[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings

[jimmothy]

Hold on now MPOE - are you really accusing NeoBee of being a scam?

Guy has no shame. MPOE's exchange is one of biggest ongoing scams to date, ripping off huge insane fees from unsuspecting customers.  

the fact that anyone buys into that pathetic charade is why it is allowed to exist

The fact that you get 10btc for recruiting an idiot to pay 30btc registration fees is what allows it to exist.

[theMiracle]

Get back to discussing *this* "pathetic charade."  Let's stay on topic plox

Suggested theme:  "What happened to the pump?  Did vandals really break the handle?"

[NanoAkron]

Get back to discussing *this* "pathetic charade."  Let's stay on topic plox

Suggested theme:  "What happened to the pump?  Did vandals really break the handle?"

What on earth do you mean? Anyone who bought during the IPVO is sitting on a 50% profit. Why would we want it 'pumped' when natural growth will bring far greater benefits over the long term.

[plato14]

Get back to discussing *this* "pathetic charade."  Let's stay on topic plox

Suggested theme:  "What happened to the pump?  Did vandals really break the handle?"

Opening day speculation, lots of reddit pumping saw this coming from a mile away.

[Oztwinpeaks]

Get back to discussing *this* "pathetic charade."  Let's stay on topic plox

Suggested theme:  "What happened to the pump?  Did vandals really break the handle?"

Opening day speculation, lots of reddit pumping saw this coming from a mile away.

Indeed, I sold off at the height of that rise, not because I think Neo Bee isn't a great company, but because there was obvious jump in price due to the positive media coverage. I'll buy back in at some point, just not right now. The company itself looks to be doing everything right- it's just going to be a very long road in developing its customer base, and reaching profitability. Those calling it a scam, or even a pump and dump, need to separate what the 'market' is doing from the company itself.

[Neo.op]

Any Idea what this "http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-03-05/its-protocol-stupid-observe-true-value-bitcoin-programmable-money-emerges" is? And if NEOBEE Stocks could be traded on a similar system/way.

Cheers,
SK 

Isn't Protoshares/Bitshares/Mastercoin/Nxt etc doing something similar?

[PetePete]

I personally think the company has a future, I'm a British Cypriot and spent many childhood holidays in Cyprus and even lived in Cyprus for 2 years. Cypriots for one aren't stupid, we're looking at a population with the highest higher education rate in the whole of Europe.

The private university of Nicosia that also has several colleges and other universities (one of which I attended) across the island have a large amount of students from African countries because Cyprus is the closets place Africans can go to for a European education (also note that thier universities and colleges are associated with British universities and offering British qualifications). And it was these very students that were pestering the university to accept Bitcoin. The university has already accepted its first payment for a course and Neo-Bee processed this payment. Were talking about courses that cost thousands of pounds and the 1 or 2% commission fee taking for these courses are going to be a large part of the turn over of Neo-Bee for years to come. As we know Bitcoin is a more stable currency than many African fiat currency and Bitcoin is corruption free as well as a store of value so the proliferation of Bitcoin in Africa is only limited by the governments crackdown on it.

Edit: The Cypriot government has been lobbied by the University of Nicosia and I see no legal problems with Bitcoin in Cyprus

[Stelios]

Any Idea what this "http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-03-05/its-protocol-stupid-observe-true-value-bitcoin-programmable-money-emerges" is? And if NEOBEE Stocks could be traded on a similar system/way.

Cheers,
SK 

Isn't Protoshares/Bitshares/Mastercoin/Nxt etc doing something similar?

The idea sounds grate! I hope it catches up, my question was if there is a way to transfer say Havelock stocks into a system like them. 

[Stelios]

I personally think the company has a future, I'm a British Cypriot and spent many childhood holidays in Cyprus and even lived in Cyprus for 2 years. Cypriots for one aren't stupid, we're looking at a population with the highest higher education rate in the whole of Europe.

The private university of Nicosia that also has several colleges and other universities (one of which I attended) across the island have a large amount of students from African countries because Cyprus is the closets place Africans can go to for a European education (also note that thier universities and colleges are associated with British universities and offering British qualifications). And it was these very students that were pestering the university to accept Bitcoin. The university has already accepted its first payment for a course and Neo-Bee processed this payment. Were talking about courses that cost thousands of pounds and the 1 or 2% commission fee taking for these courses are going to be a large part of the turn over of Neo-Bee for years to come. As we know Bitcoin is a more stable currency than many African fiat currency and Bitcoin is corruption free as well as a store of value so the proliferation of Bitcoin in Africa is only limited by the governments crackdown on it.

Edit: The Cypriot government has been lobbied by the University of Nicosia and I see no legal problems with Bitcoin in Cyprus

Even though I left Cyprus more than 10 years ago, I can validate Petes view.

[Herp]

Any Idea what this "http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-03-05/its-protocol-stupid-observe-true-value-bitcoin-programmable-money-emerges" is? And if NEOBEE Stocks could be traded on a similar system/way.

Cheers,
SK  

Isn't Protoshares/Bitshares/Mastercoin/Nxt etc doing something similar?

The idea sounds grate! I hope it catches up, my question was if there is a way to transfer say Havelock stocks into a system like them.  

Yeah, Mastercoin will be the first to release a decentralized exchange. It will allow other coins, stocks and such to be traded there. http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/01/31/mastercoin-is-launching-a-distributed-exchange-on-march-15/

We could see Neo trading there in decentralized fashion.

[PetePete]

Just realized that I may have exposed part of Neo-Bee's business model. Could be another reason why Neo-Bee are so quiet at the moment. If a Bitcoin business can be so easily started due to low regulatory costs, it would be easy for a competitor to jump into the market. Give them time.

[Skoutz]

I personally think the company has a future, I'm a British Cypriot and spent many childhood holidays in Cyprus and even lived in Cyprus for 2 years. Cypriots for one aren't stupid, we're looking at a population with the highest higher education rate in the whole of Europe.

The private university of Nicosia that also has several colleges and other universities (one of which I attended) across the island have a large amount of students from African countries because Cyprus is the closets place Africans can go to for a European education (also note that thier universities and colleges are associated with British universities and offering British qualifications). And it was these very students that were pestering the university to accept Bitcoin. The university has already accepted its first payment for a course and Neo-Bee processed this payment. Were talking about courses that cost thousands of pounds and the 1 or 2% commission fee taking for these courses are going to be a large part of the turn over of Neo-Bee for years to come. As we know Bitcoin is a more stable currency than many African fiat currency and Bitcoin is corruption free as well as a store of value so the proliferation of Bitcoin in Africa is only limited by the governments crackdown on it.

Edit: The Cypriot government has been lobbied by the University of Nicosia and I see no legal problems with Bitcoin in Cyprus

Even though I left Cyprus more than 10 years ago, I can validate Petes view.

I live in Cyprus and can confirm what it has been said.

The fact that the University of Nicosia is in full support makes the whole society much more comfortable and positive, in spite of all those negative news that are spiralling from around the world.

[Herp]

I personally think the company has a future, I'm a British Cypriot and spent many childhood holidays in Cyprus and even lived in Cyprus for 2 years. Cypriots for one aren't stupid, we're looking at a population with the highest higher education rate in the whole of Europe.

The private university of Nicosia that also has several colleges and other universities (one of which I attended) across the island have a large amount of students from African countries because Cyprus is the closets place Africans can go to for a European education (also note that thier universities and colleges are associated with British universities and offering British qualifications). And it was these very students that were pestering the university to accept Bitcoin. The university has already accepted its first payment for a course and Neo-Bee processed this payment. Were talking about courses that cost thousands of pounds and the 1 or 2% commission fee taking for these courses are going to be a large part of the turn over of Neo-Bee for years to come. As we know Bitcoin is a more stable currency than many African fiat currency and Bitcoin is corruption free as well as a store of value so the proliferation of Bitcoin in Africa is only limited by the governments crackdown on it.

Edit: The Cypriot government has been lobbied by the University of Nicosia and I see no legal problems with Bitcoin in Cyprus

Even though I left Cyprus more than 10 years ago, I can validate Petes view.

I live in Cyprus and can confirm what it has been said.

The fact that the University of Nicosia is in full support makes the whole society much more comfortable and positive, in spite of all those negative news that are spiralling from around the world.

University of Cyprus CFO said on Keiser Report they are working on opening the first Bitcoin stock exchange in the world (like the NY stock exchange or NASDAQ) to turn Cyprus into a world Bitcoin financial hub. Any connection to that?

[PetePete]

Possibly, we can only make inferences.


Also in regards to the decentralization of Bitcoin. The protocol and the public ledger are to some extent centralized because the code is running the show, the code is in charge, in this sense Bitcoin is centralized. And the Bitcoin code itself can be altered. Although I must admit Im not too sure how this alteration can occur for example is Gavin Anderson can make alteration unilaterally or if it involves the major mining pools to co-operate.

[equipoise]

^This type of questions belong to the Beginners & Help board.

[Herp]

Possibly, we can only make inferences.


Also in regards to the decentralization of Bitcoin. The protocol and the public ledger are to some extent centralized because the code is running the show, the code is in charge, in this sense Bitcoin is centralized. And the Bitcoin code itself can be altered. Although I must admit Im not too sure how this alteration can occur for example is Gavin Anderson can make alteration unilaterally or if it involves the major mining pools to co-operate.

Bitcoin code doesn't need to be altered. Mastercoin's decentralized exchange works on top of Bitcoin network.

Think of Bitcoin as 1st layer, followed by decentralized exchange on 2nd layer, followed by 3rd layer containing stocks like Neobee.  

[Skoutz]

I personally think the company has a future, I'm a British Cypriot and spent many childhood holidays in Cyprus and even lived in Cyprus for 2 years. Cypriots for one aren't stupid, we're looking at a population with the highest higher education rate in the whole of Europe.

The private university of Nicosia that also has several colleges and other universities (one of which I attended) across the island have a large amount of students from African countries because Cyprus is the closets place Africans can go to for a European education (also note that thier universities and colleges are associated with British universities and offering British qualifications). And it was these very students that were pestering the university to accept Bitcoin. The university has already accepted its first payment for a course and Neo-Bee processed this payment. Were talking about courses that cost thousands of pounds and the 1 or 2% commission fee taking for these courses are going to be a large part of the turn over of Neo-Bee for years to come. As we know Bitcoin is a more stable currency than many African fiat currency and Bitcoin is corruption free as well as a store of value so the proliferation of Bitcoin in Africa is only limited by the governments crackdown on it.

Edit: The Cypriot government has been lobbied by the University of Nicosia and I see no legal problems with Bitcoin in Cyprus

Even though I left Cyprus more than 10 years ago, I can validate Petes view.

I live in Cyprus and can confirm what it has been said.

The fact that the University of Nicosia is in full support makes the whole society much more comfortable and positive, in spite of all those negative news that are spiralling from around the world.

University of Cyprus CFO said on Keiser Report they are working on opening the first Bitcoin stock exchange in the world (like the NY stock exchange or NASDAQ) to turn Cyprus into a world Bitcoin financial hub. Any connection to that?

I know they are working on it. I attended a conference at the university organised by the ruling political party. The university and the Cyprus stock exchange were very positive about this. Neo officials said thT they will give any assistance needed.

I do not know further details.

[Herp]

I personally think the company has a future, I'm a British Cypriot and spent many childhood holidays in Cyprus and even lived in Cyprus for 2 years. Cypriots for one aren't stupid, we're looking at a population with the highest higher education rate in the whole of Europe.

The private university of Nicosia that also has several colleges and other universities (one of which I attended) across the island have a large amount of students from African countries because Cyprus is the closets place Africans can go to for a European education (also note that thier universities and colleges are associated with British universities and offering British qualifications). And it was these very students that were pestering the university to accept Bitcoin. The university has already accepted its first payment for a course and Neo-Bee processed this payment. Were talking about courses that cost thousands of pounds and the 1 or 2% commission fee taking for these courses are going to be a large part of the turn over of Neo-Bee for years to come. As we know Bitcoin is a more stable currency than many African fiat currency and Bitcoin is corruption free as well as a store of value so the proliferation of Bitcoin in Africa is only limited by the governments crackdown on it.

Edit: The Cypriot government has been lobbied by the University of Nicosia and I see no legal problems with Bitcoin in Cyprus

Even though I left Cyprus more than 10 years ago, I can validate Petes view.

I live in Cyprus and can confirm what it has been said.

The fact that the University of Nicosia is in full support makes the whole society much more comfortable and positive, in spite of all those negative news that are spiralling from around the world.

University of Cyprus CFO said on Keiser Report they are working on opening the first Bitcoin stock exchange in the world (like the NY stock exchange or NASDAQ) to turn Cyprus into a world Bitcoin financial hub. Any connection to that?

I know they are working on it. I attended a conference at the university organised by the ruling political party. The university and the Cyprus stock exchange were very positive about this. Neo officials said thT they will give any assistance needed.

I do not know further details.

Hmm. Interesting. Neo's assistance might prove pretty lucrative for Neo. They will probably choose Neo as a foundation on which to build the infrastructure.

[Skoutz]

The chairman of the stock exchange said they lack knowledge of bitcoin and will welcome any help from Neo and the university.

If they manage to do this, Cyprus and Neo will become the center of the bitcoin world!

Perhaps someone from Neo or the university should enlighten us.

[Fabrizio89]

The chairman of the stock exchange said they lack knowledge of bitcoin and will welcome any help from Neo and the university.

Source?