SolarSilver
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March 26, 2014, 10:06:06 AM |
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They could focus to empty the orders queue without delete the news about the new product.
If they are serious about delivering a new product without pre-orders then there is no need to brag about the new vapourware until they have the units ready to ship out
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trek27
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March 26, 2014, 10:50:10 AM |
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Bitmine seems to have deleted news about the new generation product ..... Not a good sign for nobody. I guess it's not a bad thing if they are focussing on getting their initial product out to those who paid back in September instead of trying to get more pre-orders in Yes, I think is a good sign for the present .... but a bad sign for the future. They could focus to empty the orders queue without delete the news about the new product. The same for the Rigs - recent news disappeared.
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zefir
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March 26, 2014, 12:45:27 PM |
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@ Zefir
are there any news about the rigs. You had a working pcb of the rig, right? Then they produced a 3rd version. Is the production plan stil valid? Do you know anything about the mass production of the desks? Thanks for caring.
I am not part of the management and as such not involved in the daily business. When I knew more and posted it here, people took my feedback and misused it for legal actions against Bitmine, which in the end rendered transparency very expensive. Since I am open by nature and dislike keeping track of what I can disclose and what not, I asked Bitmine to withheld any information from me that is not meant to be shared publicly. With that, effectively my knowledge about delivery and progress status is the same as everyone's else here. Nevertheless, the SW part I am working on is something I can provide - hoping it is informative only and not suited to harm Bitmine even more. The 2nd revision of the CCR board was build around a STM32 uC who acted as a proxy to distribute the SPI traffic from RPi to two 6-chip chains. This was basically done to cascade the processing and shift load from RPi to the uC. The core issue addressed was to ensure RPi can handle the large amount of chips in a CCR system. From operating the CCD we learned that a RPi is sufficient to operate a fully populated CCR; from testing rev2 boards we also learned that the STM32 has its own limitations (like issues when running i2c in parallel with 3 SPI buses) and over-complicates system design for a limited gain. Therefore, the rev3 board abandons the uC approach and instead uses an SPI multiplexer to map the up to 16 chip chains to RPi's SPI bus directly. With that, from the SW side a fully populated CCR consists of 16 6-chip chains - which is way better controllable compared to a STM32 based proxy. I finalized the driver for the new CCR board last week and will push it upstream as soon as I know the productization step went fine. And that is the key point here: I tested the board under lab conditions and it worked as expected (nominal + 20% over-clocking). But operating a single board attached to the PSU with chilled cooling is one thing - stuffing 8 of them into a closed case, fed by a single PSU and operated at arbitrary environmental conditions is a completely different story. I wish I had enough confidence with the results observed to give an estimated shipping date, which most of the users here badly deserve. But I (and also Bitmine management) were tricked often enough to announce products' availability based on working prototypes - and we all know the outcome. HTH
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March 26, 2014, 01:22:29 PM |
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I wish I had enough confidence with the results observed to give an estimated shipping date, which most of the users here badly deserve. But I (and also Bitmine management) were tricked often enough to announce products' availability based on working prototypes - and we all know the outcome.
Indeed. I guess we all learned something here. Whoever you are, client or producer, just don't do preorder if you can't manage the risk factor. I guess that stands for both sides here. Thanks as usual for your insights, Zefir. Any little piece of information is always welcome (and no, we don't all want to sue Bitmine to death).
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masterOfDisaster
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March 26, 2014, 01:35:02 PM |
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Although I'm more than unhappy with the bad communication habits of Bitmine management and the horrible delivery delay, I want to say thank you, zefir, for you are outstanding with your information and communication habits!
...if only Bitmine did learn a bit from you...
I don't think it is too much to ask for regular updates. It's a shame.
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kapanec
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March 26, 2014, 01:47:16 PM |
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I've picked up my desk the last Friday (21.03).
Is this right place of Bitmine AG: Google Maps? I'm just curious the location of the Swiss Silicon Valley
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monsters4r
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March 26, 2014, 02:12:54 PM |
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And what I can do with this link ? Online Schalter Sie befinden sich auf der Einstiegsseite zu den eFormularen von Suisse ePolice. Folgende Formulare können Sie für eine elektronische Übermittlung nutzen: Fahrraddiebstahl Graffiti Kontrollschildverlust und Diebstahl Mofadiebstahl Sachbeschädigungen Sprayereien Gesuch Waffenerwerbsschein Schriftlicher Vertrag Waffen Is better to go to Bitmine in Camorino and , if their answers is not usefull for you , come back to the street , walks 2 minutes and open the door at the near police office. Just follow the yellow line : I know that you have the balls to do it.
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giorgiotheclown
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March 26, 2014, 02:16:11 PM |
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And what I can do with this link ? Online Schalter Sie befinden sich auf der Einstiegsseite zu den eFormularen von Suisse ePolice. Folgende Formulare können Sie für eine elektronische Übermittlung nutzen: Fahrraddiebstahl Graffiti Kontrollschildverlust und Diebstahl Mofadiebstahl Sachbeschädigungen Sprayereien Gesuch Waffenerwerbsschein Schriftlicher Vertrag Waffen Is better to go to Bitmine in Camorino and , if their answers is not usefull for you , come back to the street , walks 2 minutes and open the door at the near police office. Just follow the yellow line : I know that you have the balls to do it. said the big bitmine customer with a 200ghz order, good job big boy... https://suisse-epolice.ch/epolice/de/about-police/polizeipostensuche.htmlhttps://suisse-epolice.ch/epolice/about-suisse-epolice/contact.htmlhere idiot i like help morons like you you said you ignore me, what happens big boy? you wanne me visit today? you was the guy with the big mouth or not? oh no i forgot you are only a big boy behind your keyboard...
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monsters4r
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March 26, 2014, 02:36:38 PM |
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Have you visited a police office or you speak and nothing else ? About your request to visit you I can't find any useful reason to do that. But I understand that when you finish the lessons at school you have a lot of free time and nothing to do.
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Zelek Uther
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March 26, 2014, 10:27:10 PM |
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Zefir, thanks for the detailed technical update on the Rigs. As a Rig customer it helps me a lot to hear of this progress.
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Run a Bitcoin node, support the network.
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giorgiotheclown
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March 27, 2014, 01:11:36 AM |
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bitmine has big cashflow problems, desk preorders startet again. shipping may first week. dont buy from this scammer anything or you loose your money! 2 days after he wrote no more sales before he delivered all other desks, and now we see he needs more money for his expensiv lifestyle! http://bitmine.ch/?product=coincraft-desk-january-batchthe news from 30 january was deleted "production startet" you or your lawyer need screenshots for proofs, no problem giorgio the clown has everything well documentet, see link below http://kryptonews.blogspot.ch/2014/03/was-der-betruger-sonst-noch-zu.htmlalso the post about the authorized reseller disappeared, you or your lawyer need screenshots? no problem giorgio the clown gives you what you need, see link below http://kryptonews.blogspot.ch/2014/03/404-error-page-not-found-ein-neues.htmlif you want buy something from this company, please read first the thread or my blog, giorgio the scammer has a long list of failures and lies this guy is a pathologic laier... never buy something from this company they take your money and pissing in your face! @giorgio the terrible gameover my dear friend, your expensiv lifestyle has here a end, PAYDAY is near my friend. you will pay for everything what you have done, cant wait for the day when you explain the court why you are such a laier and scammer!
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March 27, 2014, 01:24:28 AM |
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bitmine has big cashflow problems, desk preorders startet again. shipping may first week. dont buy from this scammer anything or you loose your money! 2 days after he wrote no more sales before he delivered all other desks, and now we see he needs more money for his expensiv lifestyle! http://bitmine.ch/?product=coincraft-desk-january-batchthe news from 30 january was deleted "production startet" you or your lawyer need screenshots for proofs, no problem giorgio the clown has everything well documentet, see link below http://kryptonews.blogspot.ch/2014/03/was-der-betruger-sonst-noch-zu.htmlalso the post about the authorized reseller disappeared, you or your lawyer need screenshots? no problem giorgio the clown gives you what you need, see link below http://kryptonews.blogspot.ch/2014/03/404-error-page-not-found-ein-neues.htmlif you want buy something from this company, please read first the thread or my blog, giorgio the scammer has a long list of failures and lies this guy is a pathologic laier... never buy something from this company they take your money and pissing in your face! @giorgio the terrible gameover my dear friend, your expensiv lifestyle has here a end, PAYDAY is near my friend. you will pay for everything what you have done, cant wait for the day when you explain the court why you are such a laier and scammer! In Official BITMINE bought only because it is in Switzerland, and reliability, honesty. They have undermined my confidence.. SCAM
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giorgiotheclown
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March 27, 2014, 01:34:51 AM |
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bitmine has big cashflow problems, desk preorders startet again. shipping may first week. dont buy from this scammer anything or you loose your money! 2 days after he wrote no more sales before he delivered all other desks, and now we see he needs more money for his expensiv lifestyle! http://bitmine.ch/?product=coincraft-desk-january-batchthe news from 30 january was deleted "production startet" you or your lawyer need screenshots for proofs, no problem giorgio the clown has everything well documentet, see link below http://kryptonews.blogspot.ch/2014/03/was-der-betruger-sonst-noch-zu.htmlalso the post about the authorized reseller disappeared, you or your lawyer need screenshots? no problem giorgio the clown gives you what you need, see link below http://kryptonews.blogspot.ch/2014/03/404-error-page-not-found-ein-neues.htmlif you want buy something from this company, please read first the thread or my blog, giorgio the scammer has a long list of failures and lies this guy is a pathologic laier... never buy something from this company they take your money and pissing in your face! @giorgio the terrible gameover my dear friend, your expensiv lifestyle has here a end, PAYDAY is near my friend. you will pay for everything what you have done, cant wait for the day when you explain the court why you are such a laier and scammer! In Official BITMINE bought only because it is in Switzerland, and reliability, honesty. They have undermined my confidence.. SCAM he fucked me too, but please dont believe that all people in switzerland are such scammers. thats not true... giorgio is a very special pathologic laier, who needs to be stoped, but he will pay in the near future, everything is well documentet and he will PAY! regrds to russia
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axelutsk
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March 27, 2014, 08:17:23 AM |
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How long to wait for a refund?
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dplusf
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March 27, 2014, 08:20:18 AM |
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@giorgiomassa
UPDATE!!!
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March 27, 2014, 10:51:26 AM Last edit: November 28, 2015, 07:36:13 AM by Pug |
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giorgiomoroder
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March 27, 2014, 11:54:36 AM |
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My October order #26xx (queue 3xx) for a 1 TH/s Desk was delayed from January to "beginning of April."
I also have an order for an AntMiner S2 scheduled for delivery in the beginning of April. Let's see which arrives first.
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jegersmart
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March 27, 2014, 12:27:15 PM |
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Loads of others are doing rigs, why can't bitmine?
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rmb2u
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March 27, 2014, 12:34:38 PM |
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Loads of others are doing rigs, why can't bitmine?
Maybe you can make a rig yourself? ;-)
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