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September 15, 2013, 11:34:37 PM
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I guess they couldn't make it in time and decided to skip to 130 nm.  Now they are struggling with the 130 nm.

Heh.

I think I've heard this music before, but I can't quite put my finger on  where....  Smiley



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September 16, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
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I guess they couldn't make it in time and decided to skip to 130 nm.  Now they are struggling with the 130 nm.

Heh.

I think I've heard this music before, but I can't quite put my finger on  where....  Smiley



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Yeah, I was working on a 1cm chip, I might have to go to 0.5cm now... Tongue

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September 16, 2013, 05:34:30 AM
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oh yeah...this sums it up well Smiley

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September 16, 2013, 07:15:22 AM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley
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September 16, 2013, 09:51:19 AM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

Hopefully this will be the case in one month. Assuming the BitFury hardware comes in.

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September 16, 2013, 02:16:53 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

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September 16, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

is your estimated 300+ from a partial shipment of bitfury or are you still receiving other ASIC hardware?
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September 16, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

Cant wait for that to happen soon enough Lab_Rat  Cheesy
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September 16, 2013, 04:08:16 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

Sounds great Lab_Rat!

No doubt you have already seen the Bitfury modding / tuning thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287590.0 but just in case not, there you go!

So great to see the BF community maximizing value on BF gear and sharing the benefits!
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September 16, 2013, 08:07:50 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

is your estimated 300+ from a partial shipment of bitfury or are you still receiving other ASIC hardware?

I have the same question.

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September 16, 2013, 08:22:17 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

is your estimated 300+ from a partial shipment of bitfury or are you still receiving other ASIC hardware?

I have the same question.

I suspect that you are asking the wrong question. My guess is that the 300MH/s/bond will be from a full delivery of BitFury hardware, and that the remaining hashrate/bond will come from other manufacturers, so the question should probably be "what other hardware is coming after BitFury?"

I also think his post strongly implies that little/no hardware will be arriving in the meatime (other than the temp hashrate from Dave). But this could be all wrong.
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September 16, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

Good news for the 300+MH/s jump, we need this asap as the difficulty is rising quick. 
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I think price will be low till each share hashing power goes beyond atleast  100+ Mh/S as there are some other bonds/shares that are cheaper than LRM & provide more Mh/s per share compared to LRM, but LRM has great potential once each bond starts to go beyond 200 Mh/S per share..  Smiley

The only issue is that it looks like were going to go from ~75MH/s per share straight up to at least 300+... I hope everyone is ok with that?

I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

is your estimated 300+ from a partial shipment of bitfury or are you still receiving other ASIC hardware?

I have the same question.

I suspect that you are asking the wrong question. My guess is that the 300MH/s/bond will be from a full delivery of BitFury hardware, and that the remaining hashrate/bond will come from other manufacturers, so the question should probably be "what other hardware is coming after BitFury?"

I also think his post strongly implies that little/no hardware will be arriving in the meatime (other than the temp hashrate from Dave). But this could be all wrong.

The only 28nm hardware Labrat has on order, that I know of, are the Monarchs. I thought the bulk of the 30+TH of hardware to be ordered was going to be Bitfury.
Hopefully, we aren't waiting on just Butterfly Labs to deliver the remaining hardware after whenever the nice bump to 300+MH happens.

Labrat said he has some news on the way - sounds interesting. Maybe that will answer those questions.

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September 16, 2013, 11:09:58 PM
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Yes it would be good to get a complete run down of what is left to be delivered of ordered/paid for equipment and the expected date.  Then maybe a forward projection of equipment that is going to be ordered with left over/new funds over the next few months. 
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I have a lot of news on the way, hopefully some today, but some news is going to have to wait a little while to release.

yeah some news would be great...  Wink
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Yea, im excited as to what the news is...I believe its going to be pretty good. whatever the news is, I bet it makes the bond price go up....
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Yea, im excited as to what the news is...I believe its going to be pretty good. whatever the news is, I bet it makes the bond price go up....

Seems that no news or insight into actual money use is where a lot of the instability or price decay comes from. Might be why some people are apparently selling out instead of holding... unless they were original buyers just looking to make a quick buck, but met with disappointment that it didn't pop or soar as they'd hoped by now.

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September 17, 2013, 10:44:32 PM
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My guess would be that Lab_Rat doesn't want to specifically say he's hooking up say, another 3TH or whatever today, then disappoint due to a technical glitch.  No news is fine with me, as I know that when the LR does speak, it's important and positive.

I'm pretty happy with it flying low right now, as I doubt I'd have much chance to buy cheap shares once he's running at >600MH/s/share or even 300 for that matter.

Also, if Lab_Rat gets into details here, he'll have everyone pick apart his every word, and end up wasting a lot of time and stress for no gain.  Best to run silent, run deep, and just get the job done I reckon.



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September 18, 2013, 12:26:18 AM
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My guess would be that Lab_Rat doesn't want to specifically say he's hooking up say, another 3TH or whatever today, then disappoint due to a technical glitch.  No news is fine with me, as I know that when the LR does speak, it's important and positive.

I'm pretty happy with it flying low right now, as I doubt I'd have much chance to buy cheap shares once he's running at >600MH/s/share or even 300 for that matter.

Also, if Lab_Rat gets into details here, he'll have everyone pick apart his every word, and end up wasting a lot of time and stress for no gain.  Best to run silent, run deep, and just get the job done I reckon.

Too many details would be a hassle, so, I can understand that. But some more transparency on plans might be helpful. That may still come though. For example: the plan to beat difficutly is, imo, the most important. True that 600MH/bond is six times better than 100MH, but in what context? What does that mean if difficulty is six times higher when you achieve 600MH?

LRM is still in the start up phase as far as I'm concerned, but the basic plans for the long haul would be helpful to know. I'm not sure on whether 25% re-investment is sufficient to match difficulty.

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September 18, 2013, 12:32:38 AM
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My guess would be that Lab_Rat doesn't want to specifically say he's hooking up say, another 3TH or whatever today, then disappoint due to a technical glitch.  No news is fine with me, as I know that when the LR does speak, it's important and positive.

I'm pretty happy with it flying low right now, as I doubt I'd have much chance to buy cheap shares once he's running at >600MH/s/share or even 300 for that matter.

Also, if Lab_Rat gets into details here, he'll have everyone pick apart his every word, and end up wasting a lot of time and stress for no gain.  Best to run silent, run deep, and just get the job done I reckon.

Too many details would be a hassle, so, I can understand that. But some more transparency on plans might be helpful. That may still come though. For example: the plan to beat difficutly is, imo, the most important. True that 600MH/bond is six times better than 100MH, but in what context? What does that mean if difficulty is six times higher when you achieve 600MH?

LRM is still in the start up phase as far as I'm concerned, but the basic plans for the long haul would be helpful to know. I'm not sure on whether 25% re-investment is sufficient to match difficulty.

It's a complex question with complex answers. However, there are a lot of not-stupid people with a vested interest in getting that right, or as right as can be with incomplete information. The difficulty is that there are also a lot of stupid people who think they know how to play it, and sorting the wheat from the chaff wrt who to listen to is non-trivial in itself...  Tongue

(This is not aimed at anyone - just a general comment about both the bitcoin community and more generally, the world)
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