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February 04, 2016, 10:36:06 PM
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February 04, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
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Just a few spots left in our signature campaign and then it will be closed!  Join to earn bitcoin from every post you make here at BitcoinTalk.org and to receive a free prize at the end of each month.  Prizes include tickets to private freeroll tournaments and casino bonuses.  Also, you can check the feedback from all of our great participants and sign up here:

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February 05, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
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Wanted to thank Betcoin.ag and their campaign manager for the great Stage 3 of the signature campaign with a prompt payment and ticket to the Daily Coin 1 btc gtd.  Looking forward to a great stage 4 and glad I made it in just in time.

You can also check my sports picks out in the NBA section here at BitcoinTalk where I feature a daily lock that is doing very well.  Also, interested in eSports predictions as this industry is very new and there is probably some great value if you can spot the trends. 

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February 05, 2016, 10:13:21 PM
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Wanted to thank Betcoin.ag and their campaign manager for the great Stage 3 of the signature campaign with a prompt payment and ticket to the Daily Coin 1 btc gtd.  Looking forward to a great stage 4 and glad I made it in just in time.

You can also check my sports picks out in the NBA section here at BitcoinTalk where I feature a daily lock that is doing very well.  Also, interested in eSports predictions as this industry is very new and there is probably some great value if you can spot the trends. 


So theyre cool with you just making a new account?

I haven't crunched the numbers (and I'm a moron) but assuming you were up a decent ammount on your other account does making a new account increase your value  since lossback comes back into play?
There is some great value in the following games today and wanted to share.  I have been sharing a lock each day the last three days and will continue to do so.

ftwbtc, I noticed you posted the same thing on Betcoins forum, which is interesting because when I check your profile it says you registered just this month and still a Bronze 3.


You really are a complete moron.  I created a new account to have my social profiles match online .

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February 05, 2016, 11:12:56 PM
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Wanted to thank Betcoin.ag and their campaign manager for the great Stage 3 of the signature campaign with a prompt payment and ticket to the Daily Coin 1 btc gtd.  Looking forward to a great stage 4 and glad I made it in just in time.

You can also check my sports picks out in the NBA section here at BitcoinTalk where I feature a daily lock that is doing very well.  Also, interested in eSports predictions as this industry is very new and there is probably some great value if you can spot the trends. 


So theyre cool with you just making a new account?

I haven't crunched the numbers (and I'm a moron) but assuming you were up a decent ammount on your other account does making a new account increase your value  since lossback comes back into play?
There is some great value in the following games today and wanted to share.  I have been sharing a lock each day the last three days and will continue to do so.

ftwbtc, I noticed you posted the same thing on Betcoins forum, which is interesting because when I check your profile it says you registered just this month and still a Bronze 3.


You really are a complete moron.  I created a new account to have my social profiles match online .

They wouldnt think it is ok I think.  No site that offers poker should ever just let players make new account just because they dont want somebody to know what there real account is named?
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February 06, 2016, 06:02:00 PM
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Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 50 - 1 BTC Guess The Score Promotion

Enter the Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 1 BTC promotion by selecting a winning prematch wager and accurately predicting the score of the game. Details below!

Betcoin Sports is excited to introduce the Betcoin Sports 1 BTC Super Bowl 50 promotion, simply place a winning wager of 0.015 btc or more on any Super Bowl prematch selection and accurately predict the score of the game and you will be entered for your share of 1 btc.

In order to enter this promotion you must place your Betcoin Sports betslip in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion along with your predicted score of the game. You can enter this promotion up to 5 different times with 5 different wagers. By way of example:

You can select Carolina to win -5 and a score of 26-17 in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion. You must include your ticket. Should multiple players win the wager and predict the score, the 1 BTC will be split among the winners.

We wish everyone the best of luck and enjoy the game!


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February 06, 2016, 08:42:13 PM
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PLEASE STOP IGNORING ME BETCOIN



We have a lot of respect for many of the other websites in the bitcoin gaming community and there is plenty of room for us all to succeed and continue to compete for your business.  This will only make the opportunities better for all of our great players.  hopenotlate and donk4u we encourage you both to continue to post as you see fit here at bitcoin talk and not be dissuaded by another persons attempts to censor you.  Fortunately, people here at bitcointalk are very smart and can discern truth from opinion and develop their own experience. 

I would like to encourage you to respond to my posts.
You mention not letting others censor them, but you are guilty of censorship yourself.
Why did you delete these posts?
Do you consider this spam?

Wow, deleted my posts within 2 minutes...what rule did I break this time Betcoin?



Why is betcoin refusing to accept responsibility for failing to protect players personal email addresses?

Why is betcoin refusing to accept responsibility for taking more rake than they were entitled to?

Why hasn't Betcoin explained to me why I am banned from your site, when all I've done (and will continue to do) is ask questions just like these?  Meanwhile, there are many players who have have cheated or scammed other players that are not banned.  Do you really consider me more of a threat than multi accounters like freshstart?  Or serial scammers like Rozay?  Or someone worldpeace who ddos' other players in hopes of extorting money from them?

Is this something you've learned just recently? 

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people here at bitcointalk are very smart and can discern truth from opinion and develop their own experience. 

Because not long ago you seemed very willing to lie.  Did you think then that people here at bitcointalk weren't smart enough to see through your unscrupulous scumbaggery?  Is that why you are ignoring me now?  You know lying won't work, do you think telling the truth would be even worse?

In case you don't remember, here are two of the lies you've told.  Each time you were called out you simply pretended as if nothing had ever happened, I suppose you were just hoping that eventually everyone would forget about them and they would be buried in the thread forever. 






  • Betcoin can't ignore Dooglus, so they lie to him
    It's a little concerning that you don't appear to have replied to any of his posts here. He seems to be raising valid concerns, but you leave them unanswered.
    Did you really use 10 BTC confiscated from cheating players to fund a promotion instead of giving them back to the players they were stolen from? If so, how do you justify that?
    Did you really allow those same cheating players to them play in the freeroll funded with the money they stole, after claiming to have zero tolerance for cheating? That sounds pretty crazy if it's true.

    It seems Betcoin Jessica was unaware that Betcoin Andrew had already admitted they had let the cheaters play months ago HERE

    Hi Dooglus, it's because we did return most of the btc and we still ran a 10 btc freeroll to thank players for their support on top of returning funds.  This was many months ago and was handled expediently.  Ironically, most of the players were from a prop program which we no longer have, yet most of the players still play in. 
    No we did not allow those players to play in the tournament but as you may know a bitcoin gaming website creates some unique challenges which we embrace. 
    We have addressed all of this before and will happily address it again as we continue to move forward. 
    Thanks guys!
    Jessica

    Quote from: Betcoin Andrew (Months Earlier)
    After several emails with this player and banning the other accounts associated, we have let him play under a strict watchful eye. We believe in second chances at Betcoin and we are watching him and many other players very closely.




  • Betcoin lies about their own ticket system while attempting to discredit a player who claims they have many unanswered tickets.
    I still have ~ 3 dozen support tickets that date back as far as 9 months ago that are still open and unresolved and ~ 1 dozen of which have never even been replied to.
    Very interesting considering we haven't had the ticketing system anywhere close to 9 months.  What is your login name?  36 unresolved tickets over 9 months is definitely something we would like to see considering we only added the ticketing system 4-6 months ago.  Also, to note, unresolved tickets brought to our attention will be resolved, therefore just let us know your login name and we will have an immediate review. 

    I posted an email with a link to a ticket from last March proving they did, in fact, have the ticketing system then.

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    From: Betcoin.ag [mailto:support@betcoin.ag]
    Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:02 PM
    To:XXXXXXXXXXX
    Subject: Ticket #10059: My Affiliate

    ---- Reply above this line ----

    twitchyseal,

    Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your ticket. We usually respond to emails within a few hours, however, sometimes it can take up to 24 hours to get a response. When replying to future responses, please make sure that the Ticket ID is kept in the email subject so that we can track your replies.

    If you have an account you can view your ticket at:
    https://www.betcoin.ag/ticket/10059





badjacks99 I contacted support


You're not support?  Would you mind sharing your name/who you are with us?  Something to call you to differentiate between other Betcoin employees.

It can be confusing without knowing who is posting.  The previous "forum rep" for Betcoin (Jessica) it turns out was not very truthful with the community.

She made it seem as if her only title was "forum rep", as it turns out - she was part of management.  They probably didn't want anyone to know it was management behaving that way, and even "reassigned her"

Maybe I'm replying to "Jessica" right now...who knows.  

Evidence...as usual...


We would actually much rather have you back in the community.  Our staff is working on much of the great feedback you and all of our players have provided. I am the forum rep and as advised by owners, staff etc. going back and forth in a forum is never productive, but staying on the first page in the thread is very beneficial for Betcoin as the referrals from BitcoinTalk have never been higher.  We will continue to work hard to make everything as perfect as possible at Betcoin and you will always be welcome back.

What questions?

You are helping as we can track the clickthroughs coming from bitcointalk and the specific threads they come from.  

What specific issues.

We would like to provide a bonus for you to come back in and enjoy the great community, but I guess we need to answer some questions you have?

I am reassigned but not far!  I do take this too personal because I see how hard this team works and what we are trying to deliver to everyone.  It's a special group that continues to just give and give more to the great players we have and continue to get everyday.

Sincerely,

Jessica

Jessica has been reassigned for the time being and she was not aware of the reasoning behind Dooglus' negative trust rating when that message was written.  We apologize for that comment in full and appreciate you providing your humble opinion.

Thank you for playing with us.  Everything continues to get better at Betcoin Casino and the entire network and we will continue to improve it.  




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February 06, 2016, 09:00:39 PM
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Is it ok to have multi account on your site?
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February 08, 2016, 10:16:05 PM
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Is it ok to have multi account on your site?

Multi-accounting is strictly prohibited at Betcoin as you are well aware because we have shut most of your 30+ accounts down including all of your twitchyseal accounts.  We would like to thank you for being in the top 5% of users in time spent on Betcoin.ag and it's good to see that you enjoy multiaccounting not only on Betcoin but also here at Bitcointalk! 

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February 08, 2016, 10:16:58 PM
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Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 50 - 1 BTC Guess The Score Promotion

Enter the Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 1 BTC promotion by selecting a winning prematch wager and accurately predicting the score of the game. Details below!

Betcoin Sports is excited to introduce the Betcoin Sports 1 BTC Super Bowl 50 promotion, simply place a winning wager of 0.015 btc or more on any Super Bowl prematch selection and accurately predict the score of the game and you will be entered for your share of 1 btc.

In order to enter this promotion you must place your Betcoin Sports betslip in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion along with your predicted score of the game. You can enter this promotion up to 5 different times with 5 different wagers. By way of example:

You can select Carolina to win -5 and a score of 26-17 in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion. You must include your ticket. Should multiple players win the wager and predict the score, the 1 BTC will be split among the winners.

We wish everyone the best of luck and enjoy the game!



What a game!  Winners of the promo will be announced at www.Betcoin.ag by 8pm EST here:  https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion

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February 08, 2016, 10:23:45 PM
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I now have hand histories of over raked pots going back to 10/31/15.  Hands before this appear to be capped properly.  I think we can conclude that the "mistake" which resulted in Betcoin double or tripling their cap happened around midnight UTC 10/30/15.

The updated time frame during which Betcoin accidentally took but will not return (aka stole) is 10/31/15 - 12/9/15

Well over 600,000 hands were dealt, I'll share more accurate figures later.


Also, for a easier to digest summary of Betcoins uscroupulous scumbaggery, see this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg13507632#msg13507632




also, lmao at this

Is it ok to have multi account on your site?

Multi-accounting is strictly prohibited at Betcoin as you are well aware because we have shut most of your 30+ accounts down including all of your twitchyseal accounts.  We would like to thank you for being in the top 5% of users in time spent on Betcoin.ag and it's good to see that you enjoy multiaccounting not only on Betcoin but also here at Bitcointalk! 

If multi accounting is strictly prohibited, why isn't ftwbtc  banned?

How many accounts have you closed assuming they were me?
 

Did you ban this guy too?


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February 08, 2016, 10:37:47 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2016, 01:48:00 AM by Betcoin.AG
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Congratulations to our Superbowl 50 Winners splitting the 1 btc promotion prize.

Technically, nobody guessed the exact score, however we are still awarding the top 4 winners based on the information below.  Congratulations!

1. frankd908
2. Weaver0008
3. plo8monster
4. BigThangz

We will continue to provide more promotions and opportunities to win bitcoin moving forward. The winners each had to have Denver selected as the winner in a score, be the closest to the final score of 24-20 as nobody picked it perfectly and have wagered at least 0.015 btc in a winning wager.

Thank you to everyone for their participation.

Here is the official thread: https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion

Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 50 - 1 BTC Guess The Score Promotion

Enter the Betcoin Sports Super Bowl 1 BTC promotion by selecting a winning prematch wager and accurately predicting the score of the game. Details below!

Betcoin Sports is excited to introduce the Betcoin Sports 1 BTC Super Bowl 50 promotion, simply place a winning wager of 0.015 btc or more on any Super Bowl prematch selection and accurately predict the score of the game and you will be entered for your share of 1 btc.

In order to enter this promotion you must place your Betcoin Sports betslip in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion along with your predicted score of the game. You can enter this promotion up to 5 different times with 5 different wagers. By way of example:

You can select Carolina to win -5 and a score of 26-17 in a comment on this thread https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion. You must include your ticket. Should multiple players win the wager and predict the score, the 1 BTC will be split among the winners.

We wish everyone the best of luck and enjoy the game!



What a game!  Winners of the promo will be announced at www.Betcoin.ag by 8pm EST here:  https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-super-bowl-50-1-btc-guess-score-promotion

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February 08, 2016, 11:30:14 PM
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Congratulations to the winners!

I need to pay more attention to these promos Wink although I was going to pick the panthers to win... Glad I didn't throw any coins down on this Super Bowl.

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February 11, 2016, 05:28:53 PM
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"Quote from: Betcoin.AG on November 30, 2015, 02:07:12 PM

"Jessica has been reassigned for the time being..."

Gender reassignment? Going to go back to being a male?
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February 12, 2016, 09:48:42 PM
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NBA All Star Game Lines guys?  Also any props/futures on the dunk contest or 3 point shoot out?

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NBA All Star Game Lines guys?  Also any props/futures on the dunk contest or 3 point shoot out?

I to am interested in this. Would like to put some money on JJ to dethrone curry Wink

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February 13, 2016, 10:57:34 PM
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Betcoin Sports Presents the 2016 NBA All Star Game - LIVE and Prematch

Betcoin Sports is excited to present LIVE and Prematch wagering opotions for the 2016 NBA All-Star Game at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto.


https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-presents-2016-nba-all-star-game-live-and-prematch

The 2016 NBA All-Star Game will be the 65th edition and is an exhibition basketball game that will be played on Sunday, February 14, 2016. It will be held at Air Canada Centre in Toronto, home of the Toronto Raptors. The Raptors were awarded the All-Star Game in an announcement on September 30, 2013. This will be the first time that the game will be held outside the United States.

You can get all your LIVE and prematch sports wagering options at Betcoin Sports

http://sports.betcoin.ag/#/sport/match/50778


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February 14, 2016, 02:27:59 AM
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Betcoin Sports Presents the 2016 NBA All Star Game - LIVE and Prematch

Betcoin Sports is excited to present LIVE and Prematch wagering opotions for the 2016 NBA All-Star Game at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto.


https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-presents-2016-nba-all-star-game-live-and-prematch

The 2016 NBA All-Star Game will be the 65th edition and is an exhibition basketball game that will be played on Sunday, February 14, 2016. It will be held at Air Canada Centre in Toronto, home of the Toronto Raptors. The Raptors were awarded the All-Star Game in an announcement on September 30, 2013. This will be the first time that the game will be held outside the United States.

You can get all your LIVE and prematch sports wagering options at Betcoin Sports

http://sports.betcoin.ag/#/sport/match/50778



Was checking out the options for the game and honestly this game is like a crap shoot.  318 for totals and -5.5 for the West seem so random.  Anyone have some insight.  Looking forward to the return of the regular season. 

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February 14, 2016, 05:33:12 PM
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Suggestion:  Add a tracker that a user can display or not that shows the win loss record of a particular player in sports.  Personally, I would like to see my stats and share them with the community. 

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February 14, 2016, 05:55:09 PM
Last edit: February 14, 2016, 11:52:57 PM by TwitchySeal
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Proof that Noobtc is the same shill as "ftwbtc"
(Both accounts are likely run by whoever runs the Betcoin.ag account imo)





On Bitcoin talk Noobtc posts this comment:
In retrospect, don't slow play those Kings!  __ACTl0NNNN is lucky SillySausage didn't have more on the table!


Within 10 minutes ftwbtc post the following on the Betcoin.ag forum:

https://www.betcoin.ag/actl0nnnn-loses-king-quads-royal-flush-bad-beat-poker-hand#comment-52948








Interacting with themself:

I just signed up at Betcoin and then saw this thread.  After reading through it and the attacks to the poster.  Are you an employee of Betcoin?  How do I get reassigned to you?  

I don't believe you can change your affiliate once you have one or get reassigned.  There is a lot of trolling going on in here so who knows when Xiaoxiao will be back.  

Posting as a new signup last week, and a long time user over a year earlier...

Just getting started at Betcoin and really enjoying it.  Is there a way to change your affiliate?  Does anybody know.  I did some great research before signing up and tried many different sites.  I can see why people like twitchyseal and a few other people are so passionate about wanting to improve Betcoin, because it really is a fun place to play.  Twitchy's tactics are completely ineffective though and they come off as spamming trolls IMO.  Great value in the VIP at Betcoin, maybe the best online, 24/7 live customer service, great casino, dice, sports.  Betcoin gets my vote for best all around bitcoin gaming destination.  Keep up the good work and let the trolls be trolls.  


Over 1 year earlier....


I have been playing with Betcoin since 2013 and have seen these guys make a lot of changes and improvements.  I have experienced instant withdrawals for many months now, can't remember when it first started, but I have noticed I get the instant withdrawals when I use a bitcoin address that I have used before.  Keep up the good work guys.  You really do have a great thing going.  


Attacking me 2 months ago as ftwbtc, and again as noobtc last week...


Also, I just had to comment on these twitchyseal postings because they are quite fascinating.  On the one hand he claims Betcoin is a fraud but on the other he is dying to get back onto the site and play!  If it's really a fraud why does he want to play on Betcoin so bad?  Lol, I have never seen anything like this before.  Perhaps by banning him you are doing a good deed in keeping away from his perceived fraud!  

Get the table starter going again!  Thanks.

I know you want back in because nobody in their right mind would waste this much time spamming unless they wanted to get back involved.  Perhaps you have friends you want to talk to there or miss playing the tournaments or whatever else you did there.  I can personally say that in chat I have seen people talk about you in a positive light and even seen a discussion led by Betcoin staff member asking how to bring you back in.  Examining these communications, they probably would welcome you back, but fear that you would spam their forum as much as you spam here.  Plus, if you don't intend to play there, why does it matter if you are banned or not? Personally, I am indifferent I see some good in the things you have mentioned but a lot of bad in your approach.  It definitely makes sense to me why you are banned.  

EDIT:  By the way, I have said many times that I would stop commenting on this topic, but quite frankly I am fascinated.  Perhaps I can mediate this matter.  


Just getting started at Betcoin and really enjoying it.  Is there a way to change your affiliate?  Does anybody know.  I did some great research before signing up and tried many different sites.  I can see why people like twitchyseal and a few other people are so passionate about wanting to improve Betcoin, because it really is a fun place to play.  Twitchy's tactics are completely ineffective though and they come off as spamming trolls IMO.  Great value in the VIP at Betcoin, maybe the best online, 24/7 live customer service, great casino, dice, sports.  Betcoin gets my vote for best all around bitcoin gaming destination.  Keep up the good work and let the trolls be trolls.  

TwitchySeal you need to either get back into Betcoin, I am not sure what you did, but you mention that you have been banned in another thread or you need to get some serious help man. I am not trying to be rude or anything but as a casual observer you look and write like an obsessed maniac.  I actually feel sorry for you man.  On another note, I really do enjoy playing at Betcoin, it truly is the best all around bitcoin gaming destination.  


Post from a while ago pointing out all evidence that suggests ftwbtc is a shill.


There is some great value in the following games today and wanted to share.  I have been sharing a lock each day the last three days and will continue to do so.

ftwbtc, I noticed you posted the same thing on Betcoins forum, which is interesting because when I check your profile it says you registered just this month and still a Bronze 3.



However, on this forum you have

  • Claimed to have played on Betcoin since 2013
  • Said you were active within the Betcoin community
  • Said you were Gold Status over 6 months ago
  • Called Bullshit on another player for not wanting to share his own screen name
  • Asked me directly what my screen name was
  • Made over 100 posts that make you seem more like a shill than not - all for Betcoin
  • Told several blatant lies to defend Betcoin then acted as if it never happened by ignoring any reference to it (Sound familiar "BetcoinJessica" ?

So whats up with posting on Betcoin from a brand new account?

Here's some evidence, as usual, to back up my claims - starting back in Summer 2014...


Really enjoy playing here and keep up the great work.  I particularly like the sng's especially the Hyper Turbo Heads Up.  There are always a few open and when I sit down the game is filled within 2 minutes.  

I have been playing at Betcoin for awhile and I have seen them continue to improve and work very hard.  I have also been fortunate to place in a wide variety of tournaments with big GTD's.  I am still trying to win my seat into the million dollar GTD, but it has truly been a great experience that continues to get better.  Really appreciate the opportunity to play here guys.  Keep up the good work.  


I have been playing on Betcoin for quite some time and have achieved Gold I status. I really appreciate and enjoy the VIP program and have seen it grow tremendously.  I play at other websites too, but Betcoin is my main website because of the rewards, constant improvements and community feel.  Also, you guys talk about odds straight up, but a Master level at Betcoin would nearly eliminate all house edge throughout the entire website in sports wagering, casino wagering and provide a substantial rakeback for poker play.  I will achieve this and report my findings back.  I am a winning player overall, but I also enjoy the fact that I am building a profile that also has value and they keep rewarding with more perks and bonuses.  

I personally hate to see people waste time, but I guess the same could be said about me responding to you though I don't nearly spend as much time as you.  

What is your goal with all of this?  What is your player name on Betcoin?

Other people have posted about the same issue but you have chosen to ignore  it.

I just checked their website Betcoin.ag and it shows over 300 people online.  What people do you speak of?

Yes, Betcoin is very safe, I have been playing here for two years and have seen people like you make these claims without a username or substantiation only to disappear.  I have never had a problem with Betcoin and have played quite a bit.  The support is superior and they continue to provide even better opportunities everyday for us players.  They would never cheat you out of $4.  This is ridiculously absurd.  

As for darkdays, I really don't read every post, they are too long and in the Betcoin community there is a lot more going on in there with staking, loans, sports talk, poker talk and more. I enjoy the time in there.  


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