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Author Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)  (Read 1042600 times)
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August 19, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
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While I'm here, I'd just like to give a shout-out to everyone from two weeks ago who felt they were left holding the bag when the price was nearing IPO-

Hope y'all held on - cheers, boys!




I've been thinking of all those people in such a rush last week to sell at 0.0015 or so.

Amazing what a few days of patience can do for you sometimes.

These prices wont stay up for long. It's just because there was news. In a couple weeks the price will be down again. It's not worth buying unless under 0.002.

Someone's looking for cheap shares  Wink
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August 19, 2013, 10:12:40 PM
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I think when the mining starts, dividends come, mass chip production starts, mass sell starts, mining power increases.. i see a next ASICMINER..
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August 19, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
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doesn't matter going by their numbers at 10% You'll make about $1/Share

Over what time frame? You wont make anywhere near 1 USD/share from a single dividend payout. You'll make that easily from selling IPO shares though. 1 USD is about 0.01 BTC and the share price will easily surpass that.

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August 19, 2013, 10:21:22 PM
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Since the discussion is already running hot I would like to point out that Labcoin is a ASIC development, production, sales and mining project. NOT a mining bond.

Trying to extrapolate a value based purely on hash-speed over time will likely not result in a correct valuation.

Cheers!
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August 19, 2013, 10:23:28 PM
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Now how much hashpower does 1 share equal? In the beginning and in their future goals?

There are 10,000,000 shares. When they bring 50TH online and spread 70% of mining income then its 50 * 0.7 = 35TH. 35 / 10,000,000 = 0.0000035TH per share or 3.5MH per share.
Vagely correct?

IDK so what is that 7TH per say 20,000 shares?

It cant possibly be 7TH since there are only 50TH in total and 10,000,000 shares. 20K shares would be around 70GH, thats 0.07TH. Of course, if they do it right and reinvest that should rise.

I wonder if they took everything into account. The big amount of power needed. Are the miners ready to create and so on.

So if it's 70GH how does anyone say this is cheap? for $4K you can get 200GH from KNC.

And those 200 GH/s will remain at 200 Gh/s. If you want an extra 200 Gh/s, you will have to pay an extra 4K USD. If you bought 100,000 Labcoin shares, you would always have 1% of Labcoin's hash rate. If Labcoin have 5 Th/s, you'd have 50 Gh/s. If Labcoin has 50 Th/s, you'd have 500 Gh/s. If Labcoin has 500 Th/s, you'd have 5 Th/s.
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August 19, 2013, 10:24:13 PM
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Since the discussion is already running hit I would like to point out that Labcoin is a ASIC development, production, sales and mining project. NOT a mining bond.

Trying to extrapolate a value based purely on hash-speed over time will likely not result in a correct valuation.

Cheers!

This is EXACTLY what I was about to try explaining to everyone but you beat me to it.  
A share price doesn't only reflect current profit. It reflects the entire arsenal.  
Some companies are valued greatly on future development alone.  

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August 19, 2013, 10:33:47 PM
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doesn't matter going by their numbers at 10% You'll make about $1/Share

Over what time frame? You wont make anywhere near 1 USD/share from a single dividend payout. You'll make that easily from selling IPO shares though. 1 USD is about 0.01 BTC and the share price will easily surpass that.



I was going by their numbers that they posted in the OP, I guess they are all bullshit lol
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August 19, 2013, 10:38:52 PM
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doesn't matter going by their numbers at 10% You'll make about $1/Share

Over what time frame? You wont make anywhere near 1 USD/share from a single dividend payout. You'll make that easily from selling IPO shares though. 1 USD is about 0.01 BTC and the share price will easily surpass that.



I was going by their numbers that they posted in the OP, I guess they are all bullshit lol

You'll have to quote them then as I see no such numbers in the original post.
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August 19, 2013, 10:44:32 PM
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doesn't matter going by their numbers at 10% You'll make about $1/Share

Over what time frame? You wont make anywhere near 1 USD/share from a single dividend payout. You'll make that easily from selling IPO shares though. 1 USD is about 0.01 BTC and the share price will easily surpass that.



I was going by their numbers that they posted in the OP, I guess they are all bullshit lol

You'll have to quote them then as I see no such numbers in the original post.

Either he's a grade A troll or he's just misinformed.
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August 19, 2013, 10:46:19 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg2814645#msg2814645
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August 19, 2013, 10:46:41 PM
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Since the discussion is already running hot I would like to point out that Labcoin is a ASIC development, production, sales and mining project. NOT a mining bond.

Trying to extrapolate a value based purely on hash-speed over time will likely not result in a correct valuation.

Cheers!

Absolutely! I hope people understand this.
You're better off comparing it to ASICMINER, which essentially has the same business model.
And looking at their share price and the resulting potential price for Labcoin.. let's just say there's still a lot of room.
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August 19, 2013, 10:46:46 PM
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doesn't matter going by their numbers at 10% You'll make about $1/Share

Over what time frame? You wont make anywhere near 1 USD/share from a single dividend payout. You'll make that easily from selling IPO shares though. 1 USD is about 0.01 BTC and the share price will easily surpass that.



I was going by their numbers that they posted in the OP, I guess they are all bullshit lol

You'll have to quote them then as I see no such numbers in the original post.

sorry not OP a few replies below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg2814645#msg2814645
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August 19, 2013, 10:49:04 PM
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Quoting. Do you know how it works?
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August 19, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
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Clicking, do you know how it works?
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August 19, 2013, 10:51:53 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241033.0

Dear Bitcoin Community,






Since clicking is so hard. Those numbers above at 10% equate to $1/share profit, without Sales!!!
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August 19, 2013, 10:54:21 PM
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I'm sorry current BTC price they equate to $1.20/share without hardware sales, with hardware sales I guess $2-3/share dividends which seems like utter bullshit.
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August 19, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
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Johny if you don't like the numbers than just move on to KNC or something. No one is forcing you to spend $4k on it and I don't think anyone wants to convince you to either. Its your money, do whatever you want it.

If you want my opinion, I think its better to compare Labcoin to Asicminer. They will pay dividends from both mining and hardware sales. I still think labcoin is a good buy but no one knows for sure. There is always uncertainty. If you want something that is a sure thing buy asicminer. They pay dividends every Wednesday.
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August 19, 2013, 11:00:38 PM
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Since clicking is so hard. Those numbers above at 10% equate to $1/share profit, without Sales!!!

I thought you were referring to something in the wall-of-text post you linked.

According to the sheet, at 10%, it would equate to ~0.01 BTC/share/year profit (not 1$ Roll Eyes ), and that is excluding miner sales (which are important).
That means that going by current labcoin share price of 0.0025 BTC, it would see 400% APR on mining alone, which is fucking huge.

Anyway, I personally don't believe Labcoin will be able to hold and sustain 10% of the market, that is wishful thinking.
But it really doesn't need to do that to be a great company and a fantastic investment.
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August 19, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
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Johny if you don't like the numbers than just move on to KNC or something. No one is forcing you to spend $4k on it and I don't think anyone wants to convince you to either. Its your money, do whatever you want it.

If you want my opinion, I think its better to compare Labcoin to Asicminer. They will pay dividends from both mining and hardware sales. I still think labcoin is a good buy but no one knows for sure. There is always uncertainty. If you want something that is a sure thing buy asicminer. They pay dividends every Wednesday.

Don't care about dividends care about the best value for my money. For $4k I can get KncMiner 200GH here for the same price you get about 70GH. Yet people come and spew bullshit out of their mouths, pretending like LabCoin is so much cheaper. Knc is $20/gh while LabCoin is $2/GH. Scroll up a few more posts where you'll see a person tell me I can get 2TH for $4,000.

People don't even know what the fuck they are buying and TheSwede won't clarify anything to his potential and current investors, they want people to be confused, so when they don't ROI in over 10 years, it will be too late.
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August 19, 2013, 11:02:50 PM
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Since clicking is so hard. Those numbers above at 10% equate to $1/share profit, without Sales!!!

I thought you were referring to something in the wall-of-text post you linked.

According to the sheet, at 10%, it would equate to ~0.01 BTC/share/year profit (not 1$ Roll Eyes ), and that is excluding miner sales (which are important).
That means that going by current labcoin share price of 0.0025 BTC, it would see 400% APR on mining alone, which is fucking huge.

Anyway, I personally don't believe Labcoin will be able to hold and sustain 10% of the market, that is wishful thinking.
But it really doesn't need to do that to be a great company and a fantastic investment.

That is $1

.01BTC X $100 = $1/share or todays prices
.01BTC X $120 = $1.20/share profit
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