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November 01, 2013, 07:16:01 PM |
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I suppose it's a bit premature - but I wonder what the price of these will be for the next group buy (Beastly?)... [EDIT] assuming OC will go again  Goddamit you're a glutton for punishment    |
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November 01, 2013, 07:17:58 PM |
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I suppose it's a bit premature - but I wonder what the price of these will be for the next group buy (Beastly?)... [EDIT] assuming OC will go again Goddamit you're a glutton for punishment I have developed a Vulcan like calmness since I entered the world of bitcoin and mining hardware |
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TheQuin
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November 01, 2013, 07:33:13 PM |
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November 01, 2013, 07:40:01 PM |
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I suppose it's a bit premature - but I wonder what the price of these will be for the next group buy (Beastly?)... [EDIT] assuming OC will go again Goddamit you're a glutton for punishment I have developed a Vulcan like calmness since I entered the world of bitcoin and mining hardware Live long and prosper. I think we may have to wait until OC despatches his last parcel. Then ask again. |
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November 01, 2013, 08:18:57 PM |
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Beastlymac
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November 02, 2013, 01:00:06 AM |
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I suppose it's a bit premature - but I wonder what the price of these will be for the next group buy (Beastly?)... [EDIT] assuming OC will go again I can say that it currently looks considerably cheaper then any fury devices that are on the market now so I would hold onto your btc and wait for a great deal! |
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guyver
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November 02, 2013, 10:07:55 AM |
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before we all get excited about the second batch.
lets wait for the first batch to arrive.
beastly whats the delay. as they delay has been over 2 weeks and counting?
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November 02, 2013, 10:14:21 AM |
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before we all get excited about the second batch.
lets wait for the first batch to arrive.
beastly whats the delay. as they delay has been over 2 weeks and counting?
No delays we are shipping out daily right now. The rest should ship out Monday or Tuesday next week. |
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TheQuin
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November 02, 2013, 11:04:32 AM |
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before we all get excited about the second batch.
lets wait for the first batch to arrive.
beastly whats the delay. as they delay has been over 2 weeks and counting?
No delays we are shipping out daily right now. The rest should ship out Monday or Tuesday next week. To be fair you said last week that some had shipped Fri 22nd, and the rest would ship on Tue 29th so this is another week delay. Can you say how many are in the first shipment? |
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November 02, 2013, 11:37:26 AM |
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before we all get excited about the second batch.
lets wait for the first batch to arrive.
beastly whats the delay. as they delay has been over 2 weeks and counting?
No delays we are shipping out daily right now. The rest should ship out Monday or Tuesday next week. To be fair you said last week that some had shipped Fri 22nd, and the rest would ship on Tue 29th so this is another week delay. Can you say how many are in the first shipment? I can't say, but the rest of outcast order will ship next week. The majority of resellers have received units and we are shipping them out the day they are manufactured. |
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Zammo
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November 02, 2013, 09:50:26 PM |
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I can't say, but the rest of outcast order will ship next week. The majority of resellers have received units and we are shipping them out the day they are manufactured.
Surely you know how many units you have shipped? Not even an estimate? 400? maybe 300? Or is the number that you shipped so low, you are not comfortable posting it on the forum? You may have had a few problems with production but you are now 4 weeks behind. When we made our orders, we were promised the ship date would be the 1st week in October... it is now November and still only a tiny fraction have shipped. The compensation offered did not cover the delay your customers have been made to endure. You decided on the level of compensation before you even know exactly how much time you needed to compensate. You were only 2 weeks behind when you announced the 0.05btc... but wait... if you gave any more compensation, you would be out of pocket... so it is far better you customers lose their money instead, right? What have you done to compensate your resellers? What have you done to ease the stress they are under dealing with their frustrated customers? The way you have treated them is a disgrace. You can't even reassure them how many units they can expect to receive in their delivery so they can then in turn reassure their customers that their orders will soon arrive and deal with the other customers that will be asked to wait longer. Outcast for example, has an outstanding reputation and is highly trusted within the community. Sure, the majority people know that the delays are not his fault but there will be some that will hesitate before buying from him again in the future. Your mistakes and false promises will have hurt his business, there is no doubt about that. ROI is a long distant memory now for your customers, a bit of honesty would at least help you retain some credibility within the community. |
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November 02, 2013, 10:19:39 PM |
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I can't say, but the rest of outcast order will ship next week. The majority of resellers have received units and we are shipping them out the day they are manufactured.
Surely you know how many units you have shipped? Not even an estimate? 400? maybe 300? Or is the number that you shipped so low, you are not comfortable posting it on the forum? You may have had a few problems with production but you are now 4 weeks behind. When we made our orders, we were promised the ship date would be the 1st week in October... it is now November and still only a tiny fraction have shipped. The compensation offered did not cover the delay your customers have been made to endure. You decided on the level of compensation before you even know exactly how much time you needed to compensate. You were only 2 weeks behind when you announced the 0.05btc... but wait... if you gave any more compensation, you would be out of pocket... so it is far better you customers lose their money instead, right? What have you done to compensate your resellers? What have you done to ease the stress they are under dealing with their frustrated customers? The way you have treated them is a disgrace. You can't even reassure them how many units they can expect to receive in their delivery so they can then in turn reassure their customers that their orders will soon arrive and deal with the other customers that will be asked to wait longer. Outcast for example, has an outstanding reputation and is highly trusted within the community. Sure, the majority people know that the delays are not his fault but there will be some that will hesitate before buying from him again in the future. Your mistakes and false promises will have hurt his business, there is no doubt about that. ROI is a long distant memory now for your customers, a bit of honesty would at least help you retain some credibility within the community. +1 I have been patient up until now but not being able to tell us how many have been shipped is a very bad sign. Yes production started today. We expect to be shipping to customers Thursday and Friday this week and the rest of the units the following week.
That was 22nd Oct, now you are telling us you still haven't shipped them all. That is a very poor show. |
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November 02, 2013, 10:31:00 PM |
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Jeesh, some of you guys need to chill. Woooosah!  |
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TheQuin
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November 02, 2013, 10:57:07 PM |
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Jeesh, some of you guys need to chill. Woooosah! I'm chilled, I already know I backed the wrong horse here. But something is wrong if they cannot be transparent and tell us how many have shipped. Some of the other group buys have been given that information. We will start shipping next week. Should see at least 250 shipped out. Once pcbs come from China we can produce 400 a day so the rest of the units should be shipped out the following week.
10 days Chinese holiday turns into a month, and now Beastlymac tells us they haven't shipped them all yet. OK if they had said that before, but they falsely reassured us that they were being manufactured at 400 a day and would be shipped as soon as they were made..... about 3 weeks ago. I try to stay chilled, but being BS'd doesn't help. |
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November 02, 2013, 11:18:21 PM |
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It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Beastlymac may not have exact, precise numbers. He is just one person in a group that's collaborating, and I expect most of them are doing it in their spare time. I doubt that they are all in the same country, let alone in an office where he can just go and ask.
Still, the 'shipping next week' on October 14th seems ill informed.
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TheQuin
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November 02, 2013, 11:26:39 PM |
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That is a fair point pete. If when I asked, he had said "I don't know, but I'll try and find out and get back to you." I wouldn't bat an eyelid. When the answer is "I can't say" I get a bad impression.
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November 02, 2013, 11:33:50 PM |
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It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Beastlymac may not have exact, precise numbers. He is just one person in a group that's collaborating, and I expect most of them are doing it in their spare time. I doubt that they are all in the same country, let alone in an office where he can just go and ask.
Still, the 'shipping next week' on October 14th seems ill informed.
Your points are correct. We aren't all in the same country. In regards to numbers I think the fabricator was meant to ship 80 but only sent 50 the rest of the batch will ship Monday and I will provide tracking to outcast when I recieve it. @Zammo I always quoted mid October I never said first week. |
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TheQuin
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November 02, 2013, 11:46:14 PM |
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In regards to numbers I think the fabricator was meant to ship 80 but only sent 50 the rest of the batch will ship Monday and I will provide tracking to outcast when I recieve it.
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November 02, 2013, 11:53:53 PM |
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Beastlymac
I have been quite till now but this just seems like we have been lied to....
Quote from: Beastlymac on October 22, 2013, 07:09:14 AM
Yes production started today. We expect to be shipping to customers Thursday and Friday this week and the rest of the units the following week.
At the time you wrote this you must have known your production limits and how many orders you had.
So no units where shipped out to us as per quote "rest of the units the following week"
50 when this GB had so many is about 10% of the orders and will only fulfill the first 3-4 orders in the GB
When the 0.05BTC compensation was released I thought OK there trying but now, for us in this GB it seems almost an insult.
I believed in you and your time lines. I believed (just) that holidays had not been taken into account.
But NOW I know you have outright lied to us.
All of our GB should have been on its way last week as per your word.
Its not so what is your word worth? The same as BFL? the same as Avalon?
I was told by the fabricator the could produce 400 a day clearly they can't. Short from me buying them new machines I can't do anything about that. So it may have been a lie but it wasn't intentional. Those are the dates I was told and I passed them on. We have shipped 70% off the batch to customers and we expect the rest will all be shipped early next week. I am sorry if you feel I have played you on but I have tried to be open with the information I have been given instead off not commenting on it for 3 weeks. |
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TheQuin
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November 03, 2013, 12:03:00 AM |
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Beastlymac, I'm not trying to break your balls here, but it feels like you could have given us more information as it happened. That is the first mention of fabrication problems. Until now it has all been reassurance that everything was in hand. It does seam that this GB has been stuffed as others have got much larger shipments than the 50 coming here. I do feel let down.
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