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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right?
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January 19, 2014, 10:05:13 PM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had
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January 19, 2014, 10:09:08 PM |
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+1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs.
Bitmains are well under $9/gh. I think these need a 30% price drop now.
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January 19, 2014, 10:12:21 PM |
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alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had "sudo poweroff" before you cycle power and everything will be fine.
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January 19, 2014, 10:14:56 PM |
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alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation I don't understand this  Doing a " sudo shutdown -h now" should prevent any possible corruption prior to powering down. It's right there in the Webgui as well. I've have had zero issues across 3 rigs now since October. YMMV I suppose 
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January 19, 2014, 10:21:05 PM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had I think people are better off staying away from the full rigs. They're just too unstable and demand a lot of unnecessary attention. Go for a half rig... or two. And as long as you shutdown (sudo shutdown now -h) or reboot (sudo shutdown now -r) properly, you aren't likely to have SD card issues. Also, the new rigs have the updated GUI that has a shutdown button that does the same thing as the Linux shutdown code. Edit Oops, took too long to reply. I see others have given the same advice.  Just bought another Antminer @ 1.9BTC. Nice price. Lol, I swore that I'd let my BTC wallet build up some more funds. Oh well, might as well add a few more Bitfury boards too. I have a couple of PSUs that have some wattage to spare. Then I'll stop ( for now). I promise! 
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January 19, 2014, 10:21:54 PM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had Have you tried an UHS-1 card? I've had great luck with toshiba 16gb UHS1 card. I no longer shutdown -h now with those cards.
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January 19, 2014, 11:48:57 PM |
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Sorry in advance if this is a dumb question, but would these heatsinks fit on v2.2 h-cards? I don't know the differences between the versions myself.
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January 20, 2014, 12:36:31 AM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Honestly the only reason I gave them recent business is to top off my rigs. After that no more purchases as a) they are overpriced b) not as robust as some of the competition (my opinion, yours may vary) c) there is a difficulty storm coming and I want to weather it out before dumping any more money into hardware As for bitfury adding to their private farm don't you think all the bitcoin ASIC companies are doing that? Why would they not? They all should have their NRE costs paid off and from here on they can get chips at cost. The only reason they are selling hardware to you and me is because they know that YOU and ME will pay for their hardware this way so they don't have to spend one dollar out of their own pockets.
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January 20, 2014, 12:41:24 AM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had The sd-corruption issue is likely cause you are not properly shutting the rigs down, not the fault of bitfury and team. Log into the miner issue a "shutdown -h now" command. Wait for all the activity on the Pi to stop - you will notice that just ONE red light is on steady. NOW it is safe to power off the miner. Another tip is do NOT remove any fans off the miner BEFORE shutting down the miner. Believe it or not the cards still get full power even when the Pi is not sending them any work. Bitfury rigs are built as simple as possible. Having said that I haven't had one sd card get corrupted since I bought my kits, and it's not like the kits came with ultra high quality sd cards either.
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January 20, 2014, 12:43:33 AM |
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alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation I don't understand this  Doing a " sudo shutdown -h now" should prevent any possible corruption prior to powering down. It's right there in the Webgui as well. I've have had zero issues across 3 rigs now since October. YMMV I suppose  Indeed that's the way to do it, but don't forget to WAIT until the system has gone through the shutdown procedure. Don't just issue shutdown -h now and then immediately pull the plug. You have to wait until there is no activity on the PI's indicator/status lights. The one far from the left should be solid red (indicated powered on) and that's it - no other lights should be flashing.
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January 20, 2014, 12:47:20 AM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had I think people are better off staying away from the full rigs. They're just too unstable and demand a lot of unnecessary attention. Go for a half rig... or two. And as long as you shutdown (sudo shutdown now -h) or reboot (sudo shutdown now -r) properly, you aren't likely to have SD card issues. Also, the new rigs have the updated GUI that has a shutdown button that does the same thing as the Linux shutdown code. Edit Oops, took too long to reply. I see others have given the same advice.  Just bought another Antminer @ 1.9BTC. Nice price. Lol, I swore that I'd let my BTC wallet build up some more funds. Oh well, might as well add a few more Bitfury boards too. I have a couple of PSUs that have some wattage to spare. Then I'll stop ( for now). I promise!  Indeed 1.90 is a good price, although it may take 2 to 3 months to pay off. I got me one too just a few minutes ago as I have a spare 550 watt power supply that just begs to be used. As for full rigs being unstable you are 100% right. I intend to trim mine down to 12 h-card rigs. Even this may be unstable but probably not as unstable as 16 h-cards. I wish they built them a bit better as having to m-board space like this is just plain stupid! As for stopping the hardware purchase cycle, I dunno man, I think this is like an addiction or something. Mining hardware is like cocaine for some lol.
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January 20, 2014, 12:48:55 AM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had Have you tried an UHS-1 card? I've had great luck with toshiba 16gb UHS1 card. I no longer shutdown -h now with those cards. That is no long term fix. Why would you not properly shut down? Think about what not shutting down properly does to a regular hard drive. There is nearly constant writes happening to the sd card. Not properly shutting down is asking for trouble, which will come eventually even with overpriced fancy pants class 10 sd cards.
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January 20, 2014, 12:52:56 AM |
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I think the corruption issue is twofold. I have issued the shutdown -h command but that does little to nothing for keeping a healthy OS on the card for the next boot up. Tons of I/O errors and usually a kick out to kds.
The second issue that I think aids the first is poor media/writing devices. I have noticed that the imageUSB software never finishes the image verify task without erroring out even with using multiple readers.
I will have to test again when I get different SD cards. So far have used the Kingston it came with and some PNY I bought as backup. Neither last for more than 2 shutdowns.
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January 20, 2014, 01:08:30 AM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had Have you tried an UHS-1 card? I've had great luck with toshiba 16gb UHS1 card. I no longer shutdown -h now with those cards. That is no long term fix. Why would you not properly shut down? Think about what not shutting down properly does to a regular hard drive. There is nearly constant writes happening to the sd card. Not properly shutting down is asking for trouble, which will come eventually even with overpriced fancy pants class 10 sd cards. a) I solder my own H-cards (4 chips at a time) and it's a PITA to `shutdown -h' now to test a new h-card after soldering 4 more chips b) I live in a brownout prone area. c) UHS-1 cards have a far higher write speed, and unless there's a lot of pending writes when the power went out, the fs is automatically fixed by fsck on the next reboot. With higher write speeds, the chances that the card gets caught with a pending write gets lowered, and my hunch is that it becomes negligibly low with UHS-1 cards. In my experience a really slow class-4 card craps out in 3 - 4 minutes (since the /run/shm/.stat.log is updated a lot at the beginning), no matter how careful I am with doing a clean shutdown. It's got something to do with the nature of ext-3 fs. d) I agree it's not a good fix, but its one that's been working fine for me since last 2 months or so. take it for what it is or leave it.
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January 20, 2014, 02:47:37 AM |
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Any price drops on the 400+ GH/s models or introduction of higher GH/s setups (basically an addon master card/board)?
I see they are selling them quite good and overpriced of course. When people are buying them is there any reason prices to be dropped? The answer is...... I still don't understand why people are paying for overpriced miners to fund bitfury's private farm (currently at 200TH). Remember people: for every miner sold, bitfury adds a couple more to his farm so think twice before ordering. Stupid stupid people. Because it's an ASIC miner that ships today. And do you honestly think that Bitfury doesn't currently have enough funds to support it's own private farm without the few pennies that we add to their coffers? Lol. Who's stupid now? Everything has a reason dude... Just think about it I hope you're not responding to me. I just received a 1/2 rig, 1/4 rig and 3 V1 H boards last week. I happen to think Bitfury and BitMain gear are very reasonably priced at the moment. An even lower price would be better but I'm not waiting around for that to happen. I think those who are always complaining about over-priced gear will never be happy enough to make a purchase. That's why the ASIC vendors just ignore their pleas. Why try to satisfy a potential customer who will never actually buy your product, right? +1. when the price drop happened, it was enough for me to justify a small purchase. however, they need to come down another 20% before I go out and buy full rigs. alternatively, they fix the rPi SD-corrupting issues and ill buy  its a massive pissoff that i am scared to reboot the unit or otherwise touch it at all when in operation, even if i think a few more GH/s could be had Have you tried a new RPi klondike? I am using the same SD card from months ago without a hitch. I have 3 Other RPis that run Cgminer that have been running since the release of the RPi. I dont think its something wrong with the Image that's causing it.
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January 20, 2014, 03:29:12 AM |
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I think people are better off staying away from the full rigs. They're just too unstable and demand a lot of unnecessary attention. Go for a half rig... or two. And as long as you shutdown (sudo shutdown now -h) or reboot (sudo shutdown now -r) properly, you aren't likely to have SD card issues. Also, the new rigs have the updated GUI that has a shutdown button that does the same thing as the Linux shutdown code. Edit Oops, took too long to reply. I see others have given the same advice.  Just bought another Antminer @ 1.9BTC. Nice price. Lol, I swore that I'd let my BTC wallet build up some more funds. Oh well, might as well add a few more Bitfury boards too. I have a couple of PSUs that have some wattage to spare. Then I'll stop ( for now). I promise!  Indeed 1.90 is a good price, although it may take 2 to 3 months to pay off. I got me one too just a few minutes ago as I have a spare 550 watt power supply that just begs to be used. As for full rigs being unstable you are 100% right. I intend to trim mine down to 12 h-card rigs. Even this may be unstable but probably not as unstable as 16 h-cards. I wish they built them a bit better as having to m-board space like this is just plain stupid! As for stopping the hardware purchase cycle, I dunno man, I think this is like an addiction or something. Mining hardware is like cocaine for some lol. Cocaine? More like heroin, lol! I just bought 5 more V.1 H boards from BFSB (they're a bit cheaper at the moment with the Euro exchange rate) and 5 more V.2 H boards from MBP. Ok, I swear that's absolutely that last bit of hashing power for at least another month. Maybe my Monarchs will be delivered by then. Nah, probably not, but a man can dream.
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January 20, 2014, 08:36:58 AM |
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Question to MBP about volume discount for H-card
a) Are there any upcoming discount for V1 H-cards? The price at the EU store is E 250 (~$338) without any discounts.
b) Will you re-instate volume discounts for H-cards?
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January 20, 2014, 06:57:41 PM |
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Anyone know where I can get a new one of these PCI-e to Screw Terminal adapters? Or where I can get the lugs that attach and are crimpted to the wires so I can make it myself? 
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January 20, 2014, 07:11:00 PM |
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Anyone know where I can get a new one of these PCI-e to Screw Terminal adapters? Or where I can get the lugs that attach and are crimpted to the wires so I can make it myself?
Additionally, is it kosher to have both PCIe connectors hooked up, in addition to these two screw terminals, if we want to ensure our rigs are getting all the juice they require ? Read: Is having 4 power sources going to the M-Board going to cause it to melt ? Would be interested in picking up a few of these cables as well.
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