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November 05, 2017, 03:25:36 AM
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Wealth is created by the exchange of value and the trade realises each global locations specific cost advantages, thats the standard wealth of nations view as to why global trade is so important.   Thats why holding is said to be bad, really its speculation which is the negative without any actual gains in each transaction so goods are passed only a token which benefits neither party.  Holding without any use or excessive speculation without trade would do similar and cause a failure.

Compare it to real world assets like gold.  Holding forever is what central banks do with tons of gold.   Literally it sits there for decades and golds only use is that it wont rust or react in any way, its doing zero.   Gold represents excess wealth and imbalance not utility not growth or industry but the demand for it is genuine and reliable.
However each of those central banks is also issuing notes of worth to circulate and attempts to balance an economy involving trade.   All that trade has real value and utility with the gold a holding to show capital backing to trades done by the token value of paper.

Bitcoin can only really keep gaining by being more well adjusted then that dollar and gold system.   It has no debt component but also no asset backing to each token value exchanged, it must enable trade or it will be replaced by a superior standard even while dollar declines alongside it.

Most of the banking system believes Bitcoin will not enable solid trade routes and so will end in speculation only.  The value is the technology which is open source and will be used elsewhere, that might be a fair conclusion if any other system can hold greater integrity then the dollar while showing more trade exchanged globally.  Most banking systems simply pair 1:1 ratio with the dollar and are flawed by that excess liquidity biased to politics not business or trade so banks will not beat bitcoin presently imo.   Genuine growth must serve capitalism or it is temporary.


Bitcoin 7 day moving average may be challenged, 4649 Eur or 34744 CNY.  The reaction to that and support 33433 CNY being where to judge it maybe.  Otherwise fib levels 5600 5530 are a repeat of previous days actions so far, but it may need to confirm support now

I like this view, for me to analyze just a part of the problem, it has many other factors to divert the analytical parameters and make many people trapped, that is, trapping the crowd.
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November 05, 2017, 09:24:00 AM
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the sky is the limit ,but for now ,seems 20k is the first target .if bitcoin can get to there ,i will sell some of my bitcoins and waiting for the dip and then buy back.

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November 05, 2017, 02:53:16 PM
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You can analyse all you want to, but at the end of the day real life events end up differently than the one expected. So it's mostly based on luck. Either the analysis is a bit correct or totaly wrong, kinda like weather predictions.
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November 05, 2017, 04:12:46 PM
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Sure, but Masterluc has been right many times. And he is able to explain his stuff. Legend imho.
I have been following him for a long time and always looking forward to new posts.
Again, legendary.
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November 05, 2017, 04:25:24 PM
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You can analyse all you want to, but at the end of the day real life events end up differently than the one expected. So it's mostly based on luck. Either the analysis is a bit correct or totaly wrong, kinda like weather predictions.

No. It’s not based on luck.
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November 05, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
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You can analyse all you want to, but at the end of the day real life events end up differently than the one expected. So it's mostly based on luck. Either the analysis is a bit correct or totaly wrong, kinda like weather predictions.

No. It’s not based on luck.
It's like the debate on whether weather prediction models should be stochastic or deterministic.
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November 05, 2017, 07:14:44 PM
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You can analyse all you want to, but at the end of the day real life events end up differently than the one expected. So it's mostly based on luck. Either the analysis is a bit correct or totaly wrong, kinda like weather predictions.

No. It’s not based on luck.
It's like the debate on whether weather prediction models should be stochastic or deterministic.

There is "noise" in bitcoin charts for sure. But not luck.
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November 05, 2017, 09:52:56 PM
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New Masterluc update:

Quote from: Google Translate
Who needs graphics - wipe the tape down.

We are approaching the intermediate station. According to my calculations at the level of 15000-20000, we are awaited by a deep correction in the area of ​​9000. Deep correction is expected within 2 weeks. Approximately at the same time, s2x fork is expected.

From which I conclude that fork most likely will be the cause of the "collapse".

This is really a bawdy fork, unlike BCH. I think the network will be more unstable.

Try not to touch your coins during fork and a few days later.

Try not to keep coins on third-party services at this time.

After the indicated levels, bitcoin, after many months, will go on storming six-digit values.

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga?w=wall-130254204_3467
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November 06, 2017, 02:51:01 AM
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I don't get it, it reads like we're going to hit 15k before the fork?
This guy thinks vanga is basically fronting

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HardFront turn 2 weeks. The price is in the range of 7000-7500. What are 15-20 to? What is the correction for 9 k, when 7500 did not pass. Under the hamster shorts, you are probably substituting. For more people to join the hayah and get rid of them. I do not argue that this bubble will be inflated and stronger, and that you managed to predict this powerful trend even before its inception. However, the last post does not correspond to reality. Written to make it even more greedy to kindle


Maybe Vanga is for real, or maybe he's substituting something under the hamster shorts, whatever that means.
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November 06, 2017, 04:20:29 AM
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I don't get it, it reads like we're going to hit 15k before the fork?
This guy thinks vanga is basically fronting

Oleg Vladimirovich
HardFront turn 2 weeks. The price is in the range of 7000-7500. What are 15-20 to? What is the correction for 9 k, when 7500 did not pass. Under the hamster shorts, you are probably substituting. For more people to join the hayah and get rid of them. I do not argue that this bubble will be inflated and stronger, and that you managed to predict this powerful trend even before its inception. However, the last post does not correspond to reality. Written to make it even more greedy to kindle


Maybe Vanga is for real, or maybe he's substituting something under the hamster shorts, whatever that means.

I think this was lost in translation. I think Luc is saying that we are on the way to 15-20k and we are going to have a correction around 9k. After that correction we head to 15-20 and then on to six figures. Pretty much lines up with his first target of the mid 9s anyway.
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November 06, 2017, 11:11:20 AM
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the mystic never misses ... some quiet contemplation is needed and the truth will reveal itself.

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November 06, 2017, 12:11:04 PM
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Maybe someone here who speaks Russian would be willing to go on VK and politely beg him to come back and post his thoughts here directly on occasion?
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November 06, 2017, 01:48:49 PM
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By him btc will drive to 9000$ untill fork,than will be big correct,after correct btc may goes to 14 k but it will take months,long time period
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November 06, 2017, 02:54:38 PM
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By him btc will drive to 9000$ untill fork,than will be big correct,after correct btc may goes to 14 k but it will take months,long time period
I see from your history that you're Polish.  I guess you have some facility with Russian.
That thing about substituting under the hamster shorts:  I sounds like very slangy Russian.  Are you familiar with that saying?
 Пoд шopт xoмячьё видимo пoдcтaвляeтe.
It's incredibly funny when translated literally to English.  But what does it mean?
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November 06, 2017, 03:24:03 PM
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Hamster shorts?

I was thinking it might be something like running in a hamster wheel/treadmill? or nibbling little nuts?   lol








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November 06, 2017, 04:05:21 PM
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Hamster shorts?

I was thinking it might be something like running in a hamster wheel/treadmill? or nibbling little nuts?   lol

Well, шopт xoмячьё means short hamster.  In fact, шopт is just a direct transliteration of the pronunciation "short" into cyrillic.  Like when Vanga or the people who comment on his blog transliterate "hai" for high instead of using a Russian word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9UqGOFoOE
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November 06, 2017, 05:00:27 PM
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Hamster shorts?

I was thinking it might be something like running in a hamster wheel/treadmill? or nibbling little nuts?   lol

Well, шopт xoмячьё means short hamster.  In fact, шopт is just a direct transliteration of the pronunciation "short" into cyrillic.  Like when Vanga or the people who comment on his blog transliterate "hai" for high instead of using a Russian word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9UqGOFoOE
I really have too much time on my hands.

I am not working for whales yet to manipulate btc trading so
It is direct translation Under short hmster appears to be substituted.
That sentence need to be edited,but larger text is needed  otherwise sentence may be out of context
Bing is pretty good translator,fb and twitter are using bing translator

But if your financial wealth depends from translation of one russian service

I saw comments on VK,immediatly hype was created after his 9k estimation and further growth to 14k,he told as i have ,wrote,9k after that deep correct becouse of 2x what by his opinion will be hard ,than many,many months further growth to above 10k possibly 14k 15k
Personally i dont think btc price will be 9 k,need accumulation on 7500k

But i suppose fork will create problems,

Volume is lower ,7600k it was weekend hype

https://www.bing.com/translator
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November 06, 2017, 07:11:19 PM
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Hamster shorts?

I was thinking it might be something like running in a hamster wheel/treadmill? or nibbling little nuts?   lol

Well, шopт xoмячьё means short hamster.  In fact, шopт is just a direct transliteration of the pronunciation "short" into cyrillic.  Like when Vanga or the people who comment on his blog transliterate "hai" for high instead of using a Russian word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9UqGOFoOE
I really have too much time on my hands.

I am not working for whales yet to manipulate btc trading so
It is direct translation Under short hmster appears to be substituted.
That sentence need to be edited,but larger text is needed  otherwise sentence may be out of context
Bing is pretty good translator,fb and twitter are using bing translator

But if your financial wealth depends from translation of one russian service

I saw comments on VK,immediatly hype was created after his 9k estimation and further growth to 14k,he told as i have ,wrote,9k after that deep correct becouse of 2x what by his opinion will be hard ,than many,many months further growth to above 10k possibly 14k 15k
Personally i dont think btc price will be 9 k,need accumulation on 7500k

But i suppose fork will create problems,

Volume is lower ,7600k it was weekend hype

https://www.bing.com/translator


More accurately he is saying after this correction - there will be several months before going to 100k+
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November 06, 2017, 07:39:50 PM
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Hamster shorts?

I was thinking it might be something like running in a hamster wheel/treadmill? or nibbling little nuts?   lol

Well, шopт xoмячьё means short hamster.  In fact, шopт is just a direct transliteration of the pronunciation "short" into cyrillic.  Like when Vanga or the people who comment on his blog transliterate "hai" for high instead of using a Russian word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9UqGOFoOE
I really have too much time on my hands.

I am not working for whales yet to manipulate btc trading so
It is direct translation Under short hmster appears to be substituted.
That sentence need to be edited,but larger text is needed  otherwise sentence may be out of context
Bing is pretty good translator,fb and twitter are using bing translator

But if your financial wealth depends from translation of one russian service

I saw comments on VK,immediatly hype was created after his 9k estimation and further growth to 14k,he told as i have ,wrote,9k after that deep correct becouse of 2x what by his opinion will be hard ,than many,many months further growth to above 10k possibly 14k 15k
Personally i dont think btc price will be 9 k,need accumulation on 7500k

But i suppose fork will create problems,

Volume is lower ,7600k it was weekend hype

https://www.bing.com/translator


More accurately he is saying after this correction - there will be several months before going to 100k+

Check out Masterluc's replies to some of the comments.  He thinks it will take more than 12 months.

Marc Hohn
When do you expect BTC to reach 6 digits? During 2018, within 12 months from now? Do you think McAfee will not have to eat his balls, so 500.000 in 3 years is possible?

Marc , it depends on many things. Whether the top would be the terminal of the historical. I could answer this only after analyzing coming crash.
yesterday at 2:21 pm

Marc Hohn
OK, thanks. So, first we have to reach 6 digit, and that could happen in next 12 months?

Marc , 12? No. I dont think it will be so fast.

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November 06, 2017, 08:01:21 PM
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Hamster shorts?

I was thinking it might be something like running in a hamster wheel/treadmill? or nibbling little nuts?   lol

Well, шopт xoмячьё means short hamster.  In fact, шopт is just a direct transliteration of the pronunciation "short" into cyrillic.  Like when Vanga or the people who comment on his blog transliterate "hai" for high instead of using a Russian word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9UqGOFoOE
I really have too much time on my hands.

I am not working for whales yet to manipulate btc trading so
It is direct translation Under short hmster appears to be substituted.
That sentence need to be edited,but larger text is needed  otherwise sentence may be out of context
Bing is pretty good translator,fb and twitter are using bing translator

But if your financial wealth depends from translation of one russian service

I saw comments on VK,immediatly hype was created after his 9k estimation and further growth to 14k,he told as i have ,wrote,9k after that deep correct becouse of 2x what by his opinion will be hard ,than many,many months further growth to above 10k possibly 14k 15k
Personally i dont think btc price will be 9 k,need accumulation on 7500k

But i suppose fork will create problems,

Volume is lower ,7600k it was weekend hype

https://www.bing.com/translator


More accurately he is saying after this correction - there will be several months before going to 100k+

Check out Masterluc's replies to some of the comments.  He thinks it will take more than 12 months.

Marc Hohn
When do you expect BTC to reach 6 digits? During 2018, within 12 months from now? Do you think McAfee will not have to eat his balls, so 500.000 in 3 years is possible?

Marc , it depends on many things. Whether the top would be the terminal of the historical. I could answer this only after analyzing coming crash.
yesterday at 2:21 pm

Marc Hohn
OK, thanks. So, first we have to reach 6 digit, and that could happen in next 12 months?

Marc , 12? No. I dont think it will be so fast.



Thanks for pointing that out.   I think its probably more like 12-36 months. At either rate, Luc believes, as do I, we are in a long bull trend.  This could go on for a while.
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