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[zulover]

Just relax and stay calm. Its all under control.

Just read a few pages back everything is explained.dividend will be paid together with next weeks manually by labrat.

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[oldbushie]

Yeah, you just have to follow the instructions on the main website to verify your wallet.

[fractal02]

Coins Mined: ~85
Payout: ~61.25
Per Bond: ~0.001104

The Diff is hard on this one...

Hopefully new hardware is coming.

[pascal257]

And, no. There is no breach of contract here.

Could you quote part of the contract that allowed him to charge the fee?

or are you planning on moving to another exchange?

Errr, what exchange exactly do you suggest? There are none left other than Havelock and I for one would not place much effort in making a switch as you can fully expect that they will be the next group to be in the focus of the SEC. If you were to read a little further you would see that LRM is working on a viable longer term solution which is based on self trading within his own website etc. This will also serve (I expect) to keep him onside of securities laws in the USA which are not something to be trifled with.....

You seem to live in the illusion that the US governs the world, while it seems that they can't even govern themselves. Havelock nor their operators are based in the US, so the SEC can go fuck themselves.

There's a reason exchanges exist, I don't think it's a good development that each stock wants to start its own internal/direct exchange.

[bigasic]

Coins Mined: ~85
Payout: ~61.25
Per Bond: ~0.001104

Dave stated he'd be setting up hardware next week and getting it ready to send out.  He will be sending it out in large bundles probably over the course of a week to 14 days as setting up this much equipment isn't an easy task.  It will start rolling in next week and what it accumulates between time of arrival and 14 days after it is all received will 100% go into additional hardware.  Dave is speaking of major major price decreases between this order and the next which means that the coins this equipment mines will not only have more purchasing power in terms of equipment price, but also BTC price.

I did wait until the last minute to take advantage of BTC price increases that have occurred recently.

I'm working on a verification spreadsheet to post that will alert anyone who has not verified addresses with me that I hope to have up tomorrow.  There is a lot going on right now, but I am working on it.

That was a great gamble that paid off.. From the looks of it, we will be able to get 20-50 percent more hashing power.. (depends on what the original deal was) Lets hope Dave goes by the Mt.Gox exchange disney dollars, lol..... I hope he atleast will go off of coinbase (they seem to be the best for selling right now)

[fran2k]

I am hoping to buy more bonds, I just would like to know how that will be done, after this BF mess is dealt with...

ˆThisˆ Exchange via this forum I guess.

[Ashitank]

Hey guys when sending e-mail to Lab_rat for conforming shares , is e-mails body suppose to be the message that I need to sign , or can I use any message of my own.

[||bit]

Hey guys when sending e-mail to Lab_rat for conforming shares , is e-mails body suppose to be the message that I need to sign , or can I use any message of my own.

That's my understanding. You sign the message of the body of the email, and avoid any extra spaces in the body on the start or end of each line of the body. That means it is probably best to not have a empty line above the body. So, if your bitfunder identifying address (a valid bitcoin address) were "1exampleJgoWFJT7eRWWXwaTpSfpGwe3Tz", the email subject line would be "1exampleJgoWFJT7eRWWXwaTpSfpGwe3Tz". But I think the bitcoin address in the body can be any valid address you have. The below is an example of the body, where the red text is the part of the body that is signed:
                                                                                               
Bonds: 50
Name: your_sending_email_address @ yahoo_or_whatever.com
BTC Address: 1exampleJgoWFJT7eRWWXwaTpSfpGwe3Tz

[copy/paste the valid signature below that, and send the email]
                                                                                               

[zulover]

 cant seem to transfer coins from weexchange to bitfunder, has the facility been cancelled now?

[hasher87]

cant seem to transfer coins from weexchange to bitfunder, has the facility been cancelled now?

whats your current weexchange status? verified? are you a non-us?

[zulover]

uk, unverified but i bought some earlier in the day

[BKM]

You seem to live in the illusion that the US governs the world, while it seems that they can't even govern themselves. Havelock nor their operators are based in the US, so the SEC can go fuck themselves.

There's a reason exchanges exist, I don't think it's a good development that each stock wants to start its own internal/direct exchange.

Who is fucking who here? LRM is in the USA and is governed by US law. SEC is in charge of anything IN THE USA that might be construed as a public stock offering. So, perhaps you would like to take a breath and check your shit before you spout FUD like a troll. If Havelock is making what might be construed as a public offering of shares available for purchase directly by USA citizens they most certainly will have something to say about it. Bitfunder is in Australia and a lot of good that did.

Bottom line is that LRM is working on it. If you do not trust him to sort it out let me know and I would be happy to buy your bonds from you at current rates.

[zulover]

the u.s. can screw anyone

[||bit]

This seems interesting enough to note. For two reasons. (1) price/volume action and (2) shifts in exchange popularity.

The weekly volume last week on BitStamp was apparently it's highest on record, and this is accompanied with new highs since mid/late-April. The same isn't true of volume on MtGox (which has had problems):

[pascal257]

You seem to live in the illusion that the US governs the world, while it seems that they can't even govern themselves. Havelock nor their operators are based in the US, so the SEC can go fuck themselves.

There's a reason exchanges exist, I don't think it's a good development that each stock wants to start its own internal/direct exchange.

Who is fucking who here? LRM is in the USA and is governed by US law. SEC is in charge of anything IN THE USA that might be construed as a public stock offering. So, perhaps you would like to take a breath and check your shit before you spout FUD like a troll. If Havelock is making what might be construed as a public offering of shares available for purchase directly by USA citizens they most certainly will have something to say about it. Bitfunder is in Australia and a lot of good that did.

Bottom line is that LRM is working on it. If you do not trust him to sort it out let me know and I would be happy to buy your bonds from you at current rates.

And you think creating a separate exchange would solve that problem? Doesn't that just create another attack vector for the SEC?

Just btw, I'm totally cool here. You on the other hand seem a bit nervous, attacking me for raising a few concerns, maybe you should take a deep breath next time you rage around here.

[||bit]

You seem to live in the illusion that the US governs the world, while it seems that they can't even govern themselves. Havelock nor their operators are based in the US, so the SEC can go fuck themselves.

There's a reason exchanges exist, I don't think it's a good development that each stock wants to start its own internal/direct exchange.

Who is fucking who here? LRM is in the USA and is governed by US law. SEC is in charge of anything IN THE USA that might be construed as a public stock offering. So, perhaps you would like to take a breath and check your shit before you spout FUD like a troll. If Havelock is making what might be construed as a public offering of shares available for purchase directly by USA citizens they most certainly will have something to say about it. Bitfunder is in Australia and a lot of good that did.

Bottom line is that LRM is working on it. If you do not trust him to sort it out let me know and I would be happy to buy your bonds from you at current rates.

And you think creating a separate exchange would solve that problem? Doesn't that just create another attack vector for the SEC?

Just btw, I'm totally cool here. You on the other hand seem a bit nervous, attacking me for raising a few concerns, maybe you should take a deep breath next time you rage around here.

There are some semantic questions that probably should be answered first, before people get excited about SEC relevance. Such as:
Is LRM even issuing legitimate bonds or shares?
How is being a group purchase of hardware different than either of these?

Personally, I don't think the "bonds" qualify as shares because those buying "bonds" have no equity in LRM - i.e. they are not owners of the hardware purchased by LRM. That's despite the fact that Labrat even called it more like a group purchase of hardware. So, that leaves the question, are the "bonds" actual bonds.

[levi]

Is it just me or is BitFunder's login not working? Trying to send off my share confirmation email but I wanted to check my address details are up to date, seems I can't right now.

[crumbs]

Is it just me or is BitFunder's login not working? Trying to send off my share confirmation email but I wanted to check my address details are up to date, seems I can't right now.

Not just you.

[ipxtreme]

Is it just me or is BitFunder's login not working? Trying to send off my share confirmation email but I wanted to check my address details are up to date, seems I can't right now.

Not just you.

same here. Not able to log into Bitfunder right now.

[mufa23]

Works for me (right now).