Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[jimmothy]

X-1 renders are up at BA site

Anyone know if this still includes a built in lcd display? I don't see it in the 3d rendering.

[erk]

X-1 renders are up at BA site

Anyone know if this still includes a built in lcd display? I don't see it in the 3d rendering.

What, are you expecting crude lines of text to be able to recognize an LCD in 2014? I think the logo looks more appropriate.

[jimmothy]

X-1 renders are up at BA site

Anyone know if this still includes a built in lcd display? I don't see it in the 3d rendering.

What, are you expecting crude lines of text to be able to recognize an LCD in 2014? I think the logo looks more appropriate.

Oh is the logo the lcd display? Honestly thought it was just a logo but if it is the display it looks good to me.

[RHA]

The case with plenty of small holes proved at Butterfly Labs to be noisy and ineffective. People achieved great temperature and noise reduction after changing the original fan plates to standard ones made of thick wire:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277000.msg3006186#msg3006186

Silent one (left) and noisy one (right):


If the X-1 is to be silent (like advertised), the case openings should be changed a bit.

[erk]

The case with plenty of small holes proved at Butterfly Labs to be noisy and ineffective. People achieved great temperature and noise reduction after changing the original fan plates to standard ones made of thick wire:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277000.msg3006186#msg3006186

Silent one (left) and noisy one (right):


If the X-1 is to be silent (like advertised), the case openings should be changed a bit.

I agree, I have always found the wire fan grills to work the best. Not as easy as just making lots of little holes in the case, but way more functional.

The noise comes from the increased air velocity and turbulence though the little holes as the airflow tries to keep up with the fans cfm. with all the extra resistance of the grill, which of course it doesn't succeed.

[sirsmokesalot]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

[erk]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

On 1/3/2014 BA posted on their site a news article that said:

Batch 1 closed

Batch 1 has been closed.

All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.

https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list

That was posted 2 days after the cutoff date so it's kind of not fair. If it were me I would warn people in advance of cutoff dates even if only a few days in advance, rather than being retrospective. However I ordered from miniersource.net not BA, and their site clearly said batch 1 at the time, so that was the offer.

[Bicknellski]

The case with plenty of small holes proved at Butterfly Labs to be noisy and ineffective. People achieved great temperature and noise reduction after changing the original fan plates to standard ones made of thick wire:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277000.msg3006186#msg3006186

Silent one (left) and noisy one (right):


If the X-1 is to be silent (like advertised), the case openings should be changed a bit.

It might also be a good idea to get a dust cover for the wire one no?

http://www.amazon.com/140mm-Aluminum-Filter-Grill-Black/dp/B007EVKIXW <--- what about that?

[fivejonnyfive]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

I could be wrong, but I think the site just lists the current description for the item. I'd ask the bobsag, but I think if you ordered before the cutoff of 1/2 you should be on round 1.

[Tyger]

Why is all the ASIC info gone? links to datasheet or the page to buy the ASIC are gone.

[Stedsm]

Why is all the ASIC info gone? links to datasheet or the page to buy the ASIC are gone.

You must be talking about the BA site? The data sheet is still there just click on "show all" in the news section. The option to buy Asics only is likely gone because there are none left to sell until the next batch or they just decided not to sell them in that way.

[CryptoGuy]

Why is all the ASIC info gone? links to datasheet or the page to buy the ASIC are gone.

You must be talking about the BA site? The data sheet is still there just click on "show all" in the news section. The option to buy Asics only is likely gone because there are none left to sell until the next batch or they just decided not to sell them in that way.

Or maybe they're ready to start rolling out the next generation Minion? Probably not, but one could hope.

[Stedsm]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"

WTF? Have I just been shafted?

I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

I could be wrong, but I think the site just lists the current description for the item. I'd ask the bobsag, but I think if you ordered before the cutoff of 1/2 you should be on round 1.

I agree with this.  I had noticed this on my orders as well, orders that were in early December.  They all have the same description of the current item in the store.  I didnt think much of it since that is what I thought was happening.

Not sure what you guys are looking at or where. I just checked my order at the old minersource and looks the same as it always did. No mention of delivery date,batch or round anywhere. That info only appeared on the order page when placing the order not on the finale invoice.

MinerSource.NET - Order #64x

Your order details are shown below.

Order Status: Awaiting Shipment
Order Date: 1st Dec 2013 @ 9:55 PM
Order Total: $xxxx.xx USD
Billing Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Shipping Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Order #64x Contained the Following Items:

[BlackArrow Matt]

Why is all the ASIC info gone? links to datasheet or the page to buy the ASIC are gone.

Because things break sometimes. In this case the datasheet is an index.txt file. I'm going to look into it to get that back up. I'm not sure why the ASIC itself is down. I'll look into an answer for that too.

[fivejonnyfive]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"

WTF? Have I just been shafted?

I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

I could be wrong, but I think the site just lists the current description for the item. I'd ask the bobsag, but I think if you ordered before the cutoff of 1/2 you should be on round 1.

I agree with this.  I had noticed this on my orders as well, orders that were in early December.  They all have the same description of the current item in the store.  I didnt think much of it since that is what I thought was happening.

Not sure what you guys are looking at or where. I just checked my order at the old minersource and looks the same as it always did. No mention of delivery date,batch or round anywhere. That info only appeared on the order page when placing the order not on the finale invoice.

MinerSource.NET - Order #64x

Your order details are shown below.

Order Status: Awaiting Shipment
Order Date: 1st Dec 2013 @ 9:55 PM
Order Total: $xxxx.xx USD
Billing Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Shipping Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Order #64x Contained the Following Items:

This is on the new site - if I log in and look at my order under "Item" it says:

Black Arrow Prospero X-1 (100Gh/s)
## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1, all further orders are available...

I'm pretty sure the table there is just pulling the item description from the regular item page because, well, why wouldn't it?

This is an order from december 26 (putting xmas money to good use  ) so I'm pretty sure it's part of Batch 1 round 2, and the batch 2 notation in the description is just a quirk of the site.

If you're concerned about it I'm sure bobsag can clear it up if you PM or email him, but I wouldn't be worried.

[drewage]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"

WTF? Have I just been shafted?

I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

I could be wrong, but I think the site just lists the current description for the item. I'd ask the bobsag, but I think if you ordered before the cutoff of 1/2 you should be on round 1.

I agree with this.  I had noticed this on my orders as well, orders that were in early December.  They all have the same description of the current item in the store.  I didnt think much of it since that is what I thought was happening.

Not sure what you guys are looking at or where. I just checked my order at the old minersource and looks the same as it always did. No mention of delivery date,batch or round anywhere. That info only appeared on the order page when placing the order not on the finale invoice.

MinerSource.NET - Order #64x

Your order details are shown below.

Order Status: Awaiting Shipment
Order Date: 1st Dec 2013 @ 9:55 PM
Order Total: $xxxx.xx USD
Billing Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Shipping Details
Steve Smith
75 xxxxxxxxxx xxxx.
xxxxxxxxxx, Ontario xxxxxx
Canada
Order #64x Contained the Following Items:

This is on the new site - if I log in and look at my order under "Item" it says:

Black Arrow Prospero X-1 (100Gh/s)
## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1, all further orders are available...

I'm pretty sure the table there is just pulling the item description from the regular item page because, well, why wouldn't it?

This is an order from december 26 (putting xmas money to good use  ) so I'm pretty sure it's part of Batch 1 round 2, and the batch 2 notation in the description is just a quirk of the site.

If you're concerned about it I'm sure bobsag can clear it up if you PM or email him, but I wouldn't be worried.

I have screenshots of the actual purchases I made in December on two separate occasions and they are batch 1 round 2 but when I look at them on the website it shows batch 2 round 1.  I'm not concerned.  As others have said the description is likely being pulled from the current product description and that explains the discrepancy in batch/round numbers.

[sirsmokesalot]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

On 1/3/2014 BA posted on their site a news article that said:

Batch 1 closed

Batch 1 has been closed.

All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.

https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list

That was posted 2 days after the cutoff date so it's kind of not fair. If it were me I would warn people in advance of cutoff dates even if only a few days in advance, rather than being retrospective. However I ordered from miniersource.net not BA, and their site clearly said batch 1 at the time, so that was the offer.

I placed two orders on the site on the first of January. When i was placing my orders minersource had said that they would be part of batch 1 round 2 that ships in March. Then a couple days later the BA website states the thing about batch two and sure enough my orders are now saying they are part of batch 2. It seems some what fraudulent to leave something up saying "orders place today will be part of batch 1 round 2" when orders placed that day were NOT part of batch 1 round 2.

[jimmothy]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

Okay, same thing happened to me. Saying I am a little disappointed is an understatement. I would have considered differently had I know my orders were being placed into batch 2 when I ordered.

On 1/3/2014 BA posted on their site a news article that said:

Batch 1 closed

Batch 1 has been closed.

All orders paid from 1st of January will be dispatched around 1st of May 2014.

https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/index.php?dispatch=news.list

That was posted 2 days after the cutoff date so it's kind of not fair. If it were me I would warn people in advance of cutoff dates even if only a few days in advance, rather than being retrospective. However I ordered from miniersource.net not BA, and their site clearly said batch 1 at the time, so that was the offer.

I placed two orders on the site on the first of January. When i was placing my orders minersource had said that they would be part of batch 1 round 2 that ships in March. Then a couple days later the BA website states the thing about batch two and sure enough my orders are now saying they are part of batch 2. It seems some what fraudulent to leave something up saying "orders place today will be part of batch 1 round 2" when orders placed that day were NOT part of batch 1 round 2.

It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.

[erk]

It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.

Which is of course complete BS as the closing announcement from BA wasn't posted until Jan 3rd.

[jimmothy]

It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.

Which is of course complete BS as the closing announcement from BA wasn't posted until Jan 3rd.

You're right I spoke out of my ass. I thought it was announced on the forums jan1 but it is in fact jan3 so you are entitled to be included in batch 1.