Bitburner Fury - Hashrate Protection

[TXSteve]

hopefully burnin gets back in charge now

This is really quite amusing now, we can either have 50% of our funds stolen, or accept a device that will likely never give a ROI, and in fact its actually out of stock! haha

Or you can cancel your order, and get your money back (Paypal if you used that).
And then either go after Burnin for the rest of your money in a small claims court, or wait a little while and let things settle, and see if burnin sells directly at a lower price.

Isn't today the day CryptX loose exclusivity?

[mtbitcoin]

Anyone got lucky with a response from Cryptx for the missing/remaining shipments ?

[mtbitcoin]

Anybody is using minepeon with the bitburner fury???

I was able to get it to run with the correct settings (you have to add the additional options in) but If I recall correctly the voltage settings would not stick so overclocking would be an issue

[scotjam]

UPDATE 16/09/2013

Hashrate protection

These refunds will be given when the tested hashrate of the board is below 64 GH/s:

• 100€ refund for each board

cryptx / burnin

Congratulations for the on-time delivery of a working product (which is not something to be underestimated!!); this cements your reputation for delivery of products on time.

However, please could you provide a refund of €100, or instructions on how to get the hashrate from ~50GH/s to >= 64GH/s asap?

Thanks very much

scotjam

Gents - when will refunds be provided? Sorry to chase, but we all know time is money here...

Thanks

scotjam

 I want to know this too

cryptx, burnin,

Further to my email, I'm sorry that I have to keep harping on about this, but we have still heard nothing. There was no ambiguity here - if the boards didn't perform (> 64GH/s), we are owed a refund. And they didn't perform.

A lot of the posts in this thread are a bit off topic, but this is the hashrate protection thread, and we are due to receive our hashrate protection compensation. We won't just forget about it.

This is not something that takes a lot of time / work to provide. Unlike designing, building and shipping boards, all that is required here is for one of your staff to send refunds of €100 per board refund to each customer who has requested one. I'm not sure how many customers you have, but I suspect it could be completed in a few hours (or maybe a day or so if you have a lot of customers).

Thanks

scotjam

[shapemaker]

This is not something that takes a lot of time / work to provide. Unlike designing, building and shipping boards, all that is required here is for one of your staff to send refunds of €100 per board refund to each customer who has requested one. I'm not sure how many customers you have, but I suspect it could be completed in a few hours (or maybe a day or so if you have a lot of customers).

It should be a relatively quick job, sure. That is, unless the intention was to never actually give any refund. Maybe that was just a ploy to get more sales... "look, we're so sure of the performance, here's a guarantee! buy buy buy!"

[juve4v]

Well, I just wrote and email to Crptx asking for the necessary steps to get the 100 E hasrate protection back.

[solosequenosenada]

UPDATE 16/09/2013

Hashrate protection

These refunds will be given when the tested hashrate of the board is below 64 GH/s:

• 100€ refund for each board

cryptx / burnin

Congratulations for the on-time delivery of a working product (which is not something to be underestimated!!); this cements your reputation for delivery of products on time.

However, please could you provide a refund of €100, or instructions on how to get the hashrate from ~50GH/s to >= 64GH/s asap?

Thanks very much

scotjam

Gents - when will refunds be provided? Sorry to chase, but we all know time is money here...

Thanks

scotjam

 I want to know this too

cryptx, burnin,

Further to my email, I'm sorry that I have to keep harping on about this, but we have still heard nothing. There was no ambiguity here - if the boards didn't perform (> 64GH/s), we are owed a refund. And they didn't perform.

A lot of the posts in this thread are a bit off topic, but this is the hashrate protection thread, and we are due to receive our hashrate protection compensation. We won't just forget about it.

This is not something that takes a lot of time / work to provide. Unlike designing, building and shipping boards, all that is required here is for one of your staff to send refunds of €100 per board refund to each customer who has requested one. I'm not sure how many customers you have, but I suspect it could be completed in a few hours (or maybe a day or so if you have a lot of customers).

Thanks

scotjam

+1 

[RoadStress]

So do we know what are the best settings to use?

[cryptx]

We will post more info about the refund tomorrow. We've been working round the clock with priority to get all boards assembled and shipped. If you've send us an email, please allow some time for us to respond. Thank you.

[RoadStress]

We will post more info about the refund tomorrow. We've been working round the clock with priority to get all boards assembled and shipped. If you've send us an email, please allow some time for us to respond. Thank you.

Finally some words. Thank you too!

[Roy Badami]

This is really quite amusing now, we can either have 50% of our funds stolen, or accept a device that will likely never give a ROI, and in fact its actually out of stock! haha

Or you can cancel your order, and get your money back (Paypal if you used that).
And then either go after Burnin for the rest of your money in a small claims court, or wait a little while and let things settle, and see if burnin sells directly at a lower price.

Isn't today the day CryptX loose exclusivity?

What, you're planning to sue burnin for failing to honour the original terms of Bitburner assembly service (which was that the service was not refundable)?   He really should have just sent boards without chips to all those who failed to send him chips as agreed....  It saddens me that burnin offers more than he is contractually obliged to offer, and all he gets in return is threats of lawsuits...

roy

[FlappySocks]

What, you're planning to sue burnin for failing to honour the original terms of Bitburner assembly service (which was that the service was not refundable)?   He really should have just sent boards without chips to all those who failed to send him chips as agreed....  It saddens me that burnin offers more than he is contractually obliged to offer, and all he gets in return is threats of lawsuits...

roy

How else do I get my 50% back when burnin is not talking to anyone?

[Roy Badami]

What, you're planning to sue burnin for failing to honour the original terms of Bitburner assembly service (which was that the service was not refundable)?   He really should have just sent boards without chips to all those who failed to send him chips as agreed....  It saddens me that burnin offers more than he is contractually obliged to offer, and all he gets in return is threats of lawsuits...

roy

How else do I get my 50% back when burnin is not talking to anyone?

The way I saw it, the 50% refund was a goodwill gesture on the part of burnin, not something you are contractually entitled to.   Anyway, pretty sure burnin posted a while back saying he's lost 20,000 Euros on the Avalon boards so far, and that he has no money to refund right now.... but that he does still intend to refund people....

[FlappySocks]

The way I saw it, the 50% refund was a goodwill gesture on the part of burnin, not something you are contractually entitled to.

Even the cost of shipping & packaging?

   Anyway, pretty sure burnin posted a while back saying he's lost 20,000 Euros on the Avalon boards so far, and that he has no money to refund right now.... but that he does still intend to refund people....

Actually, what he said was we can have 50% now, or ~75% later.  Neither of which have materialised.

So what do I do now?  Nobody is talking.  Do I just forget about it? 

[RoadStress]

The way I saw it, the 50% refund was a goodwill gesture on the part of burnin, not something you are contractually entitled to.

Even the cost of shipping & packaging?

   Anyway, pretty sure burnin posted a while back saying he's lost 20,000 Euros on the Avalon boards so far, and that he has no money to refund right now.... but that he does still intend to refund people....

Actually, what he said was we can have 50% now, or ~75% later.  Neither of which have materialised.

So what do I do now?  Nobody is talking.  Do I just forget about it? 

I think burnin might need a little bit more time for refunds. It seems cryptx hasn't paid him a dime from his overpriced low quality boards: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg3342646#msg3342646

[FlappySocks]

I think burnin might need a little bit more time for refunds. It seems cryptx hasn't paid him a dime from his overpriced low quality boards: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg3342646#msg3342646

Thanks, I had not seen that.

[mikep2012]

So what do I do now?  Nobody is talking.  Do I just forget about it? 

[fpgaminer]

Finally got my order on Monday.  It's all set up and hashing.  Funnily enough, I harvested the TP-Link router from an Avalon unit to give the Pi running my Fury boards a wifi bridge

Pros:

• The board design is sexy.
• All the boards are running solid so far.
• Got a bunch of extra PSUs and Pi's for "free" (leftovers from the burnin coupon).
• The heatsinks are heavy enough to be used as a home defense weapon.
• cgminer is awesome.
• The boards fit together into a tower rig very nicely.  Again, great board design.
• Had a bunch of fun getting them set up.

Cons:

• Delivered middle of October, instead of early October.
• Missing 2 necessary jumpers.
• Missing 4 stand-offs; had to hack one of the fans on.
• None of the boards perform near 64GH/s.  Why cryptx even promised 64GH/s using 16 bitfury is beyond me, let alone 80.  The bitfury chips can't go up to 5GH/s; there's a flaw in their design that prevents it, so 80 GH/s per board is improbable.  64GH/s per board would be about as lucky as finding a four leaf clover.
• Paranoid the USB connectors were going to pop off the entire time I was putting the rig together.
• The through-hole soldering on all of the boards is horrifically bad.  Nasty globs of solder, cold joints, flux residue splattered everywhere, etc.  I cannot fathom even a novice could do this bad a job at soldering.  The SMD work is fine; it's just everything that was hand soldered looks like hell.
• Poor public communication from cryptx.  Not terrible, but not great.

Overall, I'm pretty neutral about the experience.  I knew going in there would be lots of problems, but in my situation the refund was about the same as I was going to see as ROI on these boards so I preferred to get hardware.

[shade88]

Overall, I'm pretty neutral about the experience.  I knew going in there would be lots of problems, but in my situation the refund was about the same as I was going to see as ROI on these boards so I preferred to get hardware.

Correct, it's all about expectation and research before ordering. They're small operation so I expect some delay. I know there is no way the board can reach 64GH/s so ~50GH/s is quite good for me.

Where else can you get ~400GH/s for ~5000 euro on 15th Sept 2013 with Oct delivery?

[Min€r]

Finally got my order on Monday.  It's all set up and hashing.  Funnily enough, I harvested the TP-Link router from an Avalon unit to give the Pi running my Fury boards a wifi bridge

Pros:

• The board design is sexy.
• All the boards are running solid so far.
• Got a bunch of extra PSUs and Pi's for "free" (leftovers from the burnin coupon).
• The heatsinks are heavy enough to be used as a home defense weapon.
• cgminer is awesome.
• The boards fit together into a tower rig very nicely.  Again, great board design.
• Had a bunch of fun getting them set up.

Cons:

• Delivered middle of October, instead of early October.
• Missing 2 necessary jumpers.
• Missing 4 stand-offs; had to hack one of the fans on.
• None of the boards perform near 64GH/s.  Why cryptx even promised 64GH/s using 16 bitfury is beyond me, let alone 80.  The bitfury chips can't go up to 5GH/s; there's a flaw in their design that prevents it, so 80 GH/s per board is improbable.  64GH/s per board would be about as lucky as finding a four leaf clover.
• Paranoid the USB connectors were going to pop off the entire time I was putting the rig together.
• The through-hole soldering on all of the boards is horrifically bad.  Nasty globs of solder, cold joints, flux residue splattered everywhere, etc.  I cannot fathom even a novice could do this bad a job at soldering.  The SMD work is fine; it's just everything that was hand soldered looks like hell.
• Poor public communication from cryptx.  Not terrible, but not great.

Overall, I'm pretty neutral about the experience.  I knew going in there would be lots of problems, but in my situation the refund was about the same as I was going to see as ROI on these boards so I preferred to get hardware.

Thanks - some question left for me now. You got a PSU for the boards??? I had no inside my box - ordered too a stack of 8. Hmmm - strange.