Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!

[rs1x]

Hey guys ... I'm mining some XVG on ZPOOL.  I am mining directy to BINANCE.

when i look at ZPOOL  at my last 50 earnings I'm being rewarded XVG (x17) and also Shield (x17).

It doesn't look like these Shield coins, show up in my payout though. 

Can anyone help explain what these Shield coins are, and if they are coins I am acquiring?

Zpool let's you mine a single algo, and let's you specify any coin for payout that they mine, but they don't let you actually mine that coin directly.

BTW - I've had good results on Zpool mining X17 and converting to XVG with payout directly to Bittrex.

Yeah - I'm being paid out on XVG, which is what I'm requesting to be paid out in.  I just am confused why it looks like I am also earning SHIELD coins. 

Everything on the XVG front is great.  Shield, is confusing.

[QuintLeo]

Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.

R9 290 is a ton better at ETH than ZEC - bios mod them with one of TheStilt undervolt bios helps a ton on dropping temps, stability, and lowering power usage.

1100 core is WAY overkill for ETH mining on them - 900-950 seems to be about the most you need for max hashrate AND drops power consumption quite a bit.


Might vary a bit if you have aftermarket cards - mine are Sapphire reference models, and seem to be optimal on ETH mining at 1250 memory clock (1300 LOWERS hashrate and much higher gets unstable).

[MagicSmoker]

Zpool let's you mine a single algo, and let's you specify any coin for payout that they mine, but they don't let you actually mine that coin directly.

BTW - I've had good results on Zpool mining X17 and converting to XVG with payout directly to Bittrex.

Yeah - I'm being paid out on XVG, which is what I'm requesting to be paid out in.  I just am confused why it looks like I am also earning SHIELD coins. 

Everything on the XVG front is great.  Shield, is confusing.

It's because on Zpool if you choose to mine, say, the X17 algo, then you could be mining any one of the coins that use the X17 algo at any given time; all of those coins then go to the exchange to get converted into the coin you chose for payout, which doesn't even need to use the same algo.

As @dragonmike has warned elsewhere, though, you are mining whatever coin is most profitable /right now/ but that coin may not be nearly as profitable when it finally matures and is sent to be exchanged... If you want to mine a single coin the best option by far is to just mine that coin; if you don't have any good ideas for what to mine and hate to see rigs sitting idle then use multi-algo, auto-convert pools like Zpool, Hash Refinery, etc.

[Elder III]

Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.

R9 290 is a ton better at ETH than ZEC - bios mod them with one of TheStilt undervolt bios helps a ton on dropping temps, stability, and lowering power usage.

1100 core is WAY overkill for ETH mining on them - 900-950 seems to be about the most you need for max hashrate AND drops power consumption quite a bit.


Might vary a bit if you have aftermarket cards - mine are Sapphire reference models, and seem to be optimal on ETH mining at 1250 memory clock (1300 LOWERS hashrate and much higher gets unstable).

What kind of power consumption would you have at those clocks, both with and without the bios mod?  I'm running some calculations based on the current power supplies etc that we have on hand.

[GabryRox]

wow, it's been a crazy week, even for the crazy crypto world lol!  been super busy at work so missed a lot of stuff on this thread and in crypto world in general unfortunately.

- Stupid gaff by me... probably worst sine i started mining 18 months ago - I had both 1070ti/1080 rigs mining away at ZCL for several weeks.  I never read about that hard fork that happened last week, so was shocked when ZCL crashed from $150 to $10 in 2-3 days. Needless to say, I stopped mining it at that point and now everything pointed to ETH and getting about 900Mhz on that.  BUT... i did lose about $800 as i had mined about 5-6 ZCL coins, which are now effectively worthless.  In the big scheme of things, not a huge deal, but one that could have been avoided if I had been paying attention.

- Still having that "GPU0 hangs in open CL - miner restart" issue on my 4 AMD rigs.  it got so bad on 1 I had to just disable it within Claymore and now it runs fine. but still have the issue on at least 2 of the other 3 rigs and 1 is getting worse. This has to be a software/settings issue since it's statistically highly improbable that all errors are with GPU0s on 4 diff rigs and never a diff device #.  But have yet to figure out which setting needs to be tweaked so any advice would be appreciated. I know moving to SMOS would probably fix it but i simply don't have the time to do that at this point.

- Agree with the comments on GPU pricing... it's still insane and honestly, anyone paying these prices that is brand new to the game with no equity built from selling old equipment may never ROI their investment... unless we see another huge bull market and get over $1 trillion market cap in the next few months.  I was very lucky to get most of my 1070ti/80's from my employer's store at regular retail, but now even they are price gouging by charging $800 for a 1080 (NOT TI version lol).  Been watching AMD cards as well as I need 3 more 570's (preferably 8GB) to complete rig #7, but no way I am paying over $400 for those lol!  Got the 4 i have for about $300 before all this nonsense started so that may be where i stay for a while.  All retailers seem to be gouging even more now. I've seen the ASUS 1070ti's i have listed at close to $700 lol.

- Finally, I just read about the upcoming Monero fork (MoneroV). Was wondering what thoughts people had about this.  XMR has been one of the big 3 I plan on holding relatively long term but a bit worried what's gonna happen after this fork.  Clearly the XMR price run up recently has been at least partially as a result of the pending airdrop of MoneroV, which I beleive is at a 1:10 rate, but a bit worried given what happened with ZCL, but i do have much more faith in XMR than that.
   Also, does anyone know if MoneroV is going to be mineable? I hope so cuz that Algo could really use a new kid on the block. XMR has been worthless to mine over past few months, and with prices of other CN coins struggling, i new profit maximizer on that algo could help things a lot for mining overall

[crazydane]

Grabbed a few L3's

With the 200 dollar coupon  1296 price is pretty good.

I got 4 $100 coupons.  It seems that I'm only able to apply 1 per L3.  Is that right?  Still, $1,296 isn't bad per L3!

[Elder III]

- Agree with the comments on GPU pricing... it's still insane and honestly, anyone paying these prices that is brand new to the game with no equity built from selling old equipment may never ROI their investment... unless we see another huge bull market and get over $1 trillion market cap in the next few months.  I was very lucky to get most of my 1070ti/80's from my employer's store at regular retail, but now even they are price gouging by charging $800 for a 1080 (NOT TI version lol).  Been watching AMD cards as well as I need 3 more 570's (preferably 8GB) to complete rig #7, but no way I am paying over $400 for those lol!  Got the 4 i have for about $300 before all this nonsense started so that may be where i stay for a while.  All retailers seem to be gouging even more now. I've seen the ASUS 1070ti's i have listed at close to $700 lol.

If you're interested in some 580 4Gb GPUs instead of 570s we just listed a pair of new ones (along with some used R9 Fury X) in the for sale section. I don't want to clutter this thread so you can pm me if you're interested.

[adaseb]

Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.

I run 1100 core, 1300mem, -100mv in afterburner. Voltage after undervolt is about 1.07v. This gives 30.6mh/s, about 190w and is rock stable.
They can be pushed to 1200core at -20mv (1.15v) for 33mh/s but it's almost 250w.

What are your settings for 29mh/s?

We plan to keep cards below 200w, this way 7 of them can be run in an Onda 8 gpu case with 1600w psu. The rig cost is a significant portion of the entire system, makes sense to run 7 rather than just 6 at higher hash rates.

How did you measure your power output? In GPUz or from the wall?

Mine at 1000/1250 runs at around 1.03V but measures from the wall its way over 220 watts or so.

Your wattage seems very low.

GPUz says 160w for 1100/1300, 1.07v. I'm not sure how much it actually is, I just assume +20% for now. If it's 220w it's troublesome, have to buy more rig cases and do 6 gpu/rig. Need to measure with a wattmeter when I get back to the farm.

Mine in GPUz says like 120 Watts but from the wall it's over 225 Watts or so.

Been a while since I measured.

This is with a cheap Corsair Bronze CX750 PSU

[philipma1957]

Grabbed a few L3's

With the 200 dollar coupon  1296 price is pretty good.

I got 4 $100 coupons.  It seems that I'm only able to apply 1 per L3.  Is that right?  Still, $1,296 isn't bad per L3!

I was able to get 3 $200 dollar coupons.

I ordered 1 L3+ I am on the fence to order some more.

I have a power cap issue.  And I am not sure if I will end up getting the 5 dragon mints .

If I over order I will end up past the solar array power cap.  and summer rates are right around the corner for me to run in my garage in the summer costs 20 cents a kwatt.. Decisions

I have 14 1080ti hybrids or seahawks I keep them.
I have 3 omen gaming rigs with a total of 6 1080tis I keep them
I have a 2 card  1080ti diy pc keep it
I have 1 zotac 1080 ti I have 1 asus 1080ti with a fan mod  that is 24 1080ti's
I have 1 low end amd rig

I will have 1 L3+
some usb sticks
lastly 5 promised dragon mints.

all is paid for other then the dragon mints
plenty of coins and cash

but the power cap is a killer coming into the summer.

oh the 16 card rig comes tomorrow need to test and review it  see how it works.

[KaydenC]

Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.

R9 290 is a ton better at ETH than ZEC - bios mod them with one of TheStilt undervolt bios helps a ton on dropping temps, stability, and lowering power usage.

1100 core is WAY overkill for ETH mining on them - 900-950 seems to be about the most you need for max hashrate AND drops power consumption quite a bit.


Might vary a bit if you have aftermarket cards - mine are Sapphire reference models, and seem to be optimal on ETH mining at 1250 memory clock (1300 LOWERS hashrate and much higher gets unstable).

Will do more testing this weekend. But 1100 core is not overkill, r9 290 is core bottlenecked not memory limited in my testing. But I may be wrong, will need to try Stilt bios mods

I forgot to post, but sometime back a mobo capacitor popped and killed a card.
https://ibb.co/hpV97n
https://ibb.co/nKzfDS
https://ibb.co/fSwStS
https://ibb.co/c3EDYS

The whole system was still hashing (for 2 whole weeks) except for this card when I flew back to check.

[arielbit]

let me share my post in 2013 about my r9 290 blower

feels like a true spaceship launch with my r9 290

haha

[citronick]

let me share my post in 2013 about my r9 290 blower

feels like a true spaceship launch with my r9 290

haha

finally found the 3 x 290s that i got way back in 2015.

Its modded with Stilt BIOS and with front metal grill removed for added cooling.



Since we are on GPU cards of yesteryears, this one below is revived to full riserless format. One down, 5 more rigs to go.
The R9 Nanos were tuned back in 2016, with Heliox -100mV ROM, 800/500 timing and set with SMOS to mine Cryptonite at NH pushing 5700h/s at around 780watts total. A single Delta 2400w PSU will power 2 rigs like these.
Tuned them as "weak" as possible (like Cryptonite/XMR), before I decide how to make them fit into the current farm without tripping the DB. These Nanos have 4GB HBM RAM, so it will be waste if I couldn't leverage them to the best algo. Any suggestions?

[adaseb]

let me share my post in 2013 about my r9 290 blower

feels like a true spaceship launch with my r9 290

haha

finally found the 3 x 290s that i got way back in 2015.

Its modded with Stilt BIOS and with front metal grill removed for added cooling.



Since we are on GPU cards of yesteryears, this one below is revived to full riserless format. One down, 5 more rigs to go.
The R9 Nanos were tuned back in 2016, with Heliox -100mV ROM, 800/500 timing and set with SMOS to mine Cryptonite at NH pushing 5700h/s at around 780watts total. A single Delta 2400w PSU will power 2 rigs like these.
Tuned them as "weak" as possible (like Cryptonite/XMR), before I decide how to make them fit into the current farm without tripping the DB. These Nanos have 4GB HBM RAM, so it will be waste if I couldn't leverage them to the best algo. Any suggestions?

Yikes. What is with that rust.

Did you leave it mining outside?

[citronick]

let me share my post in 2013 about my r9 290 blower

feels like a true spaceship launch with my r9 290

haha

finally found the 3 x 290s that i got way back in 2015.

Its modded with Stilt BIOS and with front metal grill removed for added cooling.


Since we are on GPU cards of yesteryears, this one below is revived to full riserless format. One down, 5 more rigs to go.
The R9 Nanos were tuned back in 2016, with Heliox -100mV ROM, 800/500 timing and set with SMOS to mine Cryptonite at NH pushing 5700h/s at around 780watts total. A single Delta 2400w PSU will power 2 rigs like these.
Tuned them as "weak" as possible (like Cryptonite/XMR), before I decide how to make them fit into the current farm without tripping the DB. These Nanos have 4GB HBM RAM, so it will be waste if I couldn't leverage them to the best algo. Any suggestions?

Yikes. What is with that rust.

Did you leave it mining outside?

After close to 2 years of abuse in the gulag, the Nanos and 390s in the first farm, at its glory days, delivered 6.6GH of ETH hash. The just kept working, the warehouse had its fair share of heat issues, but we solved that with installing additional outtake fans and blowers.

I owe these guys alot and helped ROI the entire mining farms several folds.

Currently, no more ETH mining and got them mining Monero/Cryptonite - with much lower power consumption, allowing us to slowly build the ZEC farm with 1060s and 1070s.

Back then end 2015-early 2016, ETH was as low as 4$ peaked at 20$. We hoarded a handsome amount of ETH before selling them in batches at 150$, 400$ and 1000$....  :-)

Solo mining ETH got us 12-15 blocks per day back then.... those were the days.

Pro tip: I cleaned and dusted the first batch of 390s (with baby-wipes, compressor powered air-duster), .... after all that 2 out 5 cards, couldn't power up.... but the subsequent batches of 390s transferred (without cleaning) to the riser-less format worked from the first boot on SMOS. So now, I clean and dust them lightly AFTER putting them to work - worked every time. As long as fans and cooling fins are reasonably clean, I cant complain and cant possibly put them back to pristine condition.

[adaseb]

let me share my post in 2013 about my r9 290 blower

feels like a true spaceship launch with my r9 290

haha

finally found the 3 x 290s that i got way back in 2015.

Its modded with Stilt BIOS and with front metal grill removed for added cooling.


Since we are on GPU cards of yesteryears, this one below is revived to full riserless format. One down, 5 more rigs to go.
The R9 Nanos were tuned back in 2016, with Heliox -100mV ROM, 800/500 timing and set with SMOS to mine Cryptonite at NH pushing 5700h/s at around 780watts total. A single Delta 2400w PSU will power 2 rigs like these.
Tuned them as "weak" as possible (like Cryptonite/XMR), before I decide how to make them fit into the current farm without tripping the DB. These Nanos have 4GB HBM RAM, so it will be waste if I couldn't leverage them to the best algo. Any suggestions?

Yikes. What is with that rust.

Did you leave it mining outside?

After close to 2 years of abuse in the gulag, the Nanos and 390s in the first farm, at its glory days, delivered 6.6GH of ETH hash. The just kept working, the warehouse had its fair share of heat issues, but we solved that with installing additional outtake fans and blowers.

I owe these guys alot and helped ROI the entire mining farms several folds.

Currently, no more ETH mining and got them mining Monero/Cryptonite - with much lower power consumption, allowing us to slowly build the ZEC farm with 1060s and 1070s.

Back then end 2015-early 2016, ETH was as low as 4$ peaked at 20$. We hoarded a handsome amount of ETH before selling them in batches at 150$, 400$ and 1000$....  :-)

Solo mining ETH got us 12-15 blocks per day back then.... those were the days.

Pro tip: I cleaned and dusted the first batch of 390s (with baby-wipes, compressor powered air-duster), .... after all that 2 out 5 cards, couldn't power up.... but the subsequent batches of 390s transferred (without cleaning) to the riser-less format worked from the first boot on SMOS. So now, I clean and dust them lightly AFTER putting them to work - worked every time. As long as fans and cooling fins are reasonably clean, I cant complain and cant possibly put them back to pristine condition.

Yeah end of 2015 and early 2016 were the best days of ETH mining. I remember ETH hitting like $1

Back then the king GPU was the 7970/280x. Those puppies at low DAG hashed at like 26-27Mhs. Each card made like 1 ETH per GPU per day.

[dragonmike]

Each card made like 1 ETH per GPU per day.

Which wasn't very profitable. It would have been foolish to mine them unless you had free electricity.

[grchina]

Does anyone here maybe have some info about new nvidia cards like price or characteristics or are we still in the dark about them?Also cant belive that i missed seventh thread and saw it just now

[philipma1957]

Does anyone here maybe have some info about new nvidia cards like price or characteristics or are we still in the dark about them? Also cant belive that i missed seventh thread and saw it just now

better late then never


No real info on Nvidia 2070 2080 or 2080ti

[QuintLeo]

Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.

R9 290 is a ton better at ETH than ZEC - bios mod them with one of TheStilt undervolt bios helps a ton on dropping temps, stability, and lowering power usage.

1100 core is WAY overkill for ETH mining on them - 900-950 seems to be about the most you need for max hashrate AND drops power consumption quite a bit.


Might vary a bit if you have aftermarket cards - mine are Sapphire reference models, and seem to be optimal on ETH mining at 1250 memory clock (1300 LOWERS hashrate and much higher gets unstable).

What kind of power consumption would you have at those clocks, both with and without the bios mod?  I'm running some calculations based on the current power supplies etc that we have on hand.

 Ask me again next week, I'm getting ready to move a couple of them from an old "2 card" rig onto a new riser rig and I'll have it on the power meter to do measurements as part of that process.

[QuintLeo]

Since this thread is about the legacy r9 290s.

What do you guys mine with the Elpida memory ones?

ZEC seems to hang the system even at stock settings.

ETH is good at 29mh/s but very difficult to undervolt and maintain stability.

R9 290 is a ton better at ETH than ZEC - bios mod them with one of TheStilt undervolt bios helps a ton on dropping temps, stability, and lowering power usage.

1100 core is WAY overkill for ETH mining on them - 900-950 seems to be about the most you need for max hashrate AND drops power consumption quite a bit.


Might vary a bit if you have aftermarket cards - mine are Sapphire reference models, and seem to be optimal on ETH mining at 1250 memory clock (1300 LOWERS hashrate and much higher gets unstable).

Will do more testing this weekend. But 1100 core is not overkill, r9 290 is core bottlenecked not memory limited in my testing. But I may be wrong, will need to try Stilt bios mods

R9 290 is definitely memory limited on ETH, I DID do quite a bit of testing on that back when I was mining ETH on all of mine.
I'm not 100% sure where the limit is though, might depend on memory type too not just the clocks.
I'm not sure what memory my R9 290 Sapphire Reference cards have on them, something I'll get to look at when I move them and test on their new home.