank roll.
You don't have a winning strategy. I left you negative feedback because you were trying to sell a losing strategy to suckers. If you have a winning strategy, why don't you use it to win? I'm quitting JD for a while. Its been a fun 2 years but I need to take a step back and get my life back into a positive light and get my investors paid back (hopefully end of summer).
Good luck to dooglus / Deb and the rest of the JD staff and players. It's been a blast.
Thanks. Good luck to you too. Getting away from the site will be good for you I'm sure. Thank you for the time you put in to moderating the chat and generally keeping things interesting. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I did turn out with two profits on two different accounts on ur site. I had to use my money for emergency reasons, hence I cant afford to play now. reason why I am offering it for free with donations when they make something. For you to pay attention to my posts, clearly means you feel threatened to what I discovered. Wow I feel scared too from what you revealed.
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May 07, 2015, 12:21:15 PM |
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First, let me give credit where it's due. The idea of the BetSniper game came to me as a modification of the milestone giveaways that v1rtu0so hosts. I always thought it was a cool idea and it got everyone in chat riled up. Then, I also wanted to just try out JDCAPI ( https://github.com/seuntie900/jdcapi) by Seuntjie. With his api, I was able to build this simple game within an hour. I cannot say enough about how great his work is. So, thank you both! Now to answer a couple questions that everyone keeps asking me. 1. No, I have nothing to gain. I want nothing. I am GIVING you clams. You are welcome. 2. No, I don't want to tip you so you have money to play the game. Silly asses. However, I do want to clam the right to "Sniper Bullets" because I got a laugh when I came up with it. 3. If you see anyone thanking Deb for her contribution to the game, know that it's an inside joke. Come to the chat room and ask, someone will tell you the funny story. 4. Yes, you can donate to the BetSniper by using the /tip 32 Amount command. Please type /tip in chat if you need more information. 5. No, I am not for hire to make you a bot. Blurt out a cool idea and I might do it. Have fun. See you at Just-Dice.com Maybe you should consider capping payouts at 50% of the bots bankroll. It'll last longer that way. Actually I would recommend a even lower cap.
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May 07, 2015, 02:11:56 PM |
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First, let me give credit where it's due. The idea of the BetSniper game came to me as a modification of the milestone giveaways that v1rtu0so hosts. I always thought it was a cool idea and it got everyone in chat riled up. Then, I also wanted to just try out JDCAPI ( https://github.com/seuntie900/jdcapi) by Seuntjie. With his api, I was able to build this simple game within an hour. I cannot say enough about how great his work is. So, thank you both! Now to answer a couple questions that everyone keeps asking me. 1. No, I have nothing to gain. I want nothing. I am GIVING you clams. You are welcome. 2. No, I don't want to tip you so you have money to play the game. Silly asses. However, I do want to clam the right to "Sniper Bullets" because I got a laugh when I came up with it. 3. If you see anyone thanking Deb for her contribution to the game, know that it's an inside joke. Come to the chat room and ask, someone will tell you the funny story. 4. Yes, you can donate to the BetSniper by using the /tip 32 Amount command. Please type /tip in chat if you need more information. 5. No, I am not for hire to make you a bot. Blurt out a cool idea and I might do it. Have fun. See you at Just-Dice.com Maybe you should consider capping payouts at 50% of the bots bankroll. It'll last longer that way. Actually I would recommend a even lower cap. In theory capping it sounds like a good idea, until you realize how many really small bets are being placed that are going to win. 50% sounds reasonable, but making it a percentage will make it last forever. Maybe make it 50% or X clams, whichever is greater, or the Bot balance . X could be any amount. IE 5 clams. I'm rambling so... If X is 2 clams and the balance is 10 clams Max payout would be 5 clams (50% rule) if the balance is 3 clams, Max payout would be 2 clams ( X clam min rule) and if the balance is 1.9 clams Max payout would be 1.9 clams (balance rule).
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May 07, 2015, 05:27:10 PM |
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In theory capping it sounds like a good idea, until you realize how many really small bets are being placed that are going to win. 50% sounds reasonable, but making it a percentage will make it last forever. Maybe make it 50% or X clams, whichever is greater, or the Bot balance . X could be any amount. IE 5 clams. I'm rambling so...
If X is 2 clams and the balance is 10 clams Max payout would be 5 clams (50% rule) if the balance is 3 clams, Max payout would be 2 clams ( X clam min rule) and if the balance is 1.9 clams Max payout would be 1.9 clams (balance rule).
Bots don't always win. And it won't really last 'forever'. With 50% it can still easily lose a big majority of its balance. And since there are so many rounds its quite likely. What you want is a bot where the balance will last for awhile so you don't need someone to keep tipping it. The balance can easily disappear with 50%. And implementing the X rule on 50% just makes the balance disappear faster.
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May 07, 2015, 05:55:53 PM |
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In theory capping it sounds like a good idea, until you realize how many really small bets are being placed that are going to win. 50% sounds reasonable, but making it a percentage will make it last forever. Maybe make it 50% or X clams, whichever is greater, or the Bot balance . X could be any amount. IE 5 clams. I'm rambling so...
If X is 2 clams and the balance is 10 clams Max payout would be 5 clams (50% rule) if the balance is 3 clams, Max payout would be 2 clams ( X clam min rule) and if the balance is 1.9 clams Max payout would be 1.9 clams (balance rule).
Bots don't always win. And it won't really last 'forever'. With 50% it can still easily lose a big majority of its balance. And since there are so many rounds its quite likely. What you want is a bot where the balance will last for awhile so you don't need someone to keep tipping it. The balance can easily disappear with 50%. And implementing the X rule on 50% just makes the balance disappear faster. I guess I was applying this to my idea's about what the bot was intended to produce. I was assuming (Yea, I know what that means ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) the Bot was trying to entice players to make bigger snipe bets trying to win the pot. I thought the payout was 10X the bet. This is just the max payout. A .00000001 bet would still only get 10X or .0000001 payout. The idea around the minimum max and whole balance payouts was to keep the incentive there for larger bets. Just my 2 cents. I play around with a bot, but my wagers are so meager I wouldn't notice if I ever hit the snipe number...
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May 07, 2015, 09:05:59 PM |
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In theory capping it sounds like a good idea, until you realize how many really small bets are being placed that are going to win. 50% sounds reasonable, but making it a percentage will make it last forever. Maybe make it 50% or X clams, whichever is greater, or the Bot balance . X could be any amount. IE 5 clams. I'm rambling so...
If X is 2 clams and the balance is 10 clams Max payout would be 5 clams (50% rule) if the balance is 3 clams, Max payout would be 2 clams ( X clam min rule) and if the balance is 1.9 clams Max payout would be 1.9 clams (balance rule).
Bots don't always win. And it won't really last 'forever'. With 50% it can still easily lose a big majority of its balance. And since there are so many rounds its quite likely. What you want is a bot where the balance will last for awhile so you don't need someone to keep tipping it. The balance can easily disappear with 50%. And implementing the X rule on 50% just makes the balance disappear faster. I guess I was applying this to my idea's about what the bot was intended to produce. I was assuming (Yea, I know what that means ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) the Bot was trying to entice players to make bigger snipe bets trying to win the pot. I thought the payout was 10X the bet. This is just the max payout. A .00000001 bet would still only get 10X or .0000001 payout. The idea around the minimum max and whole balance payouts was to keep the incentive there for larger bets. Just my 2 cents. I play around with a bot, but my wagers are so meager I wouldn't notice if I ever hit the snipe number... Yeah the Bot is trying to entice players to make bigger bets. But if the percentage is too high it'll just run out of bets. Also if its too high, there won't be enough people who are even willing to be that high. Also if you're running a bot you should care about winning the payout. 10x is really good EV for your bot.
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Anyone notice the increased liquidity on poloniex?
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I've implemented a new market-maker algo at @Poloniex which should provide greater liquidity around the mid-price.
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May 08, 2015, 03:25:02 AM |
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Thanks for the input guys. I have thought about lowering the payouts to 'stretch' the bankroll out. However, I am leaning toward leaving it as is, random between 33% - 66%. Honestly, here is why, I'm a little lazy. I like the idea that when I want to ramp up the chatter and betting, all it takes is 10-20 clam. I enjoy seeing people get active in both chatting (even insults) and betting. It just makes my stay more fun. So, for the personal reasons above, I guess the bot stays as is for now. Enjoy the higher payouts ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh, and I guess now is as good a time as any to load the bot. So, grab your sniper bullets (tm) and come to Just-Dice! See you there, TigerTatas <-- wtf kind of name is that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 08, 2015, 08:16:30 AM |
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Thanks for the input guys. I have thought about lowering the payouts to 'stretch' the bankroll out. However, I am leaning toward leaving it as is, random between 33% - 66%. Honestly, here is why, I'm a little lazy. I like the idea that when I want to ramp up the chatter and betting, all it takes is 10-20 clam. I enjoy seeing people get active in both chatting (even insults) and betting. It just makes my stay more fun. So, for the personal reasons above, I guess the bot stays as is for now. Enjoy the higher payouts ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh, and I guess now is as good a time as any to load the bot. So, grab your sniper bullets (tm) and come to Just-Dice! See you there, TigerTatas <-- wtf kind of name is that ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Wow so inspirational! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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