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January 04, 2020, 10:05:44 PM
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1.4.8.5 - Leisure Upgrade

- Fix glitch where exec rac occasionaly comes unlinked
- Allow researchers with insufficient collateral to receive commensurate
RAC (NOTE: This does not go into effect until the next Mandatory
Sanctuary Upgrade is announced on the forum!)
- Added cancelsponsorship rpc command (cancelsponsorship charityname
childid authorize) to allow cancellation of a POOM child
- Removed ability to pay for POOM sponsorship via BBP.  An updated wiki
page will be announced on the forum with the updated payment info.
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Paying_For_a_POOM_Sponsored_Child
- Fixed error message in exec associate for non-bbp researchers. Allow
cpid to be associated if RAC > 256 for non-bbp researcher.
- Added unlock wallet verbiage to vote failure in Voting UI page.

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Sun, will you please test cancelsponsorship and let me know if it deletes a child from listchildren.


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Rob, how do we determine what the maximum total daily emission for the block is supposed to be?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bbp/block.dws?167710.htm

Block value is 839,516.3287386 BBP , but I think based on the calculation of the leaderboard, the daily superblock is closer to 852k BBP? (216,754.3 BBP / 0.2543 prominence = 852,356 BBP).

Is the total daily superblock value something we can query? I know due to deflation is this value decreases after each "monthly" superblock. I'm trying to make a Google Sheets with approximate bbp mined (its usd value) and approximate electrical use (power cost) to see what the break even for PoDC miners will be.

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January 05, 2020, 04:07:11 PM
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Sun, will you please test cancelsponsorship and let me know if it deletes a child from listchildren.

been trying to get camerooneone to at least give bbp for the ones I sponsored about 7 children. once I get that squared away I can test the feature. it's been 4 days now.

I don't know what you mean.  The sentence appears to have multiple meanings.

No rush.  Once we know one dissapears from listchildren, then I can move to the next step.



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January 05, 2020, 04:20:12 PM
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Rob, how do we determine what the maximum total daily emission for the block is supposed to be?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bbp/block.dws?167710.htm

Block value is 839,516.3287386 BBP , but I think based on the calculation of the leaderboard, the daily superblock is closer to 852k BBP? (216,754.3 BBP / 0.2543 prominence = 852,356 BBP).

Is the total daily superblock value something we can query? I know due to deflation is this value decreases after each "monthly" superblock. I'm trying to make a Google Sheets with approximate bbp mined (its usd value) and approximate electrical use (power cost) to see what the break even for PoDC miners will be.
To query the daily superblock:  exec getgovlimit gsc_height, see the "Limit" column.
To calculate the superblock amount:  subtract the "Subsidy" (POW) and the "Sanc" amount from the "Limit", then subtract 20000 bbp (the original max block value).  This should equal the total contract amount that day - except it might be a tiny bit lower due to our cameroon-one and kairos caps (which use the reverse engineered price and limit the payments for those projects).
Note the deflation is calculated in, but this only changes once per 31 days or so, so if you want to see a decrease in deflation use a future block number way in the future (IE 'exec getgovlimit 372710' shows a 465K limit).


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Does anybody know the status of the Biblepay pool?  I will need to do some CPU mining to get the stake funds necessary for PODC 2.0.  Thanks!
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hi Rob,

i have been podc mining for days and have not received a payment.
very strange.

I have added some money to my staking wallet. also my cpuid comes up on the website so im a bit confused.

   f1205d2ce902f1f1990ae02c5469e499

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January 06, 2020, 02:39:36 PM
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Does anybody know the status of the Biblepay pool?  I will need to do some CPU mining to get the stake funds necessary for PODC 2.0.  Thanks!

It looks like its up, have you switched over to nomp?

http://nomp.biblepay.org


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January 06, 2020, 02:47:56 PM
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hi Rob,

i have been podc mining for days and have not received a payment.
very strange.

I have added some money to my staking wallet. also my cpuid comes up on the website so im a bit confused.

   f1205d2ce902f1f1990ae02c5469e499

Thanks in advance.

Your 99% working .. but a couple things.
Your RAC of 2858 requires a daily stake of 32K coin age.

You did successfully send one good stake out yesterday:

08:42:43

exec sentgsc BFYvhTNBmjt8ZXmkvVj5UJPFy77WQap3Xf
  "886e853323bf119320372cb9c53251fd0ab76bb3ab0f1aa08fb3c4efc191459a": "Points: 0, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 0, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167589, Date: 01-04-2020 05:29:41",
  "a579145a9140d1f36bed8347c91447f7e4d45aa69cf2c75650fd581a7b1788ab": "Points: 32014, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 32014, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167794, Date: 01-05-2020 06:01:39",
  "f964067d2ac2f8b2508c81eb96a180de037f6ab6a9bbc846f858e105c74c650f": "Points: 0, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 0, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167999, Date: 01-06-2020 05:53:52",
  "Total": 32013.80629469835

However #1, it takes 48 hours to receive the payments, so please wait until 1-7-2020 for the one you sent above at height 167794.


Problem #2:  You must ensure the wallet is open during the daily sendgsc wcg height (you can find the height in exec rac, that is height 168202 (see Next_podc_gsc_transmission).  Another words, these escrow tx's must be sent once per day to stay in the leaderboard.  I dont see you in the leaderboard right now, so it looks like what happened is you sent one at 167999, but it sent 0 (probably due to not having enough coinage in the *external purse*).

You can send one manually by typing:  sendgscc wcg

Maybe the problem is you dont have enough funds in your cpk external purse.  You may need to send some BBP to your cpk.  Or you can type 'exec bankroll 50 5000' for example.  This only needs done once.

To find out, type 'exec rac' and paste it here and we can look at your available coinage.

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January 06, 2020, 03:58:46 PM
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Does anybody know the status of the Biblepay pool?  I will need to do some CPU mining to get the stake funds necessary for PODC 2.0.  Thanks!

It looks like its up, have you switched over to nomp?

http://nomp.biblepay.org



No I have not, my config file still points to pool.biblepay.org.  Will that work or should I switch over?
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Does anybody know the status of the Biblepay pool?  I will need to do some CPU mining to get the stake funds necessary for PODC 2.0.  Thanks!

It looks like its up, have you switched over to nomp?

http://nomp.biblepay.org

No I have not, my config file still points to pool.biblepay.org.  Will that work or should I switch over?

I believe only the new external miner works with the NOMP pools,
with the just wallet you can only solo mine, Please anyone correct me if Im mistaken

https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup

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January 06, 2020, 04:20:22 PM
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Does anybody know the status of the Biblepay pool?  I will need to do some CPU mining to get the stake funds necessary for PODC 2.0.  Thanks!

It looks like its up, have you switched over to nomp?

http://nomp.biblepay.org

No I have not, my config file still points to pool.biblepay.org.  Will that work or should I switch over?

I have full instructions on how to pool mine.

https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-nomp-pool-mining.html

I believe only the new external miner works with the NOMP pools,
with the just wallet you can only solo mine, Please anyone correct me if Im mistaken

https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup

You can certainly use the wallet miner if you want to solo mine, but you get better performance using the external miner.

Some have claimed the wallet is 90% efficient, but so far, have been unable to replicate this claim. On the CPUs, I've tried... it is closer to 75% to 80%. Still a vast improvement from the wallet miner before, but you'd still do better to use the external miner (for solo or pool). More details on the comparison here -- thanks to Marty on Discord for testing some different CPUs:

https://whitewalr.us/2020/bbp-solo-hashrate.html

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January 06, 2020, 05:40:12 PM
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hi Rob,

i have been podc mining for days and have not received a payment.
very strange.

I have added some money to my staking wallet. also my cpuid comes up on the website so im a bit confused.

   f1205d2ce902f1f1990ae02c5469e499

Thanks in advance.

Your 99% working .. but a couple things.
Your RAC of 2858 requires a daily stake of 32K coin age.

You did successfully send one good stake out yesterday:

08:42:43

exec sentgsc BFYvhTNBmjt8ZXmkvVj5UJPFy77WQap3Xf
  "886e853323bf119320372cb9c53251fd0ab76bb3ab0f1aa08fb3c4efc191459a": "Points: 0, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 0, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167589, Date: 01-04-2020 05:29:41",
  "a579145a9140d1f36bed8347c91447f7e4d45aa69cf2c75650fd581a7b1788ab": "Points: 32014, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 32014, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167794, Date: 01-05-2020 06:01:39",
  "f964067d2ac2f8b2508c81eb96a180de037f6ab6a9bbc846f858e105c74c650f": "Points: 0, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 0, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167999, Date: 01-06-2020 05:53:52",
  "Total": 32013.80629469835

However #1, it takes 48 hours to receive the payments, so please wait until 1-7-2020 for the one you sent above at height 167794.


Problem #2:  You must ensure the wallet is open during the daily sendgsc wcg height (you can find the height in exec rac, that is height 168202 (see Next_podc_gsc_transmission).  Another words, these escrow tx's must be sent once per day to stay in the leaderboard.  I dont see you in the leaderboard right now, so it looks like what happened is you sent one at 167999, but it sent 0 (probably due to not having enough coinage in the *external purse*).

You can send one manually by typing:  sendgscc wcg

Maybe the problem is you dont have enough funds in your cpk external purse.  You may need to send some BBP to your cpk.  Or you can type 'exec bankroll 50 5000' for example.  This only needs done once.

To find out, type 'exec rac' and paste it here and we can look at your available coinage.

Or go to coin control and see how much is in your CPK address?








Thanks

i will wait till tomorrow. as far as i know i have 150k bbp in external purse. i will check in the morning as i am away from the machine.

i will also send you the rac data too. Thank you
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January 06, 2020, 06:25:11 PM
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Updated the POBH wiki pages to add minersleep config option
https://wiki.biblepay.org/POBH_Setup

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I updated the front page of the website, the menu and a few other pages,
if anyone sees other edits that need to be made, or has feedback, let me know!
http://biblepay.org/

(The main viewed pages are the front page, the wallet page and the mining page)

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Rob, I think you own the server the website is on?

Ive noticed that the wordpress admin page has been really sluggish the past few weeks
(and wordpress sometimes loses connection when trying to edit)

Do you think the server is getting overloaded?

Ive also been getting a popup to confirm the main email address but keep skipping it,

I also noticed that PHP needs to be mandatory upgraded

If you have the time to look into this please do!

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We also need to tackle the high page load times
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg52722797#msg52722797

I dont know if we need to optimize images, remove certain plugins, or if its the server, or wordpress, or some combination or something else, any help from anyone is appreciated! I havent dived in yet, but will soon

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I updated the front page of the website, the menu and a few other pages,
if anyone sees other edits that need to be made, or has feedback, let me know!
http://biblepay.org/

Now that orphan sponsorship payment method of BBP is removed, I wonder if this graphic on the front page is relevant any more?

There's a lot of references surround this. "Helping Orphans: 10% of coins go directly to Charity each month, sponsoring hundreds of orphans"


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Isnt the orphan sponsorship issue just a temporary issue?

My understanding is that currently 13% of all coins each month
(35% of the 38% going to generic smart contracts) goes to POOM (Proof of Orphan Mining) [Charity]

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What is the backstory?, starting out Rob directly got the 10% each month to donate to charities, then when masternodes went live 5 months later, the funds had to be obtained through writing a proposal and being voted yes,

I remember Rob was interested in a Director of Charity Integration role:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7mj66u/hiring_for_director_of_charity_integration/
I believe Jaap helped out with this

but I believe Rob still managed most of the charity donating,
and then later I think some charities did their own proposal creating and handling of BBP coins

POOM was an attempt to try to decentralize the process more? Where the user themselves would fund the charity directly and then slowly get repaid back in BBP coins every day? I never tested POOM and havent kept up to date.

I believe the built-in incentive with POOM is that if theres a low amount of donating happening, the people currently donating get more BBP coins?

But doesnt POOM require more work from the charities?

References:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/POOM
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Paying_For_a_POOM_Sponsored_Child
https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-cameroonone-partnership.html
https://whitewalr.us/2019/cameroonone-poom-charity-donation.html

The crypto bear market hasnt helped this at all, weve had to continually lower our orphan sponsorships

I was totally fine with all the past ways charity has been done with BiblePay, I know a few people have complained, but as long as the charities get donated to Im happy

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I had a DWS (Dynamic Whale Stake) mature last night

"B76TkLSoZ5RCCLCgUJj6iajb4j6Ceo9Xdv 11": "Burned: 1000000.00, Reward: 1016439.15, DWU: 85.7178, Duration: 7, BurnHeight: 166538, RewardHeight: 168325 [167973], MaturityDate: 01-05-2020 22:40:42"

Code:
exec dwsquote 2 1

I believe the superblock for today just hit? Block #168120?
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bbp/block.dws?574393ddb527c9b2d25c1ca7da9dd3201e1102fc02d00b9219b972a03c1b83af.htm

I only received a smart contract reward for PODC

DWS Guide: https://wiki.biblepay.org/DWS_Setup

EDIT: I noticed it says RewardHeight: 168325, so Ill wait for next superblock and report back
I think I got more worried because Im not in the unpaid list anymore

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for dws: I think you need to wait 48 hours after maturity (more likely two block days - 205 x 2).

Rob said he wants charity donations via PayPal or credit card. To me, unless I'm wrong, that means he wants giving to be done off the BiblePay blockchain. Charity continues to be the biggest marketing identity of this coin since the beginning (see radio show from June 2018: https://www.canarycryradio.com/2018/06/01/flyby-what-is-biblepay/). Obviously, charity will continue it sounds like the hope is that anyone that receives BBP will 1) HODL, 2) Not sell to recoup their giving, 3) Not use directly for charity. If the BBP/BTC price is high, then you can give the fiat equivalent easily, but I wonder what would have happened if charities received max BBP per month because the BBP price is low. You can not support every child this way, but giving say 5M BBP to CameroonONE and 2.5M BBP to Kairos when prices are low seems more sustainable if you want to continue the "10% to charity" marketing. I just feel that with making donation via fiat (PayPal, CC, or check) you remove a lot of visibility, transparency, and gives BiblePay less of a use case. Why does BiblePay need to exist then?

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Hey all, I'm running the 1.4.8.5 - Leisure Upgrade version of Biblepay Evolution now.

Question is, I can't get my researcher I registered on WCG this morning to push through in the RPC along with the "wcg_verification_code" and "true"... I joined the Biblepay team on WCG as well.  I created my username successfully. I also have run and completed processing my first work on BOINC and they are pending verification on the WCG site.

I saw something about CPID not being recognized on BBP team for 24 hours or so. I also realize without my credit being approved by the scheduler that I won't have a "RAC" until at least tonight at some point.

So my question is what do I do in order to get on the leaderboard with my points after the WCG scheduler grants me my first credit? Will the verification code thing work to link my BBP wallet to my CPID?

Also, no idea what the cpk is for but I generated one by RPC, the other I created by some other rpc method. Not sure how one ties that to this all. And what is the staking part for? I have coin in my "Staking" labeled address but I also saw something about external purses or having BBP in one of my cpk's?

I'm able to complete work for the team since I've joined and registered with WCG and completed tasks on BOINC but I do need guidance in how to finish connecting to the BBP side so I am on the leaderboard and correctly receiving BBP rewards...

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January 07, 2020, 07:56:13 AM
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hi Rob,

i have been podc mining for days and have not received a payment.
very strange.

I have added some money to my staking wallet. also my cpuid comes up on the website so im a bit confused.

   f1205d2ce902f1f1990ae02c5469e499

Thanks in advance.

Your 99% working .. but a couple things.
Your RAC of 2858 requires a daily stake of 32K coin age.

You did successfully send one good stake out yesterday:

08:42:43

exec sentgsc BFYvhTNBmjt8ZXmkvVj5UJPFy77WQap3Xf
  "886e853323bf119320372cb9c53251fd0ab76bb3ab0f1aa08fb3c4efc191459a": "Points: 0, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 0, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167589, Date: 01-04-2020 05:29:41",
  "a579145a9140d1f36bed8347c91447f7e4d45aa69cf2c75650fd581a7b1788ab": "Points: 32014, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 32014, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167794, Date: 01-05-2020 06:01:39",
  "f964067d2ac2f8b2508c81eb96a180de037f6ab6a9bbc846f858e105c74c650f": "Points: 0, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 0, Donation: 0.00, Height: 167999, Date: 01-06-2020 05:53:52",
  "Total": 32013.80629469835

However #1, it takes 48 hours to receive the payments, so please wait until 1-7-2020 for the one you sent above at height 167794.


Problem #2:  You must ensure the wallet is open during the daily sendgsc wcg height (you can find the height in exec rac, that is height 168202 (see Next_podc_gsc_transmission).  Another words, these escrow tx's must be sent once per day to stay in the leaderboard.  I dont see you in the leaderboard right now, so it looks like what happened is you sent one at 167999, but it sent 0 (probably due to not having enough coinage in the *external purse*).

You can send one manually by typing:  sendgscc wcg

Maybe the problem is you dont have enough funds in your cpk external purse.  You may need to send some BBP to your cpk.  Or you can type 'exec bankroll 50 5000' for example.  This only needs done once.

To find out, type 'exec rac' and paste it here and we can look at your available coinage.

Or go to coin control and see how much is in your CPK address?








Thanks

i will wait till tomorrow. as far as i know i have 150k bbp in external purse. i will check in the morning as i am away from the machine.

i will also send you the rac data too. Thank you



I seem to have had a payment come in so it seems to be working, but i get this message when i excecute exec rac


07:53:18

exec rac


07:53:18

{
  "Command": "rac",
  "cpid": "f1205d2ce902f1f1990ae02c5469e499",
  "temporary_cpid": "f1205d2ce902f1f1990ae02c5469e499",
  "Error": "Your CPID is linked to your CPK, but we are unable to find your research records in WCG; most likely because you are not in team BiblePay yet.",
  "Step 1": "Log into your WCG account at 'worldcommunitygrid.org' with your WCG E-mail address and WCG password.",
  "Step 2": "Click Settings | My Profile.  Record your 'Username' and 'Verification Code' and your 'CPID' (Cross-Project-ID).",
  "Step 3": "Click Settings | Data Sharing.  Ensure the 'Display my Data' radio button is selected.  Click Save. ",
  "Step 4": "Click My Contribution | My Team.  If you are not part of Team 'BiblePay' click Join Team | Search | BiblePay | Select BiblePay | Click Join Team | Save.",
  "Step 5": "NOTE: After choosing your team, and starting your research, please give WCG 24 hours for the CPID to propagate into BBP.  In the mean time you can start Boinc research - and ensure the computer is performing WCG tasks. ",
  "Step 6": "From our RPC console, type, exec associate your_username your_verification_code",
  "Step 7": "Wait for 5 blocks to pass.  Then type 'exec rac' again, and see if you are linked!  ",
  "Step 8": "Once you are linked you will receive daily rewards.  Please read about our minimum stake requirements per RAC here: wiki.biblepay.org/PODC"
}

according to wcg i am definitely part of the team.
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