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December 07, 2016, 07:36:10 AM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?



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December 07, 2016, 08:13:01 AM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?

Not really. It seems like a silly idea to me.

There's a 1% house edge. There's no winning strategy. The attraction of the site is that it's fun to take a gamble, to see if you win or lose. Why would you want to have a bot play for you, when it's almost guaranteed to lose in the long run?

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December 07, 2016, 06:41:12 PM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?

Not really. It seems like a silly idea to me.

There's a 1% house edge. There's no winning strategy. The attraction of the site is that it's fun to take a gamble, to see if you win or lose. Why would you want to have a bot play for you, when it's almost guaranteed to lose in the long run?

Some people seem to enjoy botting more than playing by hand

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December 07, 2016, 07:33:14 PM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?

Not really. It seems like a silly idea to me.

There's a 1% house edge. There's no winning strategy. The attraction of the site is that it's fun to take a gamble, to see if you win or lose. Why would you want to have a bot play for you, when it's almost guaranteed to lose in the long run?

Some people seem to enjoy botting more than playing by hand

You can't roll a million bets in 5 days by hand.

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December 07, 2016, 09:30:58 PM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?

Not really. It seems like a silly idea to me.

There's a 1% house edge. There's no winning strategy. The attraction of the site is that it's fun to take a gamble, to see if you win or lose. Why would you want to have a bot play for you, when it's almost guaranteed to lose in the long run?

Some people seem to enjoy botting more than playing by hand

You can't roll a million bets in 5 days by hand.

But you're essentially making yourself lose more at a more guaranteed chance because the sample size is so large with bot betting. When you manual bet you can win in the short term but with botting you are almost guaranteed to lose.

However i guess the attraction for people is to program a "failsafe" algorithm that will beat the house - which is, i'm sorry to say, impossible for now unless you cheat the house.
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December 08, 2016, 09:21:12 PM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?

Not really. It seems like a silly idea to me.

There's a 1% house edge. There's no winning strategy. The attraction of the site is that it's fun to take a gamble, to see if you win or lose. Why would you want to have a bot play for you, when it's almost guaranteed to lose in the long run?

In fact, it *is* guaranteed to lose in the long run, as long as you choose a sufficiently large interpretation of 'long run', like, say, infinitely large.  Wink
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December 08, 2016, 09:49:39 PM
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Any plans of adding auto-rolling?

Not really. It seems like a silly idea to me.

There's a 1% house edge. There's no winning strategy. The attraction of the site is that it's fun to take a gamble, to see if you win or lose. Why would you want to have a bot play for you, when it's almost guaranteed to lose in the long run?

In fact, it *is* guaranteed to lose in the long run, as long as you choose a sufficiently large interpretation of 'long run', like, say, infinitely large.  Wink


doog's use of "almost" is correct in this case.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_surely

"In probability theory, one says that an event happens almost surely (sometimes abbreviated as a.s.) if it happens with probability one."

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December 09, 2016, 04:18:26 AM
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It doesn't have to be so large. I think I lost after 1.3 million bets. It was fun. (And, it was other people's money, who willingly gave it to me to do a million bets.)

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December 09, 2016, 06:03:58 AM
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doog's use of "almost" is correct in this case.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_surely

"In probability theory, one says that an event happens almost surely (sometimes abbreviated as a.s.) if it happens with probability one."

That was a happy coincidence. I almost surely wasn't thinking of that definition when I used the term. Smiley

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December 09, 2016, 10:15:34 PM
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(And, it was other people's money, ...
That always makes gambling more fun!
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December 11, 2016, 09:13:25 PM
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That was a happy coincidence. I almost surely wasn't thinking of that definition when I used the term. Smiley

Ha! Cheesy

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December 16, 2016, 03:32:09 AM
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From the CLAM thread:

Doog, JD has some bugs now

It turns out when I designed the JD database I thought 2.1 billion bets would be more than would ever happen. We just hit 2.1 billion bets (2^31) so things stopped working.

I've suspended betting and am modifying the database to remove the limitation.

I'll post again once it is done. I've no idea how long it will take, sorry.

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December 16, 2016, 03:34:39 AM
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Thanks doog.


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December 16, 2016, 03:35:37 AM
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From the CLAM thread:

Doog, JD has some bugs now

It turns out when I designed the JD database I thought 2.1 billion bets would be more than would ever happen. We just hit 2.1 billion bets (2^31) so things stopped working.

I've suspended betting and am modifying the database to remove the limitation.

I'll post again once it is done. I've no idea how long it will take, sorry.

Why would you put a limitation like that in the first place?

Seems like it would just be an extra line of code to go in.

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From the CLAM thread:

Doog, JD has some bugs now

It turns out when I designed the JD database I thought 2.1 billion bets would be more than would ever happen. We just hit 2.1 billion bets (2^31) so things stopped working.

I've suspended betting and am modifying the database to remove the limitation.

I'll post again once it is done. I've no idea how long it will take, sorry.

Why would you put a limitation like that in the first place?

Seems like it would just be an extra line of code to go in.

Because
Code:
INT32_MAX = 2147483647
and people love using small default size variables. I actually joked that this would happen a few months back, however I thought I was wrong because you can enter any number in just-dice.com/roll/<number> etc. 1029381803572348957394875348975 and it doesn't complain. So I didn't say anything. *shrug*  Wink
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December 16, 2016, 04:17:42 AM
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Why would you put a limitation like that in the first place?

Seems like it would just be an extra line of code to go in.

Database rows are typically a fixed length. Why use 8 bytes per betid if you think they will always fit into 4 bytes. When you're storing 2 billion of them it makes a difference. Either way you need to decide what size each field in each database table needs to be.

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December 16, 2016, 04:52:38 AM
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I've suspended betting and am modifying the database to remove the limitation.

I'll post again once it is done. I've no idea how long it will take, sorry.

It turned out it was going to take about 8 days to fix the database table that contains the old bet archive. So rather than waiting for that to happen I made a new empty bet archive table. Betting is active again now, but you won't be able to look up details of old bets until I migrate them into the new table.

That will happen gradually over the coming weeks (and hopefully not months, but we'll see...).

None of the data is lost, it just needs a little massaging.

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December 16, 2016, 04:54:02 AM
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I've suspended betting and am modifying the database to remove the limitation.

I'll post again once it is done. I've no idea how long it will take, sorry.

It turned out it was going to take about 8 days to fix the database table that contains the old bet archive. So rather than waiting for that to happen I made a new empty bet archive table. Betting is active again now, but you won't be able to look up details of old bets until I migrate them into the new table.

That will happen gradually over the coming weeks (and hopefully not months, but we'll see...).

None of the data is lost, it just needs a little massaging.

Nice, good to see that the betting is back up again.

Will enjoy another degenerate session hopefully soon, haha. Always enjoyed gambling my funds away on JD Cheesy
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December 16, 2016, 08:12:21 AM
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I've been waiting for a site to hit an int overflow error, never thought it'd be JD, lol

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December 16, 2016, 11:47:58 AM
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Thanks doog for restarting betting




JD is great again!





p.s.

bets are lagging big time. about 6-10 seconds inbetween bets

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