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August 19, 2013, 01:44:36 AM
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Of course there are pre-orders as 50% of the population have below average intelligence.

What measure of intelligence are you using?
Any measure you choose.  Re-read the statement and think about it ...

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August 19, 2013, 07:41:21 AM
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Hi Everyone,

We have launched HashFast.com/blog.

-John

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August 19, 2013, 12:28:51 PM
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I ordered and did NOT get email confirmation upon payment network confirmation as promised.



I didn't either for awhile, they may have to go through your order manually like they did mine
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August 19, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
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I ordered and did NOT get email confirmation upon payment network confirmation as promised.



I didn't either for awhile, they may have to go through your order manually like they did mine

That does not inspire confidence.

For a USD 5000+ order, I think it makes perfect sense NOT to completely automatically process it.
So, for me, that rather does inspire confidence.

The broken webshop on the first day of sales didn't, though  Grin

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August 19, 2013, 04:00:02 PM
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I ordered and did NOT get email confirmation upon payment network confirmation as promised.
I didn't either for awhile, they may have to go through your order manually like they did mine

I ordered and paid 9 days ago and haven't received a confirmation yet.  5 days in I emailed to ask and they said they received payment and would send order confirmation in a "few" days.
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August 19, 2013, 04:29:15 PM
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I ordered and did NOT get email confirmation upon payment network confirmation as promised.
I didn't either for awhile, they may have to go through your order manually like they did mine

I ordered and paid 9 days ago and haven't received a confirmation yet.  5 days in I emailed to ask and they said they received payment and would send order confirmation in a "few" days.

There was a large backlog of confirmations for our manual orders, but all confirmations were supposed to be emailed out by last Friday. I'll ask sales to look into what happened with yours.

They will get back to you today.

Cheers,
Amy Woodward
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August 19, 2013, 05:51:30 PM
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Amy i haven't been able to get an answer to when this would happen. Appreciate it if someone can address this.

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August 19, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
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Amy i haven't been able to get an answer to when this would happen. Appreciate it if someone can address this.

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Yes I would like an update on this.
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August 19, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
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guys, i'm trying to get them to answer your questions.

try to give them a little bit more time.  they are focused on the fact that tapeout is supposed to occur any day now.

you guys do deserve better.
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August 19, 2013, 06:13:55 PM
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I ordered and did NOT get email confirmation upon payment network confirmation as promised.
I didn't either for awhile, they may have to go through your order manually like they did mine

I ordered and paid 9 days ago and haven't received a confirmation yet.  5 days in I emailed to ask and they said they received payment and would send order confirmation in a "few" days.

i've been told just now that they got a hold of you.  are you good?
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August 19, 2013, 06:25:39 PM
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ok, i just got off the phone with Skrodenis. 

he linked me to the order queue which needs to have a couple of big orders added to it.  so at least it does exist and he "promises" me it will be released sometime today.

remember, i'm just a link, not "part" of the company.  i can only shake the trees and i've been doing alot of it recently.
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August 19, 2013, 10:38:32 PM
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ok, i just got off the phone with Skrodenis.  

he linked me to the order queue which needs to have a couple of big orders added to it.  so at least it does exist and he "promises" me it will be released sometime today.

remember, i'm just a link, not "part" of the company.  i can only shake the trees and i've been doing alot of it recently.

Sorry for the delay guys, we wanted to ensure it was accurate.

I have posted it here:
https://hashfast.com/order-chain/

Orders processed during the last 48 hours will be added later today.

-John

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August 20, 2013, 01:44:05 AM
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Great! thanks John.

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August 20, 2013, 01:48:10 AM
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Great! thanks John.

+1 glad to see it.

Jon,

Do anticipate a date for the tape out being completed and will it be made public on blog/news?  Providing meaningful updates at least once a week is a good way to differentiate yourself from your competitors.
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August 20, 2013, 02:26:08 AM
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Great! thanks John.

+1 glad to see it.

Jon,

Do anticipate a date for the tape out being completed and will it be made public on blog/news?  Providing meaningful updates at least once a week is a good way to differentiate yourself from your competitors.

Yes tapeout is very close and we will absolutely announce it. 
Agreed. We are going to try to communicate more moving forward.

John

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August 20, 2013, 02:37:20 AM
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ok, i just got off the phone with Skrodenis.  

he linked me to the order queue which needs to have a couple of big orders added to it.  so at least it does exist and he "promises" me it will be released sometime today.

remember, i'm just a link, not "part" of the company.  i can only shake the trees and i've been doing alot of it recently.

Sorry for the delay guys, we wanted to ensure it was accurate.

I have posted it here:
https://hashfast.com/order-chain/

Orders processed during the last 48 hours will be added later today.

-John

Wow that guy that ordered 200 is going to be a happy customer.

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August 20, 2013, 02:49:30 AM
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ok, i just got off the phone with Skrodenis.  

he linked me to the order queue which needs to have a couple of big orders added to it.  so at least it does exist and he "promises" me it will be released sometime today.

remember, i'm just a link, not "part" of the company.  i can only shake the trees and i've been doing alot of it recently.

Sorry for the delay guys, we wanted to ensure it was accurate.

I have posted it here:
https://hashfast.com/order-chain/

Orders processed during the last 48 hours will be added later today.

-John

Wow that guy that ordered 200 is going to be a happy customer.

Or very sad if they don't ship in October.

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August 20, 2013, 03:00:31 AM
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Assuming hashing begins November 1st, BTC prices @ $100, free S+H, you will ROI in 130 days and stand to make under 10%. With BTC at $120 (as they are now), the figure jumps to 30% profit.
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August 20, 2013, 09:33:43 PM
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I'd like to write today about a small piece of why we are confident our product is better than KnCs.

So today's topic: Our silicon design is superior.

Both are 28nm designs, but HashFast's is far more powerful and energy-efficient.

Let's look at KnC's 28nm ASIC, and some basic details as we can pull from their documentation. https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-25

First let's calculate the hash rate per square millimeter of silicon. This is a measure of the efficiency of the design.

Honestly, we don't need much to estimate this. The lid size for their chip is enough to make some good estimates.
 
KnC's diagram shows their chip has a 41.2mm lid, and implies that the silicon under that lid may be between 30mm x 30mm, and 36mm x 36mm. (The additional space is needed for decoupling capacitors and such.)
    Let's use those two numbers as bounds for the size of the silicon under the lid. If the die(s) take up just 30x30mm of the space under the lid, then:
     30x30mm = 900mm^2
     100 GHash / 900 mm^2 = 0.11 GHash/mm^2

    Or if the die takes up a bit more of the space under the lid,
      36x36mm = 1296mm^2
      100 GHash / 1296mm^2 = 0.077 GHash/mm^2

HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
   One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
   Hashing per square mm:
      18x18mm = 324mm^2
      400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2
   
Let's compare those numbers, for the high and low values for KnC's chip:

      1.23 / 0.11 = 11.2
      1.23 / 0.077 = 16

So HashFast's chip is between 11 and 16 times more efficient, in hashing per square mm, than KnC's chip.

This has an impact on how fast we can deliver units to customers. One wafer of HashFast's chips has the same capacity as 11 to 16 wafers of KNCs. For each silicon wafer delivered by the foundry, KNC will be able to satisfy 11 to 16 times fewer customers than HashFast will be able to. You'll get your units faster once production starts from us.

In addition, the HashFast chip operates much more efficiently. You get four times the hash rate for the same amount of power (250W). (Based on 250W for 100 GHash from KnC, and 250W for 400 GHash from HashFast.)

Calculations such as this are a small part of why we are confident that we are delivering a quality product to our customers.

We figure it's time to start sharing.

Amy Woodward

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** P.S. Simon made me put in the line about overclocking. But as per the 'warranty' thread, no one would ever do that to our beautiful chips, right? Wink
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August 20, 2013, 09:47:17 PM
Last edit: August 20, 2013, 10:02:29 PM by crumbs
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@Amy:
"KnC's diagram shows their chip has a 41.2mm lid, and implies that the silicon under that lid may be between 30mm x 30mm, and 36mm x 36mm."
Could you explain how you have arrived at these numbers?  Why would the package size imply anything other than the size of the package?
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