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December 12, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
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Why on minersource.net does it say delivery as Late April? where as black arrow are still saying 24/2/14.

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December 12, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
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Why on minersource.net does it say delivery as Late April? where as black arrow are still saying 24/2/14.

Phil

any no one in any official capacity will say how many they've sold and what batch they are in of you order now. Just a lot of people guessing it is still batch 1, which must be a magical wafer production of unlimited silicon.

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December 12, 2013, 03:09:15 PM
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Why on minersource.net does it say delivery as Late April? where as black arrow are still saying 24/2/14.

Phil

any no one in any official capacity will say how many they've sold and what batch they are in of you order now. Just a lot of people guessing it is still batch 1, which must be a magical wafer production of unlimited silicon.

Well, I asked if my #207X was in Batch 1 and BA on the forum said it was in Batch 1.
Beyond that I dunno.
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December 12, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
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I hate to say it but that late April date would explain a lot of why there are no photos from anyone that show anything with the Prospero name on it,no tape out date,no mock-up of the design even with a dummy board. just some shots of heat sinks on a table and an FPGA board supposedly running a simulation of the Minion.

If that delivery date applies to orders already placed and paid for,then it is very worrisome to skip 2 months ahead. it would suggest to me that things with the Minion are not going
very well as other components should be routine. This could be worse for the X-1 if pushed back to late Apr,you get in May and be happy to get your money back if the diff goes as predicted. imo. I hope I'm wrong as I just sent off a wire  for a X-3 last night Undecided

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December 12, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
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I hate to say it but that late April date would explain a lot of why there are no photos from anyone that show anything with the Prospero name on it,no tape out date,no mock-up of the design even with a dummy board. just some shots of heat sinks on a table and an FPGA board supposedly running a simulation of the Minion.

If that delivery date applies to orders already placed and paid for,then it is very worrisome to skip 2 months ahead. it would suggest to me that things with the Minion are not going
very well as other components should be routine. This could be worse for the X-1 if pushed back to late Apr,you get in May and be happy to get your money back if the diff goes as predicted. imo. I hope I'm wrong as I just sent off a wire  for a X-3 last night Undecided

This April date is news to me. If Minersource is pushing back the date, BA should be too. I have yet to hear from management about pushing back the date, and I'm glad you posted that reply on their forums, since it's a very good question to ask them. There's a whole lot of nothing being shown for all this time in development other than a few heatsinks and a datasheet. Add those facts, plus the fact no one seems to be able to provide this information nor have the time to give it. There are a lot of worried customers out there.
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December 12, 2013, 05:50:32 PM
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was about to order one... til i saw the the ship date is now april?     100ghs in april will be the same as trying to mine with 1 redfury today......


im sick of all this preorder crap....   pay now to fund our research and development.....    any presales should come with shares of a companies stock.... 
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December 12, 2013, 05:53:17 PM
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you probably have a better chance of BFL delivering a Monarch than getting the 100ghs from Black Arrow
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December 12, 2013, 05:54:58 PM
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Where are you guys seeing this?

I am showing:
https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
This product will be available on 24/02/2014
even refreshed a few times.
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December 12, 2013, 05:59:04 PM
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On minersource.net the U.S reseller Bobsag3

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December 12, 2013, 06:01:08 PM
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if it doesn't ship by first week of  March i am going to ask for a refund from ms
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December 12, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
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you probably have a better chance of BFL delivering a Monarch than getting the 100ghs from Black Arrow

I've been considering investing in BA, but with the lack of solid development progress updates, I'm considering going back to KnC, simply for reliability.
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December 12, 2013, 06:11:55 PM
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Guys, Batch 1 is sold out. I guess they have not updated their site yet, but they communicated to me yesterday that Batch 2 was now open, for delivery late april. Any one who paid for an order through me through last night will have made it into Batch 1, All orders starting today are Batch 2. Hope that clears it up.

I do take USD thru the site, just current not enabled due to a bug. (You tried to select "Wire", and the site would just 404).
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December 12, 2013, 06:21:58 PM
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I wish you guys had been a little more reliable and accurate with your information, I could have paid yesterday, but went to go pay today, there is no way I'm waiting til late april to get some units. I was picking up 2 units, for tests, and if things went well I would have stayed with black arrow.... Just lost a customer
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December 12, 2013, 06:24:09 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up Mat,I hope my X-3 will make into batch 1, Ordered through BA on the 10th sent wire in the 11th but still waiting for the status to change.

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December 12, 2013, 06:29:57 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up Mat,I hope my X-3 will make into batch 1, Ordered through BA on the 10th sent wire in the 11th but still waiting for the status to change.

You will be fine. I have more than a few pending wires, all were included in B1. The closed it a little early I think to make sure everyone who was pending/ waiting for payment info will make it in.
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December 12, 2013, 06:41:48 PM
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and I'm still waiting on reply of my orders placed 24/11/13 and 25/11/13

you think these guys are just ignoring my emails and tickets.  great bunch  Roll Eyes
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December 12, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up Mat,I hope my X-3 will make into batch 1, Ordered through BA on the 10th sent wire in the 11th but still waiting for the status to change.

You will be fine. I have more than a few pending wires, all were included in B1. The closed it a little early I think to make sure everyone who was pending/ waiting for payment info will make it in.

Well, I hope I can get my Order stuff cleared up so I can pay.... uugh... BA?Huh!?!?!?!?!?
I just opened another ticket like 3-4 hours ago.
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December 12, 2013, 06:44:30 PM
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think I better open another myself, sure they answer now  Roll Eyes
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December 12, 2013, 06:48:09 PM
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I wish you guys had been a little more reliable and accurate with your information, I could have paid yesterday, but went to go pay today, there is no way I'm waiting til late april to get some units. I was picking up 2 units, for tests, and if things went well I would have stayed with black arrow.... Just lost a customer

I seem to remember Black Arrow stating they had a production capacity of 20,000 units a month in this topic: http://ecointalk.net/topic/270-estimated-production-capability/

Have they really already sold that many?
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December 12, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
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I wish you guys had been a little more reliable and accurate with your information, I could have paid yesterday, but went to go pay today, there is no way I'm waiting til late april to get some units. I was picking up 2 units, for tests, and if things went well I would have stayed with black arrow.... Just lost a customer

I seem to remember Black Arrow stating they had a production capacity of 20,000 units a month in this topic: http://ecointalk.net/topic/270-estimated-production-capability/

Have they really already sold that many?

Production capacity =/ how many miners they are making. Theres no such thing as unlimited wafers.
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