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January 16, 2018, 06:57:09 AM
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Never done it so far. I always divide my bankroll in trading because I have to prepare for unexpected thing. I will use no more than 50% of my bankroll, while the other 50% is to prepare if the first trade is not going as expected. Doing all in is indeed may give a great profit but it may give a bad result as well if we choose the wrong coin. So I would prefer to be safe than sorry, it will be bad situation for me if I do all in but it is not on the right coin at the right time.

You have a point, that is why I am not also a fan of trading, let us say that I don't have much time like others who devote their full time here in doing trading and campaign, but since I am rendering my almost 12 hours at work so I cannot really find time to do trading, but I am holding bitcoin which for me have an assurance compare to trading.
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January 16, 2018, 07:24:50 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
Well, in trading is nice to always have some fund set aside for quick buy when there is dump in price because everything about crypto trading is time and I could back in the year 2016 when there was dumped in price all the crypto trader back than make 150%.
 
Don't get greedy or you'll loose your fund wait patiently for the right time.

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January 16, 2018, 07:36:55 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
This is why I will never ever go all-in in just one investment, when investing in cryptocurrencies we are speculating and there is no guarantee that we always makes the right decisions on where to put our money, loses are normal when investing in all kinds of markets and there is no way that we can prevent this to happen but we can lessen it by diversifying our money into different kinds of cryptocurrency or if you don't want to diversify you should always have extra funds so whenever the price drops you still have money to buy and add your investment.
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January 16, 2018, 07:44:13 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
This is the consequence on going all in when you are already pending on your actions since you dont have anything left on your pocket to spend on into another positions or even make use of back up plans. Going all in isnt a good idea most of the time but well its your money after all you do have the full control on making decisions that you would made but on wise side dont go all in its very risky and the same time we cant assure anytime with our actions.

Ideally, it's better to have a larger capital because you would have more profits or gains however you shouldn't go all in because trading is risky and there's a possibility for you to lose everything. As said, it's good to have fall back or back up plan because of the risk of losing all your money. It's also very important to control your emotions when trading otherwise you may make the wrong decisions if you are affected by your emotions.
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January 16, 2018, 07:49:38 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

I think you have been emotional, You are not greedy but if you wait and have patience then sure you will make profit from trading. You know before 1 and half year ago i bought some coins for 0.05 and then still i hold it for 1 year and in this time i sold it and now i gain profit only 0.004. Less than i have no lose and if i did greedy and lost the patience then definitely i have sold them in a lose. So i suggest you have patience and hold the coin till the end, one day you will definitely make profit from it.    

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January 16, 2018, 07:53:54 AM
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It is actually not advisable to go all in when trading. Engaging in such an act will automatically set-in emotions, which is not ideal during trading. There should always be something left to enter other promising positions.

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January 16, 2018, 08:16:48 AM
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I trade off the order book and depth chart on gdax. I bought when I did because I saw the wall on the depth chart and was confident the price was going to upswing when it hit the wall.  There were more buy orders than sell orders at that second. I stuck with my strategy however It didn't work that time. I'm not worried about losing money. I never sell below the price I bought in at. I just wait for it to come back up. Then place my sell order within a few dollars of the wall so I get the execution right before it hits and changes direction.

from your comments I couldn't figure out what coin you are trading. is it bitcoin?

generally speaking these walls are not exactly always the best source for any kind of analysis because sometimes they are there for manipulation and are placed by whales and will move if price gets near them.
with that said, buying something that is dropping is not always the best choice. for example altcoins are currently dropping but they are not going to recover for a very long time if at all for some of them.
and bitcoin is currently not going to have any major rallies and will continue to stay at this current price for a longer time.

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January 16, 2018, 08:21:01 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
Every trader is trapped in such trouble. And I'm also stuck with TRON (TRX). After seeing the value increase rapidly in a short while when it is priced at $ 0.16 and now I'm really stuck at a mismatched price of $ 0.07 Sad

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January 16, 2018, 08:37:17 AM
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Good for you OP, but every trader have their own style or technique or ways on how thry trade. I in fact were trading all in before but decided in the long run not to because it is too risky and I don’t want to wait for so long to gain my losses back. I’m probably one of those they call as a safe trader.
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January 16, 2018, 08:40:19 AM
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The problem with the "all-in" strategy is you trick yourself into believing that you could have pulled it off in the past with hindsight. Let's say you invest in 5 projects, and one of them moons. You can convince yourself that you were really planning to put more money into that one project but you didn't. In reality you probably would feel the same way about any one of the 5 projects if they mooned and convince yourself that that project is the one you were really planning to choose above the others.

Try it now with a future project, just pick one but pretend it is your "all-in". This is the best test to determine whether you have the market knowledge to actually pull this sort of strategy off in the future without proper diversification. You might be surprised that your picks aren't as accurate as you may think (although for some of course they are - you must test yourself to find out).

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January 16, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

When we go ALL IN, we are intentionally gambling with our capital. It is because we don't know what could be the result later.
If the decision turns into positive then we are happy, but if it turns negative then we are BLOCKED for uncertain time.
That's why it is more logical that we do not go ALL IN by any means. Even though positive result possibility is high.

I'm not saying that I do not make mistakes. I always do that and I know WHY.... Its just the GREED.

When I first went all in with Siacoin at polo, I promised that I will not do it again.
But I'm idiot enough to do the same mistake and I already did it with TRX recently and now I'm suffering in hyper tension.

As I trade into multiple exchanges, I have divided my overall capital in all exchanges.
So I always go all in with one exchange balance, so that my trading in other exchanges doesn't gets blocked.

WE JUST SHOULD NOT GO ALL IN BY ANY MEANS, unless you are 1000000% sure about the result.
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January 16, 2018, 08:48:04 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

Actually i never all in one and my strategy never ask me to do all in one because it is more dangerous.
One day, i had mistake and i stuck with waiting like you said and hate waiting. Its boring and i will never do it again someday.
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January 16, 2018, 08:48:19 AM
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Patience is key here. Also going all in is never adviseable, unless you are yourself setting up prices. Goin all in leaves you with nothing for those times when your prediction proves you wrong.

Having something left with us gives us hope that next time we may take out what we put in now. Getting all in and then having to let go it is like getting broke.

Market watch is predictabke but not always 100% true. At the end of the day therer are more speculators than invstors. Nothing is that predictable which allows you to go all in.
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January 16, 2018, 09:14:43 AM
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I think many people go all in with bitcoin but anything can go good or bad so I'm just 50/50.

Is there any specific reason to go all in? This is trading and not gambling and dont confuse the two. As a matter of fact trading is much more profitable than gambling if you where and when to put your money into. If you are so poor that you have only 10$ to invest then you can go all in but for bigger funds spreading into different altcoins is better.

Good for you OP, but every trader have their own style or technique or ways on how thry trade. I in fact were trading all in before but decided in the long run not to because it is too risky and I don’t want to wait for so long to gain my losses back. I’m probably one of those they call as a safe trader.

Honestly no sane trader is going to go all in on a single coin. I dont know if you are going to differ to this but people who trade (not the losers though) know which coins to put money into and they definitely dont go all in on one coin.

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January 16, 2018, 10:11:07 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

I don't think that trading it all in is a very wise move. There should be a division to one's trade because it lessens the chance of failure and increases the number of chances in succeeding. It would be really helpful to know the right strategy when it comes to trading. This is why I study here in https://daneel.io/ before deciding on something.
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January 16, 2018, 11:12:02 AM
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Yes! I am all in when trading but not all in on a particular coin. I tend to lke to divesify. Though when you diversify your profit might not be as big as when yougo all in on a particular coin. The difference od course is that you mitigate loss and expand your capacity to earn!

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January 16, 2018, 11:23:03 AM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
If you are successful then you can do the right analysis, but sometimes make a decision in trading is not an easy thing. Sometimes things are very likely to happen, but there is a miracle and everything changes very quickly. it often happens in the trading world, as it happens today that everyone does not believe there has been a decline in all coins. Though some time ago we always get a positive green trend. This is a concern, so if I do that then I will divide some portions to do trading and partly I Hold. I think it is the best option because I will feel safe and if something bad happens to one then I can have a chance on one side of the other.
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January 16, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
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I think you are too hasty to pursue profits in trading. the main key in trading is patience, but it is not a problem and hopefully it will be a lesson for you because I am sure everyone has failed.

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January 16, 2018, 10:38:08 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad


Will each one of us has different ways on how to gain in trading investment,about in your way of trading its nice strategy,but it happens things in your trading that your in bad timing and continue to slow and drop the price,and all you can do is wait and sitback,but always remember that there is the grace of patience of holding all your transaction asset,just wait that the price value will return to its normal trends.

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January 16, 2018, 10:51:29 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
Thats a lesson to take in and be that a warning to you. Not to invest all in. Although even you are stuck waiting just consider an affordable price that you think is enough for a loss then sell it or else youll be waiting for the rest of your live.
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