Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[sirsmokesalot]

It seems more likely to me that you saw batch1 closing and took advantage of the fact that minersource had not been notified/updated yet.

Which is of course complete BS as the closing announcement from BA wasn't posted until Jan 3rd.

You're right I spoke out of my ass. I thought it was announced on the forums jan1 but it is in fact jan3 so you are entitled to be included in batch 1.

Well thanks for admitting it 

[spl]

Getting the cloud mining for the May batch seems to be a sure way to lose your money. 

I contacted them a week ago for the March batch and they never replied back....

[NecroBones]

i placed an order on 1-1-2014 for an X1 on minersource.net and after payment confirmation it said "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Round 2 Batch 1"

I just went and had a look a few min ago at my order and now it say "## Delivery Date This is a PRE-ORDER, now on Batch 2 Round 1"


WTF? Have I just been shafted?



I did a screen cap of the original back on 1-1-2014.

What's the significance of  Round 2 Batch 1  vs  Batch 2 Round 1?

This happened to me too. I ordered on Dec 31, but the banks were closed, so I couldn't do the wire transfer until Jan 2, and now it says I'm in Batch 2?

You're right I spoke out of my ass. I thought it was announced on the forums jan1 but it is in fact jan3 so you are entitled to be included in batch 1.

I paid on Jan 2, so does this mean I can be in batch 1 as well?

EDIT: I just spotted this on minersource.net in the description for the X-1, so I think I'm OK if I'm reading this right (emphasis mine):

ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10

[Xian01]

 Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!

 *sigh*

[fivejonnyfive]

Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!

 *sigh*

Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.

[Unacceptable]

Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!

 *sigh*

Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.

Hmm,my BTC orders @ minersource went thru.........all 4 of them 

Now,let see if they have delays too    I'm sure they will,it's all the "rage" nowadays 

Sorry bout your luck Xian    You got your Antminers to keep you company though 

[Lloydie]

Any tapeout news from Black Arrow would be highly appreciated.  Thanks.

[erk]

Any tapeout news from Black Arrow would be highly appreciated.  Thanks.

Try their forum at  ecointalk.net

[Dogeprevails]

ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10

Phew, so my lone X-1 paid on jan 3 will be shipped in march. I panicked when I saw that stuff about being delayed until May and subsequently emailed Matt asking for a cancellation and refund, hopefully he will ignore ithe request now.

[NecroBones]

ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10

Phew, so my lone X-1 paid on jan 3 will be shipped in march. I panicked when I saw that stuff about being delayed until May and subsequently emailed Matt asking for a cancellation and refund, hopefully he will ignore ithe request now.

I'd email him again and clarify. The first time I emailed him (question about payment) he responded very quickly. He didn't reply when I asked about the batch later, but I know he's probably swamped.

[Xian01]

 Tried to order directly through BlackArrow because it seemed the logical thing to do at the time.

 Boy was I wrong.

 25 days making zero effort to resolve a payment, and only 8 hours to cancel an order. They did ironically link me a "how would you rate our service ?" survey to fill out, and I gave them 1/5 stars *rolls eyes*

 Something about this enterprise doesn't seem entirely on the level based on this experience with their customer service.

 Got a bad feeling about Black Arrow

Well, I'm out trying to acquire one of these. Just wrapped up one of the most frustratingly unproductive email chains I've had in a while, about trying to resolve payment for a December 2nd order, and their support effectively told me to get to the back of the line and made some condescending remark about how I was supposed to request new information from them - Something I've been trying to do all along now for the last 25 some-odd days !!!

 *sigh*

Did you try to order from Minersource or from Black Arrow directly?... Black arrow doesn't support orders of individual units - and the US reseller has a better track record than what you indicated - so i'm genuinely curious here.

[drinkmorecoffee]

Black Arrow LTD:

Could we please have an engineering update on the progress of the Minion ASIC? Thank you for your time.

From BA:

" Dear Customers,

 

We have some updates:

 

The Minion:

We have our final specs for the Minion. Based on our library (we can only simulate the TT corner which is 0.85v @ 25C) and the power consumption is 0.6-0.65W/Ghash. We trust that underclocked and underpowered the Minion will achieve under 0.5W/ghash as promised.

 

This is not as good as our first simulations which were based only on Front End but this is where we need to stop. The time does not allow us to continue our effort towards seeking a lower power consumption.

We had to drop the frequency from 1.5Ghz to 1.0Ghz in order to achieve this efficiency. However we've increased the number of cores so the Minion will hash at the speed promised.

We had met all the timings for 1.5Ghz but the efficiency was 0.8W/Ghash and this is not something we could have accepted.

 

The minion driver:

We have also published the minion driver and we're happy to announce that it is steadily mining into cgminer. We've made the driver open source:

 

https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/driver-minion.c

 

Batch 1 closed:

We have closed batch 1. All orders paid in 2014 will be shipped around 1st of May. "

 

THANK YOU for releasing this driver for our review and eventual use! 

This is just the driver for cgminer however - do you have any information on the chip control board itself?  The preliminary datasheet has some good information but it's still lacking quite a bit of the details we'll need to develop our own boards.  When can we expect to see design information for the control board itself?

Again- thanks for the driver!

[zurg]

Sent my Reseller App to Matt...
Crossing my fingers, lol.

[ScaryHash]

So all orders ordered from Jan 1st, 2014 will be shipped around 1st of May...

Wow, difficulty gonna be 5 billion by then....

[TechByPC]

Only 5b? Sounds like a best case scenario... I'd pre-order more if I thought we'd only be at 5b by May.

[sirsmokesalot]

"ALL ORDERS FROM 1/2/14 ON ARE NOW BATCH 2 ALL ORDERS PAID BY 1/3/14 ARE BATCH 1, PART 2, ETA MARCH 10"

Glad to hear that. Now at least I am being told what I want to hear. I just hope they make good on it 

[Kaega]

Yea I was expecting 5 Billion by the end of Feb

lol.  Hardware isn't shipping that quickly.

[arorts]

Hello,

If there's anyone with a Batch 1 spot for Hosted mining orders that don't feel will be able to pay or decided to go instead for actual shipped hardware, please let me know.
I'd like to take your spot in exchange for some BTC fee.

Please PM me to arrange details.

Thanks,
arorts

[Bryzki]

Anyone interested on taking my place on the que first batch of X3 50% paid on december 3, pm me and give me an offer i cannot refuse... Thanks.
Edit:
Thru escrows thanks..

[gmaxwell]

I hope no one minds, but I tweaked the subject to reflect the current prices.

I also notice the website claims "in stock" ... this seems a bit deceptive to me.