[ANN][ICO] savedroid - BITCOIN SAVING MADE EASY!

[incetivepro]

Final exact date for exchange? Do not say few weeks.

[XCNP]

This AMA sessions will clear many things as people are going to ask hard questions. It is going to be very interesting because exchanges, distribution to remaining investors and bounty participants will be asked and answered. This will be mainly focused by large number of participants. I would hope to see recorded version tomorrow sometimes if it will be released.

[addicto]

I also like the spirit of the dev this kind of AMA session will bring the trust of the community back on this project. That PR stunt really hurt so much and break the momentum but I hope we will get succeed to push this back on the track and everything will be fine after few more days.

[tempus]

Regarding Exchanges, how I understood it:

It will not be possible to list the token on the top5-exchange soon. The given reason for that: Exchange-policies would be under review of the exchange. I didn't really understand that part tbh. He also said that prices to get a bigger listing went up recently but don't know if that was in regards to that specific exchange or not. He can't give the name of the top5-exchange because it's part of the agreement (or negotiation) that the exchange has the first right to make an announcement once they list a token.

He seemed confident to get a listing on that exchange within a "few weeks".

Regarding the other exchanges he said it would be possible to list the token within days. They want to make a voting, if I understood it right it will be this way:

Investors can vote on:

Option 1: To list the Token as soon as possible (within days) on the smaller exchanges that are listed on the webpage and the bigger listing would follow once ready.

Option 2: To wait for the Top5-exchange to get the token listed on all exchanges at the same day.


The voting will last for 3 days and the voting-power will depend on the number of SVD an Investor bought (larger holders would have more votings, smaller less).



Regarding token distribution and those who got double-SVD-transactions:

He said that some community-members signaled willingness to give those "double-transacted-SVD" back to Savedroid and that they will appeal on others to do that as well (mail them etc.).

Reason why that happened: A script they've used for those transaction involved errors.

[Jay2408]

This AMA sessions will clear many things as people are going to ask hard questions. It is going to be very interesting because exchanges, distribution to remaining investors and bounty participants will be asked and answered. This will be mainly focused by large number of participants. I would hope to see recorded version tomorrow sometimes if it will be released.

You can already see the AMA session over this link: https://www.facebook.com/savedroid/posts/654786808195170, check it out.

[tempus]

I have thought a bit about this mysterious top 5 exchange. I can't know it but something doesn't add up. To make it as short as possible:

Given reason why it needs more time to get SVD listed on that exchange is, quoting tobson2 - telegram:

"(...) the exchange decided to update it's listing policy in the next weeks, so it might take more time than expected to get started"

Yassir also said that during the AMA and even explicitly added that this exchange wants to raise their listing standards to assure a higher quality.  

Some things to consider:

1) The top 5 exchange was initially announced on March 5 and communicated as "secured":
“Securing a second well-known exchange shows that SVD is an attractive token for the large crypto exchanges. This allows us to create trading opportunities for token buyers on the best exchanges, which is good for liquidity. “ says Dr. Yassin Hankir, founder and CEO of savedroid.

2) The last AMA was 14 days ago but this explanation is new, what means, if the given explanation is true: This certain exchange made the decision to change their policy and to raise their standards and to delay the listing of SVD during the last two weeks, or Yassir didn't communicate that while it already was known (unlikely).

3) If that exchange was already secured in early March, why would a change of policy should have any effect on Savedroid now? Why is it necessary that Savedroid has to meet the new requirements?  

4) Most important and the key question: If this certain exchange has to delay the listing of SVD because they change their listing-policies to raise their own standards, how can the Savedroid-Team still be totally sure that it will just be a delay but not a rejection? How can they know that they'll meet these new requirements?

5) On Twitter it's visible that not one of the top5-exchanges shows an interruption when it's about listings.


With other words: This scenario can only be the whole truth if the announcement in March wasn't as safe as it was communicated since Savedroid will have to meet the new requirements/higher listing standards now. And a delay only makes sense if it's not safe that Savedroid will meet those new requirements. But if it's not safe it's not honest to communicate it as "just a delay".


I can't know it but this whole explanation doesn't make that much sense in my opinion and I wouldn't be surprised if it's just about buying time and if there would be an explanation in a few weeks, like "damn, they've raised the quality standards too high and now they want to have so much money, we will need more time". By the way: Tobson2 confirmed on a question that they didn't have to pay at all to get that listing and also that the exchange didn't back off because of their PR-Stunt - but now they have to meet new requirements. I really don't get the logic here...

[uefabiggolas]

Just a full of shit savedroid, they will manipulate the vote to make option 2 win and buy some time to listing the token

What a shit fucking scam project

[incetivepro]

Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

[tobson2]

I can't know it but this whole explanation doesn't make that much sense in my opinion and I wouldn't be surprised if it's just about buying time and if there would be an explanation in a few weeks, like "damn, they've raised the quality standards too high and now they want to have so much money, we will need more time". By the way: Tobson2 confirmed on a question that they didn't have to pay at all to get that listing and also that the exchange didn't back off because of their PR-Stunt - but now they have to meet new requirements. I really don't get the logic here...

What they told us is that these requirements will be for all tokens were trading has not yet started, so not only SVD. So it neither has something to do with a payment, nor the PR stunt. And I even understand that they higher the barriers as there are really too much shitcoins out there (shit in the sense of the product, not the current tokenprice, which are too often two total different topics).

[tobson2]

Fot the delta in minted SVD which was raised previously, besides creditcard there's another even more important factor for that: We have a minting mode and people can decide to not mint there tokens right now and have them directly in our app. Actually a lot of people used this option, so these tokens aren't minted yet and will be minted in the last moment to a programmatic wallet-system of ours, which can be used in the app from summer this year.

[hush]

Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

Keep your advice for yourself because nobody ask for your precious knowledge it seems you are not an investor. Just trolling to make panic weak hands to get fill your order.

[uefabiggolas]

I can't know it but this whole explanation doesn't make that much sense in my opinion and I wouldn't be surprised if it's just about buying time and if there would be an explanation in a few weeks, like "damn, they've raised the quality standards too high and now they want to have so much money, we will need more time". By the way: Tobson2 confirmed on a question that they didn't have to pay at all to get that listing and also that the exchange didn't back off because of their PR-Stunt - but now they have to meet new requirements. I really don't get the logic here...

What they told us is that these requirements will be for all tokens were trading has not yet started, so not only SVD. So it neither has something to do with a payment, nor the PR stunt. And I even understand that they higher the barriers as there are really too much shitcoins out there (shit in the sense of the product, not the current tokenprice, which are too often two total different topics).

Your Savedroid is #1 shit coin in the world, thats why their reject your token

Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

Agreed no need to wait big exchange and also no need the exchange , just unlock the token so i can dump this shit token at ED or FD

[tobson2]

Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

Keep your advice for yourself because nobody ask for your precious knowledge it seems you are not an investor. Just trolling to make panic weak hands to get fill your order.

Unfortunately, not only in this channel

[incetivepro]

Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

Keep your advice for yourself because nobody ask for your precious knowledge it seems you are not an investor. Just trolling to make panic weak hands to get fill your order.

Unfortunately, not only in this channel

Because everywhere you will ban people (telegram, reddit ,....)
Simple questions will be deleted too. Still you can not count total supply, token must be burn, etc.  How and why? 

Here is my post and your post where deleted
Final number of sold tokens: 4,198,547,126 SVD
http://oi68.tinypic.com/5bpk5f.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/5bpk5f.jpg


Tokens to be burned: 2,791,414,560 SVD
http://i65.tinypic.com/15eaarq.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/15eaarq.jpg


And now we have new topic  "Tokens to be burned: 3,002,421,457 SVD":
https://www.reddit.com/r/savedroid_ico/comments/8i52m0/tokens_to_be_burned_3002421457_svd/

[tempus]

I can't know it but this whole explanation doesn't make that much sense in my opinion and I wouldn't be surprised if it's just about buying time and if there would be an explanation in a few weeks, like "damn, they've raised the quality standards too high and now they want to have so much money, we will need more time". By the way: Tobson2 confirmed on a question that they didn't have to pay at all to get that listing and also that the exchange didn't back off because of their PR-Stunt - but now they have to meet new requirements. I really don't get the logic here...

What they told us is that these requirements will be for all tokens were trading has not yet started, so not only SVD. So it neither has something to do with a payment, nor the PR stunt. And I even understand that they higher the barriers as there are really too much shitcoins out there (shit in the sense of the product, not the current tokenprice, which are too often two total different topics).

Okay. See, I really don't want to assume that you guys are dishonest but I've learned in Crypto to consider "everything". That's not even meant personally and also not in regards only to this project, but maybe a sign for the principle that spreading doubts (PR-Stunt) can be like a virus while restoring trust is not that easy. If my considerations should turn out as false and you guys as honest regarding the exchange-subject the chance is good that it will be possible.

By the way: I'm not invested but 1) If I was and 2) in case the given info about the top5-exchange is true and there will be no further delay, I would vote for waiting for the top5-exchange. The reason is this: In case SVD starts trading as soon as possible on low-liquidity/volume-exchanges the probability of a dropping price is likely to increase. Those who may have lost trust would be likely to sell and others might panic because of that. I believe the price will probably reflect uncertainty in general and the community shows a lot of signs of impatience. Usually that is a sign of a lack of experience what may lead into an even more sensitive situation on the market. On the other hand: If listed on all exchanges, including a bigger one, at the same day: That would restore trust and decrease uncertainty and the time from now until then could be used to restore trust as well - if done right. But the opposite is also true.

It's an interesting situation because it's a totally psychological one. But... in case your impression might be that I wish this project any harm, that's not the case. I just still believe it would have been right to give choice regarding refunds.

[tobson2]

Just buying time....  list SVD on the smallest exchange and we will sell our tokens asap. No need to big exchange.

Keep your advice for yourself because nobody ask for your precious knowledge it seems you are not an investor. Just trolling to make panic weak hands to get fill your order.

Unfortunately, not only in this channel

Because everywhere you will ban people (telegram, reddit ,....)
Simple questions will be deleted too. Still you can not count total supply, token must be burn, etc.  How and why? 

You're right and the wrong number was instantly deleted, because of this. Thanks for pointing this out!

[magisterr]

Huobi, Okex want 500k usd in tokens for listing. Binance - 1 mln usd. (this is what I heard). They raised 50 mln euro and cant pay this money for listing?  As I remember, they promiced top-5 exchange before ICO.

[incetivepro]

Huobi, Okex want 500k usd in tokens for listing. Binance - 1 mln usd. (this is what I heard). They raised 50 mln euro and cant pay this money for listing?  As I remember, they promiced top-5 exchange before ICO.

Binance and Bittrex.  I hope SVD team pay them for listing

[magisterr]

Huobi, Okex want 500k usd in tokens for listing. Binance - 1 mln usd. (this is what I heard). They raised 50 mln euro and cant pay this money for listing?  As I remember, they promiced top-5 exchange before ICO.

Binance and Bittrex.  I hope SVD team pay them for listing

Bittrex not such good now as early. Binance, Okex and Huobi - most better exchanges nowdays. Binance pumping every coin and tokens now.

[Maslate]

Huobi, Okex want 500k usd in tokens for listing. Binance - 1 mln usd. (this is what I heard). They raised 50 mln euro and cant pay this money for listing?  As I remember, they promiced top-5 exchange before ICO.

Binance and Bittrex.  I hope SVD team pay them for listing

Bittrex not such good now as early. Binance, Okex and Huobi - most better exchanges nowdays. Binance pumping every coin and tokens now.

Instead of paying on small exchanges, why not go big.
Binance is the answer, we can easily see the value grow once we are in Binance, it's a pump site and if SVD continues to do better, we might increase more.