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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 240880 times)
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March 26, 2020, 03:47:19 PM
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Hello all,

I discovered yesterday that the mandatory upgrade was taking place and upgraded my wallet and also my masternode. Everything went smoothly. Smiley

Just a couple of quick questions:
1. What is gonna happen to PODC now? Is it (going to be) deprecated, or continuing as before? Is there some kind of prognosis about the profitability PODC vs. BBB/XMR RandomX?

2. My wallet now shows the following versionreport:
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{
  "Version": "Popularity,Percent %",
  "1487": "188; 91.70%",
  "1507": "17; 8.29%"
}
What does that mean for the masternode payments, if currently not even 10% of masternodes are on the right chain?

3. I tried the NOMP pool for RandomX and it works just fine for me (except that my Win10 machine has its RAM too crowded to provide huge pages *lol*). The pool pays matured blocks right away, that means it doesn't collect any balances up to a payout level, right? Is the payout method the same for BBP and XMR?  (not that I'm expecting much of a payout anyway with my 2 CPUs Cheesy)

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work! Smiley

God bless you all in these troublesome times.
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March 26, 2020, 03:55:59 PM
Last edit: March 26, 2020, 04:56:15 PM by eternalenvoy
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Hello all,

I discovered yesterday that the mandatory upgrade was taking place and upgraded my wallet and also my masternode. Everything went smoothly. Smiley

Just a couple of quick questions:
1. What is gonna happen to PODC now? Is it (going to be) deprecated, or continuing as before? Is there some kind of prognosis about the profitability PODC vs. BBB/XMR RandomX?

2. My wallet now shows the following versionreport:
Code:
{
  "Version": "Popularity,Percent %",
  "1487": "188; 91.70%",
  "1507": "17; 8.29%"
}
What does that mean for the masternode payments, if currently not even 10% of masternodes are on the right chain?

3. I tried the NOMP pool for RandomX and it works just fine for me (except that my Win10 machine has its RAM too crowded to provide huge pages *lol*). The pool pays matured blocks right away, that means it doesn't collect any balances up to a payout level, right? Is the payout method the same for BBP and XMR?  (not that I'm expecting much of a payout anyway with my 2 CPUs Cheesy)

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work! Smiley

God bless you all in these troublesome times.

I have the same question what you mentioned.


In addition, use https://biblepay.org/biblepayd-evo-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
to get the 1507 version, but the biblepayd is crashed / forced to stop after a few seconds ... even delete all data to a new wallet.
I don't know what happened..

Edited:
Use Build BiblePay method is solved the problem and running normal.
It seems something went wrong with the compiled version?
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March 26, 2020, 04:33:09 PM
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Hello all,

I discovered yesterday that the mandatory upgrade was taking place and upgraded my wallet and also my masternode. Everything went smoothly. Smiley

Just a couple of quick questions:
1. What is gonna happen to PODC now? Is it (going to be) deprecated, or continuing as before? Is there some kind of prognosis about the profitability PODC vs. BBB/XMR RandomX?

2. My wallet now shows the following versionreport:
Code:
{
  "Version": "Popularity,Percent %",
  "1487": "188; 91.70%",
  "1507": "17; 8.29%"
}
What does that mean for the masternode payments, if currently not even 10% of masternodes are on the right chain?

3. I tried the NOMP pool for RandomX and it works just fine for me (except that my Win10 machine has its RAM too crowded to provide huge pages *lol*). The pool pays matured blocks right away, that means it doesn't collect any balances up to a payout level, right? Is the payout method the same for BBP and XMR?  (not that I'm expecting much of a payout anyway with my 2 CPUs Cheesy)

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work! Smiley

God bless you all in these troublesome times.

Hi Dave,

1. What is gonna happen to PODC now? Is it (going to be) deprecated, or continuing as before? Is there some kind of prognosis about the profitability PODC vs. BBB/XMR RandomX?

-> We don't have plans to retire PODC at all, impho I really like it too.    It makes half of our mining "green" and the other half "heat" roughly.  We have a breakdown of 30% for GSC, 20% governance, 25% sanc and 25% heat.  If RX is a success I could see us lowering POOM (which is 40% of the GSC budget) and moving that to RX, and having RX pay for the POOM expenses.  Then later, if its ever more of a success we regroup and consider moving some of the percentages from PODC to RX - but only if we see our price rising due to the success of RX, etc.  We have to go with what makes us successful.  But for now, we have plenty of room for improvements in other areas.

2. My wallet now shows the following versionreport:
Code:
{
  "Version": "Popularity,Percent %",
  "1487": "188; 91.70%",
  "1507": "17; 8.29%"
}
What does that mean for the masternode payments, if currently not even 10% of masternodes are on the right chain?

->  The versionreport actually reports the last 205 blocks, and since we have had a slow chain for 24 hours, its not up to date yet.  Please run it in 12 more hours.
But I can say this, we must have had a successful upgrade because after the cutover height everyone before 1507 is kicked off. 

3. I tried the NOMP pool for RandomX and it works just fine for me (except that my Win10 machine has its RAM too crowded to provide huge pages *lol*). The pool pays matured blocks right away, that means it doesn't collect any balances up to a payout level, right? Is the payout method the same for BBP and XMR?  (not that I'm expecting much of a payout anyway with my 2 CPUs Cheesy)

-> The payment you got was probably from the legacy pool; rx.biblepay.org still pays out after the block has matured, so we have another 105 blocks to go then you should see a payment from that pool.  I did change the address to a new wallet so it should show a distinct trail (as we started from scratch with RX).

God bless you too.


Let me know if I forgot to answer something.



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March 26, 2020, 05:29:19 PM
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I don't have a comparison ratio handy for XMR vs PODC yet.  I think we can do that, once we get a little more XMR info.  Maybe we should wait a week then make one.  Maybe Sun would like to pick that up as it sounds like it would be very useful if he had some type of updating page, like a payout calculator for one vs the other etc.

I am updating a reward.csv daily and making charts from it. I'm not familiar with XMR so much. My Q2 is extremely full, so I may observe and thinking about it before I actually attempt an ROI calculator. But perhaps a break-even line chart (between sanctuary, podc, heat miner) may work too. Like I previously asked about PoDC RAC to BBP ratio, it is not easy to pull because all the gsc payments are combined for each user. Perhaps if each campaign is paid separately and having unique decimals (like 1527 is for DWS angel number) then I imagine it'd be easier to pull. Anyway, not a big deal, I'm sure I can pull out PoDC RAC to BBP ratio by taking the median value somehow.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ep5G9rG-M460OZYLOd4NHv5sWFDwe_Ow_wop-Fi_SQU/edit#gid=35272442

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March 26, 2020, 07:14:22 PM
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Thank you Rob for your detailed answers. I'm excited to see what the next couple of days hold in store for us. Right now the pool seems to find blocks quite nicely. Wink
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March 26, 2020, 07:21:09 PM
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I don't have a comparison ratio handy for XMR vs PODC yet.  I think we can do that, once we get a little more XMR info.  Maybe we should wait a week then make one.  Maybe Sun would like to pick that up as it sounds like it would be very useful if he had some type of updating page, like a payout calculator for one vs the other etc.

I am updating a reward.csv daily and making charts from it. I'm not familiar with XMR so much. My Q2 is extremely full, so I may observe and thinking about it before I actually attempt an ROI calculator. But perhaps a break-even line chart (between sanctuary, podc, heat miner) may work too. Like I previously asked about PoDC RAC to BBP ratio, it is not easy to pull because all the gsc payments are combined for each user. Perhaps if each campaign is paid separately and having unique decimals (like 1527 is for DWS angel number) then I imagine it'd be easier to pull. Anyway, not a big deal, I'm sure I can pull out PoDC RAC to BBP ratio by taking the median value somehow.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ep5G9rG-M460OZYLOd4NHv5sWFDwe_Ow_wop-Fi_SQU/edit#gid=35272442

These are all nice reports.

Well, maybe I can help over the next week or so.  The 'exec price' command displays Dash and BBP so far.  Ill make an item on my list to add XMR to this command.
Once we have that, we can make another command that gives PODC RAC ratio (RAC->Reward), and then we need yet another call to find out how much each HPS pays from each side of the pool (BBP PPH and XMR PPH).  Then I guess we can consolidate it into something useful.





Thank you Rob for your detailed answers. I'm excited to see what the next couple of days hold in store for us. Right now the pool seems to find blocks quite nicely. Wink

Yeah, this RX is kind of funny in that we have double the pool miners already and our diff has gone from 5000 to .26.

Its amazing how low the diff is for 2.3 mh/s.

Learning from the past, apparently harder is better.


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March 26, 2020, 08:26:07 PM
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Haven't received podc rewards since updating the wallet.  Are they simply delayed?  Thanks!
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March 26, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
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Haven't received podc rewards since updating the wallet.  Are they simply delayed?  Thanks!

They were delayed approx 20 hours due to the slow chain, but, paid 11 blocks ago.

block 184725


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March 26, 2020, 09:49:16 PM
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I don't have a comparison ratio handy for XMR vs PODC yet.  I think we can do that, once we get a little more XMR info.  Maybe we should wait a week then make one.  Maybe Sun would like to pick that up as it sounds like it would be very useful if he had some type of updating page, like a payout calculator for one vs the other etc.

I am updating a reward.csv daily and making charts from it. I'm not familiar with XMR so much. My Q2 is extremely full, so I may observe and thinking about it before I actually attempt an ROI calculator. But perhaps a break-even line chart (between sanctuary, podc, heat miner) may work too. Like I previously asked about PoDC RAC to BBP ratio, it is not easy to pull because all the gsc payments are combined for each user. Perhaps if each campaign is paid separately and having unique decimals (like 1527 is for DWS angel number) then I imagine it'd be easier to pull. Anyway, not a big deal, I'm sure I can pull out PoDC RAC to BBP ratio by taking the median value somehow.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ep5G9rG-M460OZYLOd4NHv5sWFDwe_Ow_wop-Fi_SQU/edit#gid=35272442

These are all nice reports.

Well, maybe I can help over the next week or so.  The 'exec price' command displays Dash and BBP so far.  Ill make an item on my list to add XMR to this command.
Once we have that, we can make another command that gives PODC RAC ratio (RAC->Reward), and then we need yet another call to find out how much each HPS pays from each side of the pool (BBP PPH and XMR PPH).  Then I guess we can consolidate it into something useful.

re: exec price - i've been getting data daily from coingecko, so I could probably pull in other altcoins easily.

the podc rac to bbp ratio will definitely help immensely.

pool hash rate to bbp and xmr earnings would be amazing!

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March 26, 2020, 10:24:56 PM
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Hello. How to choose a miner in HiveOS for mining BBP on the RandomX algorithm
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March 26, 2020, 10:51:07 PM
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Hello. How to choose a miner in HiveOS for mining BBP on the RandomX algorithm

I believe first we would need Hive to add us to the custom OS binary links:

https://hiveos.farm/getting_started-start_custom_miner

If anyone out there would like to take this on and make the request, ask Hive to add our linux binary (I assume hiveos generally runs on ubuntu) and optionally follow through to see if it works etc.


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Hallo,

Is the pool dead? Only getting XMR charity jobs at the moment...
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Hallo,

Is the pool dead? Only getting XMR charity jobs at the moment...

Same here, must be a glitch with the BBP daemon. Will come back up soon. Solo miners, enjoy this brief session of luck Smiley
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March 27, 2020, 11:51:01 AM
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Hallo,

Is the pool dead? Only getting XMR charity jobs at the moment...

Same here, must be a glitch with the BBP daemon. Will come back up soon. Solo miners, enjoy this brief session of luck Smiley

Hmmm, I see an error in the log, something about work queue depth exceeded.

Ill restart it and look into the root cause today.


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March 27, 2020, 11:58:01 AM
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Same here, must be a glitch with the BBP daemon. Will come back up soon. Solo miners, enjoy this brief session of luck Smiley

I was worrying already that I might be on a fork since I got 8 blocks within the last 6 hours.
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March 27, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
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Same here, must be a glitch with the BBP daemon. Will come back up soon. Solo miners, enjoy this brief session of luck Smiley

I was worrying already that I might be on a fork since I got 8 blocks within the last 6 hours.

Thats awesome, just for reference what kind of HPS are you running solo mining?


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Same here, must be a glitch with the BBP daemon. Will come back up soon. Solo miners, enjoy this brief session of luck Smiley

I was worrying already that I might be on a fork since I got 8 blocks within the last 6 hours.

Thats awesome, just for reference what kind of HPS are you running solo mining?



About 197k hps with a Ryzen 1700X with 32 genproclimit.
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March 27, 2020, 05:28:09 PM
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Same here, must be a glitch with the BBP daemon. Will come back up soon. Solo miners, enjoy this brief session of luck Smiley

I was worrying already that I might be on a fork since I got 8 blocks within the last 6 hours.

Thats awesome, just for reference what kind of HPS are you running solo mining?



About 197k hps with a Ryzen 1700X with 32 genproclimit.

How do you solo mine? Just wallet mining solo? It is only for BBP (but not XMR I assume).

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Welp, I didn't upgrade yet and was on a fork indeed Roll Eyes

But just wallet mining solo, yeah.
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March 28, 2020, 04:08:57 AM
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** Rx.biblepay.org Pool Down for a short period **

EDIT: Its up.  I will look into the root cause next.

minexmr.com's SSL configuration is causing issues for some people. I don't know if it is related to your pool issues. Also, their certificate is expiring in 3 days. I've let them know, but not sure if that's an issue too. Anyway, it is possible the rx's issues may be related to the upstream xmr pool.

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