Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Stedsm]

I made a post here:
http://ecointalk.net/topic/368-who-is-producing-the-minion/?p=1639
Let's see if we get some info.

Good idea!


Here is another old piece of info(Nov/19) I just came across last night  but never heard anyone mention.



" Hi Gator-hex,

I assisted in the launch of the BA Bullet Run and our co-op holds the rights to the exclusive Group Buy for x-3 Prospero GBs in February. They're not 3rd party boards - its a nearly complete test of the new BA Prospero design being launched in late February.

This allowed them to do a limited size test of their entire design and assembly process sans the Minion chip, while working with bobsag3 to troubleshoot problems and iron out issues (it also allowed our co-op members access to Bullet Run Prosperos 3-4 months ahead of the full launch).

The main difference is that this Bullet Run that's currently hashing uses 55nm Bitfury chips, while the February Prosperos will be using their own 28nm Minion ASIC. Everything I've seen/heard so far is that they still appear to be on track for a late February launch of their Minion Prosperos (in fact, absolutely no promises and don't hold this as holy gospel, but I understand that this is a conservative target date; as there's been too much over promising and underdelivery in this industry, as a whole).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339163.0

[iikun]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

[iikun]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

[Bryzki]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

hi, its 2974,5 USD is left to be paid, 3,114.62usd was the total amount paid, (61.07usd is for the exchange fees and 79 usd is for the shipping cost.)

[clubminer]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

hi, its 2974,5 USD is left to be paid, 3,114.62usd was the total amount paid, (61.07usd is for the exchange fees and 79 usd is for the shipping cost.)

Do you reselling your X-3 ??
Why do it??
Accept Escrow payment??

[TinkerTom]

at this point in time more foundries would only mean more wafers in a given time frame not faster production per wafer would it not? The video says it takes 2 months to make a wafer,so even if they started on Jan3/ they wouldn't be getting chips until March regardless of the number of foundries.

That video is almost 2 years old -- a lot happens in that amount of time, hopefully the process is faster now...?

[MANofthePEOPLE]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

hi, its 2974,5 USD is left to be paid, 3,114.62usd was the total amount paid, (61.07usd is for the exchange fees and 79 usd is for the shipping cost.)

I was going to say, I am not sure how transfer of orders works, but I would probably offer like 2500 to 2750 to buy your order out, and then if BA cannot do a transfer to my account, it will have to sit in escrow until delivery of unit, and if units are not deliverd in Feb, then I get the money back.  Some kind of deal like that for this.

This just doesn't seem like a fair deal at all.. You are getting an early pre-order for the initial payment and take zero risk? I am selling my x-3 and even I would give a better offer than that.

[zurg]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

hi, its 2974,5 USD is left to be paid, 3,114.62usd was the total amount paid, (61.07usd is for the exchange fees and 79 usd is for the shipping cost.)

I was going to say, I am not sure how transfer of orders works, but I would probably offer like 2500 to 2750 to buy your order out, and then if BA cannot do a transfer to my account, it will have to sit in escrow until delivery of unit, and if units are not deliverd in Feb, then I get the money back.  Some kind of deal like that for this.

This just doesn't seem like a fair deal at all.. You are getting an early pre-order for the initial payment and take zero risk? I am selling my x-3 and even I would give a better offer than that.

He ends up paying more than 6k since he only paid 50% up front, and its an early pre-order for a device that as of now, no one knows where in the production process they are.  Many other companies said time and time again they were on track for delivery, and yet, look where most of them are.  I am taking a discount of less than 400 dollars for this purpose.

I would think that if it was such a bad deal, others would be jumping in front of me to bid higher, but we do not seem to have anyone doing that either.

Who says nobody is in front of you?

[Stedsm]

at this point in time more foundries would only mean more wafers in a given time frame not faster production per wafer would it not? The video says it takes 2 months to make a wafer,so even if they started on Jan3/ they wouldn't be getting chips until March regardless of the number of foundries.

That video is almost 2 years old -- a lot happens in that amount of time, hopefully the process is faster now...?

They may have sped things up a bit but not that much,39 days left and no tape out announced which means they haven't even sent the final design to Global yet as far as we know. As far as I know production time in these foundries is booked well in advance,if they missed the deadline the may have to rebook.  

[Bryzki]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

hi, its 2974,5 USD is left to be paid, 3,114.62usd was the total amount paid, (61.07usd is for the exchange fees and 79 usd is for the shipping cost.)

I was going to say, I am not sure how transfer of orders works, but I would probably offer like 2500 to 2750 to buy your order out, and then if BA cannot do a transfer to my account, it will have to sit in escrow until delivery of unit, and if units are not deliverd in Feb, then I get the money back.  Some kind of deal like that for this.

This just doesn't seem like a fair deal at all.. You are getting an early pre-order for the initial payment and take zero risk? I am selling my x-3 and even I would give a better offer than that.

He ends up paying more than 6k since he only paid 50% up front, and its an early pre-order for a device that as of now, no one knows where in the production process they are.  Many other companies said time and time again they were on track for delivery, and yet, look where most of them are.  I am taking a discount of less than 400 dollars for this purpose.

I would think that if it was such a bad deal, others would be jumping in front of me to bid higher, but we do not seem to have anyone doing that either.

Hi, if only i could show you my inbox  i received a few message that your offer was too funny for them by the way the best offer i got so far is 5000usd and the other one is 7btc.

[zurg]

Hi, anyone willing to buy my slot for a Prospero X3 50% was paid..

Order #20xx STATUS: Processed
DATE: 29 Nov 2013, 23:46
PAYMENT METHOD: Bitcoin
SHIPPING METHOD: DHL

Prospero X-3 (2000Ghash/second) Options: Payment option:  50% in advance

just send me a pm.. willing to do this through escrow or with BA just to be sure.. thanks

How much has been paid and how much is there left to be paid?

uh... 

There have been discounts so I am not sure exactly at what price point he got his at, and the 50% payment required a larger sum paid than if all was paid at once I believe.  So it was a very fair question and per his response it did not even sound like he knew how much was left to be paid.

oops, true i forgot about the discounts.  my bad, sorry

hi, its 2974,5 USD is left to be paid, 3,114.62usd was the total amount paid, (61.07usd is for the exchange fees and 79 usd is for the shipping cost.)

I was going to say, I am not sure how transfer of orders works, but I would probably offer like 2500 to 2750 to buy your order out, and then if BA cannot do a transfer to my account, it will have to sit in escrow until delivery of unit, and if units are not deliverd in Feb, then I get the money back.  Some kind of deal like that for this.

This just doesn't seem like a fair deal at all.. You are getting an early pre-order for the initial payment and take zero risk? I am selling my x-3 and even I would give a better offer than that.

He ends up paying more than 6k since he only paid 50% up front, and its an early pre-order for a device that as of now, no one knows where in the production process they are.  Many other companies said time and time again they were on track for delivery, and yet, look where most of them are.  I am taking a discount of less than 400 dollars for this purpose.

I would think that if it was such a bad deal, others would be jumping in front of me to bid higher, but we do not seem to have anyone doing that either.

Hi, if only i could show you my inbox  i received a few message that your offer was too funny for them by the way the best offer i got so far is 5000usd and the other one is 7btc.

Not bad of an offers!
Maybe I should sell my 2 preorders, lmao. Nah!

[whiteEAGLE]

I have ordered and paid one X-1 in September.

There was an option for 15 days testing - will this still happen to my order?

thanks

[wonko]

Wow, I have a super early order if someone wants it shoot me a PM , 1 X-3 and 2 X-1 (ordered in November, looks like you can change the password and shipping address through the website minersource)

[zurg]

I'd just be willing to take over somebody's February X-3


Bryzki, take that deal and RUN!. lol

[RHA]

Guys, can't you cut the lengthy quotes?
If so, use "Reply" button, not the "Quote" one.

[TinkerTom]

Agreed on the long quotes. If you do quote someone, maybe edit down to the pertinent bit?

Also, the sales should really be over in the Marketplace: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=73.0. Check out the auctions there, you'll see a bunch of preorders. Fwiw, I just noticed that 2 Neptunes (first batch) are going for BTC30!

[psyclone]

MY ORDER #3031    processed that i paid in 24 dec is still in the same status!!! Is this a SCAM ? I PAID MORE THAN 6000$ for X-3!

[zurg]

MY ORDER #3031    processed that i paid in 24 dec is still in the same status!!! Is this a SCAM ? I PAID MORE THAN 6000$ for X-3!

Processed = paid.
Nothing to do but wait at this point.

[bobsag3]

MY ORDER #3031    processed that i paid in 24 dec is still in the same status!!! Is this a SCAM ? I PAID MORE THAN 6000$ for X-3!

Processed = paid.
Nothing to do but wait at this point.

This.
I dont how to make that that more clear... fully 25% of my emails and calls are due to that question, cant even imagine BA's number of instances.

[MANofthePEOPLE]

MY ORDER #3031    processed that i paid in 24 dec is still in the same status!!! Is this a SCAM ? I PAID MORE THAN 6000$ for X-3!

Processed = paid.
Nothing to do but wait at this point.

This.
I dont how to make that that more clear... fully 25% of my emails and calls are due to that question, cant even imagine BA's number of instances.

Why not just change it from "processed" to "paid" then? Seems like a fairly easy solution..