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January 07, 2014, 03:24:01 AM
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just me who think quark need to be marketing better?

 New people need to come to quark. I think that all the false accusation about it being a scam or premined coin has intimidate new people. Its heading in the right direction but need more good publicity to stand out from all other alts

No, I too think that way.

If you listen to idiots, you'll loose the opportunity. Everyone realizes that.

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January 07, 2014, 03:25:45 AM
 #4322

why is quark more viable than any other alt-coin? I don't see any of these coins having a long enough shelf life to even compete with bitcoin. Businesses accepting 100s of alt coins? I can't picture it.

See the quark review in my sig.

Quark secures 40 points, Bitcoin secures 4.

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January 07, 2014, 05:27:09 AM
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a lot of people here sure seem to have a lot of hate forquark, I dont get that really, I am not a big fan of Quark, because of the instamining thing, but heey, why hate ?

Notice they generally have low activity levels and other alt coins in their sigs. Quite simply there is money to be made from doing what they are doing, no matter how ingenuous they may be.

For example, look at what adolf said regarding the early mine. That is/was a concern to me but I think it is a viable alternative, an experiment and we should look further at it, discuss it, don't just knock it.
Make the talk a conversation, 2 ways, not just bashing. Using an early mine has some potential advantages (and note, even with BTC there are very few holders having VERY large amounts). I wish I could have
gotten into quark sooner, but anyway I see how the distribution model in an early mine coin (that is ASIC resistance for a bit longer than most coins due to the multiple algorithms it uses) has certain benefits.
For example, the arms race to mine is now not quite as much on the forefront. Perhaps this can be both a good and a bad thing, but look at it, investigate it. Enjoy another experiment here. Also, the low price
as many coins were already mined are going to be VERY attractive for people wanting to get into something "cheaper" and "early", etc. People with many coins will sell some for sure and distribution will take place.
We'll see how that goes.

Somewhat related, the high reliance on the SHA256 hardware coupled with new hardware making the old hardware mostly obsolete means newer SHA256 coins are gonna get attention, clearly. (Kolin mentioned this.)
So, we are probably going to see a trickle from these SHA256 coins (and soon to be ASIC LTC's and other SCRYPT coins) into Quark imo. Due to most of it's mining already having been done (relatively speaking), I think it might be seen eventually as a store of value as it relates to the centralization of the ASIC miners. This in an unknown though, and it is all unfolding just beyond our view currently.

Some concerns - for sure - how will the network be secured relative to the lower (?) demand with mining? We will see. As Cryptos become more popular and more money flows in, you will see networks attacked, 51% attacks, DDOS, etc. happen and that will be needed and weed out the weak ones. How strong is our network? Bots a problem?

So, instead of bashing, I'll take some of my chances here and try to look deeper into something it sounds like, quite a few people don't understand, but seem hell bent on bashing. That pulls me closer...

And I get the feeling 2014 is really going to be an interesting year with the Cryptos.

Its about sharing



Well thought out ideas, I generally agree here .
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January 07, 2014, 05:34:55 AM
 #4324

why is quark more viable than any other alt-coin? I don't see any of these coins having a long enough shelf life to even compete with bitcoin. Businesses accepting 100s of alt coins? I can't picture it.

See the quark review in my sig.

Quark secures 40 points, Bitcoin secures 4.

dE_logics id love to see this framed into a basic article , clearly laying out the score and why you score each as such .

The easier to read the better, I love these sort of opinions .

If you ever do this link me via PM either on here or on the other forum.

Regards .

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January 07, 2014, 03:28:17 PM
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Its was so obvious!!! When I read that somebody wanted to make products only for Google Androids and not for Apple IOS, it was the last sign of wrong politics of investing and total madness of the markets. Now I have quarks and much time.

Let's discuss, who is better Android or IOS?
Which owners are smarter, Androids or IOSs?
Who will survive, Android or IOS?
What to buy, Android or IOS phone or tablet?
Does quark work better on Android or IOS?
...
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How I was stupid.  Grin
It makes me feel better I have not involved by Doge or Cats. Meow! lol


I forgot. Don't buy at the tops or at least be careful and don't sell at the bottoms. And wait for your target. I have time to wait my for target now.


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January 07, 2014, 03:50:37 PM
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How many connections should I see if my port is forwarded correctly? Even with my port forwarded BTC QT wallet, I only sometimes see 9 connections. (Usually 8 and that is bad)

My Quarkcoin wallet is showing 15 active connections. I have no problem receiving payments, but I ordered one transfer 20 hours ago and I am still waiting (0 of 6 confirmations).

Do I have to open / redirect any port in particular in my NAT / router?

 José Antonio

The confirmation failed, there was an orphan and your transaction will not included in the newer blocks. There was no withdrawal on the other end too. So ask them to reconsider.

Ask who?

This is a transfer from my personal wallet on my PC to my QRK account on coins-e

The amount is not in my personal wallet anymore and I did not receive the QRK on coins-e, neither. What can I do? Did I lost my mined quarks?

Reindex, you should get your quarks back.
not reindex, -rescan

1.- Opened port in router and NAT to the computer holding the wallet: From 15 active connections to 124 active connections
2.- $ quarkcoin-qt -reindex ... nothing
3.- $ quarkcoin-qt -rescan ... nothing
4.- Disabled firewall on computer holding wallet (apparmor / ubuntu): Everything is OK!!!

So, finally that turned to be a problem due to firewall blocking something related to the wallet.


Thanks for your help,

 José Antonio

In firewall try to open port from your quarkcoin.conf file only. Don't disable firewall on computer.



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January 07, 2014, 04:16:52 PM
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So , right now , with a blocked reward of 8 coins we have 46080 quakrs mined /day , right?
At a price of 0.087$ this makes the reward 4000$ /day.

Now , if the block reward drops to 1 , miners will only get 500$/day.  And 15 000$/month.
Compared to electricity costs this makes the network look very insecure for the moment.

Who pays for electricity? Certainly not the botnets and hasher farms!

Well , having your network "secured" by a botnet , isn't the usual approach in cryptos , isn't it?

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Time to shake up the weak hands.
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Time to shake up the weak hands.

yeah what you all think how low we can go ?
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January 07, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
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Time to shake up the weak hands.

yeah what you all think how low we can go ?


In theory ? 0.
In practice? Nobody knows. My bet is on .050

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January 07, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
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Time to shake up the weak hands.

yeah what you all think how low we can go ?


In theory ? 0.
In practice? Nobody knows. My bet is on .050

0.00007199 -> dont think 7 is the lowest we will see today...

meanings ?
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People are concerned. Since mining is dieing, they think the Quark network will be susceptible.

@digitalindustry

The blog should broadcast nothing such will happen. Emphasize on 0.5% inflation.

I'll write an article about how quarks are better than Bitcoins, and as of the current time better than any other alt.

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January 07, 2014, 05:06:27 PM
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So , right now , with a blocked reward of 8 coins we have 46080 quakrs mined /day , right?
At a price of 0.087$ this makes the reward 4000$ /day.

Now , if the block reward drops to 1 , miners will only get 500$/day.  And 15 000$/month.
Compared to electricity costs this makes the network look very insecure for the moment.

Who pays for electricity? Certainly not the botnets and hasher farms!

Well , having your network "secured" by a botnet , isn't the usual approach in cryptos , isn't it?

Yeah. But they wont do a 51%, cause it's hard in the 1st place. Apart from hashing power, coordination is also required for it.

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CPU mining has 1 disadvantage however -- there's a lot of CPU power (not GPU power or control over special purpose hardware) in the hands of Botnets; under control of a cracker, he may have 51% hashing power for a small amount of time. However this requires great amount of coordination among the huge no. of botnets, this requires downloading the whole block chain which is hard for a block; then people are moving away from their virus-infested Microsoft Windows Desktop/Laptops to Android tablets and phones. So feasibility of such an attack is questionable.

Then Quark has quick block time. That makes it yet harder, cause the bots require some time to getwork and then send the work.

Currently, the bots do it in a pool. Which's actually not bad.

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January 07, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
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This decrease in price is nothing but market manipulation. Look at all the sell orders around 9000. Those showed up last night in order to push the price down so somebody can buy cheap Quark. The scheme worked, price is down and people are selling it cheap. Sad.
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January 07, 2014, 05:07:35 PM
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People are concerned. Since mining is dieing, they think the Quark network will be susceptible.

@digitalindustry

The blog should broadcast nothing such will happen. Emphasize on 0.5% inflation.

I'll write an article about how quarks are better than Bitcoins, and as of the current time better than any other alt.

Quark current marketcap is 16,379,903 , a 0.5% inflation means  81899$/year.
Bitcoin transactions fees , 10-20k usd /day.

Be careful how you write your article so it doesn't come back like a boomerang.

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January 07, 2014, 05:08:59 PM
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So , right now , with a blocked reward of 8 coins we have 46080 quakrs mined /day , right?
At a price of 0.087$ this makes the reward 4000$ /day.

Now , if the block reward drops to 1 , miners will only get 500$/day.  And 15 000$/month.
Compared to electricity costs this makes the network look very insecure for the moment.

Who pays for electricity? Certainly not the botnets and hasher farms!

Well , having your network "secured" by a botnet , isn't the usual approach in cryptos , isn't it?

First, the network doesn't "secure" anything in crypto. The network makes transactions viable. Second many coins are mined by botnets, server farms, hasher farms, etc  take a look at litecoin. A network is a network no matter how it is assembled.
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January 07, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
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This decrease in price is nothing but market manipulation. Look at all the sell orders around 9000. Those showed up last night in order to push the price down so somebody can buy cheap Quark. The scheme worked, price is down and people are selling it cheap. Sad.

Probably some big fund pushing the price down to increase their stake.
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They are trying to push it down, look at the 150BTC buy order at 15
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January 07, 2014, 05:28:31 PM
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So , right now , with a blocked reward of 8 coins we have 46080 quakrs mined /day , right?
At a price of 0.087$ this makes the reward 4000$ /day.

Now , if the block reward drops to 1 , miners will only get 500$/day.  And 15 000$/month.
Compared to electricity costs this makes the network look very insecure for the moment.

Who pays for electricity? Certainly not the botnets and hasher farms!

Well , having your network "secured" by a botnet , isn't the usual approach in cryptos , isn't it?

First, the network doesn't "secure" anything in crypto. The network makes transactions viable. Second many coins are mined by botnets, server farms, hasher farms, etc  take a look at litecoin. A network is a network no matter how it is assembled.


A network in which a botnet or a farm or a person has more than 51% is an insecure network , for any pow coin.
And when normal miners  leave mining , and only botnets with their 0 cost are mining , they can play with that coin and it's blockchain like lego pieces.

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January 07, 2014, 05:32:54 PM
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They are trying to push it down, look at the 150BTC buy order at 15

shhhh noobs don't know about this, i want my cheap QRKS ....i sold too cheap before and want most of them back. 

Let the market forces do their thing. Just buy in chunks as it works down.

The dev really needs to consider adding some POS now for a lot of reasons. I want some interest on my QRK also...

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