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November 09, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
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How much is people selling LRM bonds nowadays? Anyone selling? If so.. how much.
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November 09, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
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The 30 Ghs Little Singles are currently bringing in ~$700 on eBay, if you want to go that route.
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November 09, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
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How much is people selling LRM bonds nowadays? Anyone selling? If so.. how much.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320578.0
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November 09, 2013, 08:52:52 PM
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One problem... why is this stuck in queue? Transaction fee is less than recommended... 20 hours (queue position 3204)

https://blockchain.info/tx/56f6d324d19ca629e9bb6e047e4d86786f299542b3216a0a76f33b07a90009a1

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November 09, 2013, 08:55:11 PM
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0.0001BTC transaction fee paid, which is really low for a tx of this size....

blockchain.info predicts 18 hours before it gets accepted....



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November 09, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
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I need a little clarity,

I thought it would only be 14 days total of dividends (minus the ~5TH) going to LRM directly but now it seems that it's all the days until "All the boards come in" + 14 Days so it actually ends up being over 21 days or am I misunderstanding.
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November 09, 2013, 09:53:13 PM
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So we're back to this again? ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t93PJlv3EgQ

that was FUNNY! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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November 09, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
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LabRat, I am so relieved!

Thanks for the transfer of my bonds and the subsequently payout of old dividends, I know I have been lax with the BitFunder Issue and approached you very late to solve it.

I never intended to give you a hard time on this , I was just taken in by my job so I procrastinated in my private time Smiley

Cheers to you and your patience!

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November 09, 2013, 10:48:04 PM
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I need a little clarity,

I thought it would only be 14 days total of dividends (minus the ~5TH) going to LRM directly but now it seems that it's all the days until "All the boards come in" + 14 Days so it actually ends up being over 21 days or am I misunderstanding.

If this can bring us to 100 TH/s why not...I just hope LabRat don't sell to much more bonds and dissolve even more dividends / Hashrate per bonds...

My goal is to have 100+TH up by the end of the year, but I'm thinking Feb is a more likely estimate.
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November 09, 2013, 11:06:36 PM
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I need a little clarity,

I thought it would only be 14 days total of dividends (minus the ~5TH) going to LRM directly but now it seems that it's all the days until "All the boards come in" + 14 Days so it actually ends up being over 21 days or am I misunderstanding.

If this can bring us to 100 TH/s why not...I just hope LabRat don't sell to much more bonds and dissolve even more dividends / Hashrate per bonds...

My goal is to have 100+TH up by the end of the year, but I'm thinking Feb is a more likely estimate.

The price of bitcoin probably has a lot to do with that projection. Buying power of bitcoin has more than tripled since initial bond purchases. It won't be surprising if he can buy even more hardware than that in the next few months. Especially, if bitcoin keeps on this rip. $500 to $800 per bitcoin is possible in the near future.
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November 10, 2013, 03:10:51 AM
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My goal is to have 100+TH up by the end of the year, but I'm thinking Feb is a more likely estimate.
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November 10, 2013, 05:25:06 AM
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I need a little clarity,

I thought it would only be 14 days total of dividends (minus the ~5TH) going to LRM directly but now it seems that it's all the days until "All the boards come in" + 14 Days so it actually ends up being over 21 days or am I misunderstanding.

I ask the same question but no answer so I assume answer is yes
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November 10, 2013, 07:12:57 AM
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I need a little clarity,

I thought it would only be 14 days total of dividends (minus the ~5TH) going to LRM directly but now it seems that it's all the days until "All the boards come in" + 14 Days so it actually ends up being over 21 days or am I misunderstanding.

I ask the same question but no answer so I assume answer is yes

Whatever the answer - it is all going to hardware. Curious also if any is the November KNC batch - sorely tempted to pull the trigger on that
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November 10, 2013, 11:15:05 AM
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Hi LabRat,

Thanks for the new info. Can you give any estimates of the speed per bond by the time you reach ~100THs?

I was kinda disappointed with this weeks payout (almost half of last week) but I guess it's due to the diff jump.
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November 10, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
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Hi LabRat,

Thanks for the new info. Can you give any estimates of the speed per bond by the time you reach ~100THs?

I was kinda disappointed with this weeks payout (almost half of last week) but I guess it's due to the diff jump.

Also I would like to know if Lab_Rat plans to issue further new bonds  ? which may further dilute dividends per share but at this point should not be the case as he is getting to mine for 14 + days on newly revived hardware.
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November 10, 2013, 11:56:19 AM
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Hi LabRat,

Thanks for the new info. Can you give any estimates of the speed per bond by the time you reach ~100THs?

I was kinda disappointed with this weeks payout (almost half of last week) but I guess it's due to the diff jump.

The hashrate per bond must be more than 1GH/s to attract new bonds holders.
Because right now, we can have 1GH/s on CEX.IO for 0.095BTC (still overpriced as hell...)

Hashrate per bonds at the moment on LRM is 81MH/s per bond...
After the "14 days", maybe around 493MH/s per bonds.

LabRat must make them competitive/attractive before selling more bonds.

I know it's a pretty damn hard work for LabRat (and BitFunder fiasco didn't help)...but i'm pretty confident for futur of LRM (and my wallet  Grin )
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November 10, 2013, 12:49:03 PM
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General point about the selling of new bonds:

Any new bonds sold will always increase the hashrate per bond for initial bond holders and therefore shouldn't be referred to as a "dilution". Bonds will never be sold in situations when the amount got for them buys less hashing power than currently issued bonds hold, and so will only increase the rate per bond for existing holders. This was a fundamental part of the initial offering and what attracted many people to this whole operation.

You should not fear future expansion, it is only to be embraced! Cheesy
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November 10, 2013, 03:42:02 PM
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General point about the selling of new bonds:

Any new bonds sold will always increase the hashrate per bond for initial bond holders and therefore shouldn't be referred to as a "dilution". Bonds will never be sold in situations when the amount got for them buys less hashing power than currently issued bonds hold, and so will only increase the rate per bond for existing holders. This was a fundamental part of the initial offering and what attracted many people to this whole operation.

You should not fear future expansion, it is only to be embraced! Cheesy

Labrat took your 0.15 btc and invested it to become 0.07 btc (before bitfunder announced anything). The purchases did not outpace difficulty. What makes you think second round funding will be any better?

Combine that with a lack of transparency and no accountability,  and a history of poor management (new mandatory fees, no accounting statements, months with no update to hashrate or hardware info), and competition that is doing all the above - I think it best LR shows he can succeed with the 1 million USD we gave him before he asks for more.
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November 10, 2013, 03:49:33 PM
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The purchases did not outpace difficulty. What makes you think second round funding will be any better?


The future expansion plans are outlined specifically in the IPO T&Cs. Any future expansion will not be diluting; the hash-rate per bond will not drop when further new shares are sold. I think it's pretty clear in the initial document, so if we assume that those terms will be stuck to then that's what makes me think that the second round will be "better".

Obviously if they're not stuck to then that's a different story, but for now I'm just working with what is out there. If we assume that those words will be gone back on then we may as well also assume that divs will stop being paid and that the share price will then go to zero... But that is what makes me think there will be no dilution.
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November 10, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
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I really hope LabRat work with more Hardware sellers than Bitfury or BFL...

Bitfury for the moment is OK but LRM should not depend on a single vendor...it can be very hurting...(delays, out of stock, bankruptcy, etc, etc...)

At the moment ~ 5.5 TH/s is 10 KNCminer Jupiter...and i think LabRat underrated KNCminer.

A word from LabRat about futur hardware purchase is more than welcome
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