Official Thread: AMT

[Flying Hellfish]

LOL. Whatever dude. Enjoy your 0.5J/GH 1.2 TH miner shipping first week of January.
Karma can be a bitch.

what a POS

Clennell gave as good as he got, almost anyone that disagreed with him was a troll and Clennel appeared to be talking down to them.

1.2THs = 1200GHs

The spec-sheet says...
(20GHs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/20GHs = 60 Chips
60 * 7W = 420W

Respectively... On the top-end...
(40Ghs @ 1.0W/GH = 40W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/40GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 40W = 1200W

For AMT to state power consumption as 300W-.. is a lie.

With the above two stated setups... The lower one would operate at less than 300W, but not 300W while at 1.2THs speeds.

(20Ghs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
600GHs/20GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 7W = 210W

This same 30 chips can do 1.2THs, but not at 600W. (40 chips possibly, between the two numbers.)

300W/7W = ~44 chips (low)
which would be 44*20Ghs=880GHs on the low 300W

600W/13.6W = ~44 chips (below nominal)
which would be 44*28GHs=1232GHs (1.2THs) on below nominal About 600W
Again, I assume this LIMIT is due to the PSU ability, and heat-dissipation ability. Not a limit of the chip itself. (If 44 is what is used.)

11 boards of 4 chips = 44
8 boards of 6 chips = 48
6 boards of 8 chips = 48
Or mixed, one with 4  or 6 chips, to even it out. For the 48-chip odd arrangements.

Thus, like I said... like every MFG does... They state perfect-world estimated ranges. 40MPG Hwy - 32MPG City, but it never gets that, ever... Thus 300-600W, and the "max speed" may only be 1.2THs. They never said what the low speed is.

They didn't even confirm that the A1 chip is what is being used. (That is what we assume.)

It isn't a LIE, if no-one has it yet. "Specs subject to change". Even then, it isn't a LIE, it is an error. If that is what they were told, then that is what they repeated, as specs. My video cards say 250W, but I have them running at 135W, and have pushed them over 290W. Yet the specs still say "consumes 250W". Which is not "at the wall".

But I agree that the specs seem under-estimated, possibly. (The other components are all low-power, except the PSU and fans. They run off USB-power, so they have to be low wattage.) Another thing they forget to think about, is European power is 240v, which is half the amps, and more efficient than American power at 120v. That will add 15-25% inefficiency to the PSU alone, even a platinum PSU, which is only rated at 90% efficient at 240V, with an 85% load. (Which, by the way, is a LIE, because PSU's never get that efficient. )

One more month, or two... and we will see the results, in full technicolor detail.

thanks for the explanation isawhim... nonetheless you will not convince that which does not want to be convinced. how does that adage go? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. puppett and many others on this website are not thirsty. they are trolls plain and simple. they bring nothing useful to the table. they pimp there bias and speculation because they are attention whores, nothing more.

How's the water now boys?  Guess some of the senior naysayers might have had some actually normal insight into a situation most of us have already been through and watched a number of fucking times.  Perhaps if the newb had come in this thread as a reasonable person and tried to discuss things instead of all guns blazing he would have met with similar response...  As it was he got what he deserved and what a lot of us already knew, he got SFA, and I don't feel sorry for him one bit at this point.

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[fryarminer]

There are several vendors that are selling from stock, Bitfury and Bitmain to name two good ones.

Bitmain makes a very nice product.

[clenell]

LOL. Whatever dude. Enjoy your 0.5J/GH 1.2 TH miner shipping first week of January.
Karma can be a bitch.

what a POS

Clennell gave as good as he got, almost anyone that disagreed with him was a troll and Clennel appeared to be talking down to them.

1.2THs = 1200GHs

The spec-sheet says...
(20GHs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/20GHs = 60 Chips
60 * 7W = 420W

Respectively... On the top-end...
(40Ghs @ 1.0W/GH = 40W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/40GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 40W = 1200W

For AMT to state power consumption as 300W-.. is a lie.

With the above two stated setups... The lower one would operate at less than 300W, but not 300W while at 1.2THs speeds.

(20Ghs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
600GHs/20GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 7W = 210W

This same 30 chips can do 1.2THs, but not at 600W. (40 chips possibly, between the two numbers.)

300W/7W = ~44 chips (low)
which would be 44*20Ghs=880GHs on the low 300W

600W/13.6W = ~44 chips (below nominal)
which would be 44*28GHs=1232GHs (1.2THs) on below nominal About 600W
Again, I assume this LIMIT is due to the PSU ability, and heat-dissipation ability. Not a limit of the chip itself. (If 44 is what is used.)

11 boards of 4 chips = 44
8 boards of 6 chips = 48
6 boards of 8 chips = 48
Or mixed, one with 4  or 6 chips, to even it out. For the 48-chip odd arrangements.

Thus, like I said... like every MFG does... They state perfect-world estimated ranges. 40MPG Hwy - 32MPG City, but it never gets that, ever... Thus 300-600W, and the "max speed" may only be 1.2THs. They never said what the low speed is.

They didn't even confirm that the A1 chip is what is being used. (That is what we assume.)

It isn't a LIE, if no-one has it yet. "Specs subject to change". Even then, it isn't a LIE, it is an error. If that is what they were told, then that is what they repeated, as specs. My video cards say 250W, but I have them running at 135W, and have pushed them over 290W. Yet the specs still say "consumes 250W". Which is not "at the wall".

But I agree that the specs seem under-estimated, possibly. (The other components are all low-power, except the PSU and fans. They run off USB-power, so they have to be low wattage.) Another thing they forget to think about, is European power is 240v, which is half the amps, and more efficient than American power at 120v. That will add 15-25% inefficiency to the PSU alone, even a platinum PSU, which is only rated at 90% efficient at 240V, with an 85% load. (Which, by the way, is a LIE, because PSU's never get that efficient. )

One more month, or two... and we will see the results, in full technicolor detail.

thanks for the explanation isawhim... nonetheless you will not convince that which does not want to be convinced. how does that adage go? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. puppett and many others on this website are not thirsty. they are trolls plain and simple. they bring nothing useful to the table. they pimp there bias and speculation because they are attention whores, nothing more.

How's the water now boys?  Guess some of the senior naysayers might have had some actually normal insight into a situation most of us have already been through and watched a number of fucking times.  Perhaps if the newb had come in this thread as a reasonable person and tried to discuss things instead of all guns blazing he would have met with similar response...  As it was he got what he deserved and what a lot of us already knew, he got SFA, and I don't feel sorry for him one bit at this point.

you're a fucking moron. late delivery and now you want a cookie for thinking you're some sage? shut up douche bag you look like an idiot.

[Flying Hellfish]

LOL. Whatever dude. Enjoy your 0.5J/GH 1.2 TH miner shipping first week of January.
Karma can be a bitch.

what a POS

Clennell gave as good as he got, almost anyone that disagreed with him was a troll and Clennel appeared to be talking down to them.

1.2THs = 1200GHs

The spec-sheet says...
(20GHs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/20GHs = 60 Chips
60 * 7W = 420W

Respectively... On the top-end...
(40Ghs @ 1.0W/GH = 40W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/40GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 40W = 1200W

For AMT to state power consumption as 300W-.. is a lie.

With the above two stated setups... The lower one would operate at less than 300W, but not 300W while at 1.2THs speeds.

(20Ghs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
600GHs/20GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 7W = 210W

This same 30 chips can do 1.2THs, but not at 600W. (40 chips possibly, between the two numbers.)

300W/7W = ~44 chips (low)
which would be 44*20Ghs=880GHs on the low 300W

600W/13.6W = ~44 chips (below nominal)
which would be 44*28GHs=1232GHs (1.2THs) on below nominal About 600W
Again, I assume this LIMIT is due to the PSU ability, and heat-dissipation ability. Not a limit of the chip itself. (If 44 is what is used.)

11 boards of 4 chips = 44
8 boards of 6 chips = 48
6 boards of 8 chips = 48
Or mixed, one with 4  or 6 chips, to even it out. For the 48-chip odd arrangements.

Thus, like I said... like every MFG does... They state perfect-world estimated ranges. 40MPG Hwy - 32MPG City, but it never gets that, ever... Thus 300-600W, and the "max speed" may only be 1.2THs. They never said what the low speed is.

They didn't even confirm that the A1 chip is what is being used. (That is what we assume.)

It isn't a LIE, if no-one has it yet. "Specs subject to change". Even then, it isn't a LIE, it is an error. If that is what they were told, then that is what they repeated, as specs. My video cards say 250W, but I have them running at 135W, and have pushed them over 290W. Yet the specs still say "consumes 250W". Which is not "at the wall".

But I agree that the specs seem under-estimated, possibly. (The other components are all low-power, except the PSU and fans. They run off USB-power, so they have to be low wattage.) Another thing they forget to think about, is European power is 240v, which is half the amps, and more efficient than American power at 120v. That will add 15-25% inefficiency to the PSU alone, even a platinum PSU, which is only rated at 90% efficient at 240V, with an 85% load. (Which, by the way, is a LIE, because PSU's never get that efficient. )

One more month, or two... and we will see the results, in full technicolor detail.

thanks for the explanation isawhim... nonetheless you will not convince that which does not want to be convinced. how does that adage go? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. puppett and many others on this website are not thirsty. they are trolls plain and simple. they bring nothing useful to the table. they pimp there bias and speculation because they are attention whores, nothing more.

How's the water now boys?  Guess some of the senior naysayers might have had some actually normal insight into a situation most of us have already been through and watched a number of fucking times.  Perhaps if the newb had come in this thread as a reasonable person and tried to discuss things instead of all guns blazing he would have met with similar response...  As it was he got what he deserved and what a lot of us already knew, he got SFA, and I don't feel sorry for him one bit at this point.

your're a fucking moron. late delivery and now you want a cookie for thinking your some sage? shut up douche bag you look like an idiot.

That a boy, you're a champ, a real superstar interwebs keyboard warrior.  How's that first week of Jan tracking number coming bro?

[clenell]

LOL. Whatever dude. Enjoy your 0.5J/GH 1.2 TH miner shipping first week of January.
Karma can be a bitch.

what a POS

Clennell gave as good as he got, almost anyone that disagreed with him was a troll and Clennel appeared to be talking down to them.

1.2THs = 1200GHs

The spec-sheet says...
(20GHs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/20GHs = 60 Chips
60 * 7W = 420W

Respectively... On the top-end...
(40Ghs @ 1.0W/GH = 40W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/40GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 40W = 1200W

For AMT to state power consumption as 300W-.. is a lie.

With the above two stated setups... The lower one would operate at less than 300W, but not 300W while at 1.2THs speeds.

(20Ghs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
600GHs/20GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 7W = 210W

This same 30 chips can do 1.2THs, but not at 600W. (40 chips possibly, between the two numbers.)

300W/7W = ~44 chips (low)
which would be 44*20Ghs=880GHs on the low 300W

600W/13.6W = ~44 chips (below nominal)
which would be 44*28GHs=1232GHs (1.2THs) on below nominal About 600W
Again, I assume this LIMIT is due to the PSU ability, and heat-dissipation ability. Not a limit of the chip itself. (If 44 is what is used.)

11 boards of 4 chips = 44
8 boards of 6 chips = 48
6 boards of 8 chips = 48
Or mixed, one with 4  or 6 chips, to even it out. For the 48-chip odd arrangements.

Thus, like I said... like every MFG does... They state perfect-world estimated ranges. 40MPG Hwy - 32MPG City, but it never gets that, ever... Thus 300-600W, and the "max speed" may only be 1.2THs. They never said what the low speed is.

They didn't even confirm that the A1 chip is what is being used. (That is what we assume.)

It isn't a LIE, if no-one has it yet. "Specs subject to change". Even then, it isn't a LIE, it is an error. If that is what they were told, then that is what they repeated, as specs. My video cards say 250W, but I have them running at 135W, and have pushed them over 290W. Yet the specs still say "consumes 250W". Which is not "at the wall".

But I agree that the specs seem under-estimated, possibly. (The other components are all low-power, except the PSU and fans. They run off USB-power, so they have to be low wattage.) Another thing they forget to think about, is European power is 240v, which is half the amps, and more efficient than American power at 120v. That will add 15-25% inefficiency to the PSU alone, even a platinum PSU, which is only rated at 90% efficient at 240V, with an 85% load. (Which, by the way, is a LIE, because PSU's never get that efficient. )

One more month, or two... and we will see the results, in full technicolor detail.

thanks for the explanation isawhim... nonetheless you will not convince that which does not want to be convinced. how does that adage go? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. puppett and many others on this website are not thirsty. they are trolls plain and simple. they bring nothing useful to the table. they pimp there bias and speculation because they are attention whores, nothing more.

How's the water now boys?  Guess some of the senior naysayers might have had some actually normal insight into a situation most of us have already been through and watched a number of fucking times.  Perhaps if the newb had come in this thread as a reasonable person and tried to discuss things instead of all guns blazing he would have met with similar response...  As it was he got what he deserved and what a lot of us already knew, he got SFA, and I don't feel sorry for him one bit at this point.

your're a fucking moron. late delivery and now you want a cookie for thinking your some sage? shut up douche bag you look like an idiot.

That a boy, you're a champ, a real superstar interwebs keyboard warrior.  How's that first week of Jan tracking number coming bro?

lol, i guess you think you're a genius now. ok son.

[Stan-O]

Howdy-  i only have a few posts, but have been watching form the sidelines since late Nov.

I ordered an 80GH miner on Dec9, order #928.  After a few emails last week and this week, i finally got a response stating "we are currently assembling and testing the 80gh units, and you should be receiving it shortly".  

i know 'shortly' is a vague delivery date, but I was actually happy to get a response.  was beginning to think my money was gone.  

so, it's not the 3-4 delivery as promised at time of purchase, and i'll probably never roi from it, but they are there and doing something, just not responding to most customers.  haha.

pre-order sucks.  horrible way to do business, at least from the customer's perspective. i won't do it again, that's for damn sure.

will post again when it actually gets here.  hoping it is next week, like i was told this morning.

[Flying Hellfish]

LOL. Whatever dude. Enjoy your 0.5J/GH 1.2 TH miner shipping first week of January.
Karma can be a bitch.

what a POS

Clennell gave as good as he got, almost anyone that disagreed with him was a troll and Clennel appeared to be talking down to them.

1.2THs = 1200GHs

The spec-sheet says...
(20GHs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/20GHs = 60 Chips
60 * 7W = 420W

Respectively... On the top-end...
(40Ghs @ 1.0W/GH = 40W) = 1 Chip
1200GHs/40GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 40W = 1200W

For AMT to state power consumption as 300W-.. is a lie.

With the above two stated setups... The lower one would operate at less than 300W, but not 300W while at 1.2THs speeds.

(20Ghs @ 0.35W/GH = 7W) = 1 Chip
600GHs/20GHs = 30 Chips
30 * 7W = 210W

This same 30 chips can do 1.2THs, but not at 600W. (40 chips possibly, between the two numbers.)

300W/7W = ~44 chips (low)
which would be 44*20Ghs=880GHs on the low 300W

600W/13.6W = ~44 chips (below nominal)
which would be 44*28GHs=1232GHs (1.2THs) on below nominal About 600W
Again, I assume this LIMIT is due to the PSU ability, and heat-dissipation ability. Not a limit of the chip itself. (If 44 is what is used.)

11 boards of 4 chips = 44
8 boards of 6 chips = 48
6 boards of 8 chips = 48
Or mixed, one with 4  or 6 chips, to even it out. For the 48-chip odd arrangements.

Thus, like I said... like every MFG does... They state perfect-world estimated ranges. 40MPG Hwy - 32MPG City, but it never gets that, ever... Thus 300-600W, and the "max speed" may only be 1.2THs. They never said what the low speed is.

They didn't even confirm that the A1 chip is what is being used. (That is what we assume.)

It isn't a LIE, if no-one has it yet. "Specs subject to change". Even then, it isn't a LIE, it is an error. If that is what they were told, then that is what they repeated, as specs. My video cards say 250W, but I have them running at 135W, and have pushed them over 290W. Yet the specs still say "consumes 250W". Which is not "at the wall".

But I agree that the specs seem under-estimated, possibly. (The other components are all low-power, except the PSU and fans. They run off USB-power, so they have to be low wattage.) Another thing they forget to think about, is European power is 240v, which is half the amps, and more efficient than American power at 120v. That will add 15-25% inefficiency to the PSU alone, even a platinum PSU, which is only rated at 90% efficient at 240V, with an 85% load. (Which, by the way, is a LIE, because PSU's never get that efficient. )

One more month, or two... and we will see the results, in full technicolor detail.

thanks for the explanation isawhim... nonetheless you will not convince that which does not want to be convinced. how does that adage go? you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. puppett and many others on this website are not thirsty. they are trolls plain and simple. they bring nothing useful to the table. they pimp there bias and speculation because they are attention whores, nothing more.

How's the water now boys?  Guess some of the senior naysayers might have had some actually normal insight into a situation most of us have already been through and watched a number of fucking times.  Perhaps if the newb had come in this thread as a reasonable person and tried to discuss things instead of all guns blazing he would have met with similar response...  As it was he got what he deserved and what a lot of us already knew, he got SFA, and I don't feel sorry for him one bit at this point.

your're a fucking moron. late delivery and now you want a cookie for thinking your some sage? shut up douche bag you look like an idiot.

That a boy, you're a champ, a real superstar interwebs keyboard warrior.  How's that first week of Jan tracking number coming bro?

lol, i guess you think you're a genius now. ok son.

Now how does that old adage go? Oh yes you can lead a horse to water...  guess you're still not thirsty eh?  Guess the AMT kool aid aint cutting it!

[Swimmer63]

Been away from this thread for a while.  But I see I have not missed much.
Same slanders, different posters.

[clenell]

same trolls different week. these are low life POS's who get some weird satisfaction in others perceived misfortune. welcome to the internet.

[Khanduras]

same trolls different week. these are low life POS's who get some weird satisfaction in others perceived misfortune. welcome to the internet.

You were one of them before, blindly fighting on their side. Now you're against people who are saying things are checking out. Make up your mind, will you? You can't play the fence.

In other news, this pointless bickering is exactly that. Pointless. AMT is shipping devices. Several people, myself included, went from bitching about their orders not being fulfilled, to happily mining away. It doesn't matter what boards they use. It doesn't matter if they, like every company before them, accidentally misrepresented realistic power consumption values. The devices are here. They work. AMT is not a scam, though their business ethics may be a bit on the wonky side.

Conversation over.

[Biomech]

same trolls different week. these are low life POS's who get some weird satisfaction in others perceived misfortune. welcome to the internet.

clennel, you're a hard man to like. I recommend a spliff.

[clenell]

same trolls different week. these are low life POS's who get some weird satisfaction in others perceived misfortune. welcome to the internet.

You were one of them before, blindly fighting on their side. Now you're against people who are saying things are checking out. Make up your mind, will you? You can't play the fence.

In other news, this pointless bickering is exactly that. Pointless. AMT is shipping devices. Several people, myself included, went from bitching about their orders not being fulfilled, to happily mining away. It doesn't matter what boards they use. It doesn't matter if they, like every company before them, accidentally misrepresented realistic power consumption values. The devices are here. They work. AMT is not a scam, though their business ethics may be a bit on the wonky side.

Conversation over.

that's not how i see it.

[Biomech]

Khanduras, I got some setup questions for you once I get home, if you don't mind. Doing much from my phone is pointless.

[Khanduras]

Khanduras, I got some setup questions for you once I get home, if you don't mind. Doing much from my phone is pointless.

Don't mind at all. Shoot me a PM when you get some time. I'll respond as soon as I can.

[russellthies]

Ok, I've read a lot of things about AMT on this forum, mostly negative.  At first is was that they were a scam, which turned out to be false (sorry Puppet).  Now I am reading about their lack of communication and poor customer skills.  I'm not posting to refute these assessments.  But I will say this:  For those that ordered a 1.2 ths miner, I believe you will be more satisfied, in the long run, that those receiving their miners now.

Yes the wait SUCKS, especially when you expect something much sooner.  But in the end, for my own sanity, I force myself to look at the long play.  28nm chips will be viable for a good six months and up to a year.  Everyone that gets a 1.2 miner will more that double their investment (and that's at current pricing).  You can't say that for folks getting their miners now.

The last thing I'll say is that one should look at their investment decision, alone, without comparing it to another investment (mining company) they could have invested in.  Why do I say this?  We make the best decision we can WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AT THE TIME before we invest.  There will always be an investment where we could have done better, but that's with stocks, real estate, cyber money, you name it!

I have a choice.  I can wish I had got my AMT miner in December, made 20k already, and be mad about it, or I can assess what I think I'll make over the next year once I get my miner in February, and ask myself how I'll invest those proceeds.  I choose to keep my sanity and focus on the later.  But I understand the desire of folks to express their great frustration here, in large part probably because of a lot of other things going in their life that's also very frustrating.....but they can't blame AMT for those things because their own decision making brought that about....they just want the windfall (please perform AMT) to make it go away.  

[Syke]

Everyone that gets a 1.2 miner will more that double their investment (and that's at current pricing).

Keep dreaming.

[russellthies]

Everyone that gets a 1.2 miner will more that double their investment (and that's at current pricing).

Keep dreaming.

A 28nm chip operating over a 6 month period to double it's return...a dream?  I guess we just have a very different assessment.  My 65nm chips are still making me $70 a day, two months after getting them, and I have already double my money.  Dreaming?  That's all some ever do, and they live with the result....they have their dreams.....and that's about it.

[Khanduras]

Man, I'm having the worst luck with this thing. Good when I had it, but it was running in the other room while I was working on a programming job, heard a loud-ass pop come from behind me, went to investigate, only to find out... the power supply blew. In grand fashion.

Contacting Jim and asking for a replacement. Or a refund. This thing has been nothing but trouble for me. Was good while it lasted, though. Either way, I'm not very happy.

[Cefalu]

same trolls different week. these are low life POS's who get some weird satisfaction in others perceived misfortune. welcome to the internet.

First -  This thread is my soap opera, as someone said earlier, "...the train-wreck you can't quit watching...."; but the odds that AMT is going to vanish w/ people's cash
are decreasing as time passes. After they made the effort to answer about 8-9 of my questions earlier
 I too began to think they are just poor at managing relationships, that they are going to deliver.  Something, sometime.

Second - ( TROLL != SKEPTIC ) 
Third - ( TROLL != "anyone who disagrees w/ you" )

Fourth - the people who have been labeled 'TROLLS' were attempting to vet AMT so as to minimize the number of naive people who lost money
to a new, unknown, trash-talking company with poor comm skills and questionable claims.
Which is what it looks like when your community asks questions, ideally, the skeptics emerge for the benefit of the community.

There has been NO REASON to trust AMT and a lot of reasons,
both historical to this business and specific to the AMT instance, to distrust them. 

Most of us want them to succeed, but they don't succeed unless their clients are happy. 
All the pointless shit-talking is amazing when we are all on the same side here, ultimately.


Lastly : 
AMT - Once in my life I worked for a shipping company.
 Duct tape is -not- to be used, it splits along the thread lines.
 Use clear, 2"+ packing tape and stretch it along the seams of the boxes as you
seal it so it slightly compresses the seam. And wrap it in a continuous strip around the box.

Then pick the box up and dropkick it across the room.

If the miner did not survive,
->you<- did not pack it properly.

Start over, pack as before, then insert into another, larger box with packing material encapsulating
it on all 6 sides, including the bottom and top. Seal as before, including enough peanuts that, when the
box is compressed, the internal box is under pressure from the external setup.

Then purchase enough insurance on the parcel to cover the cost of a complete loss,
 +overhead for how pissed off your customer will be,
 + plus the time and money it will take you to re-do the whole thing
 + enough to make it all worth your while.
 
The amount may make the miner eligible for high value status within their system,
which may mean it will survive guys like I used to be. 
Guys who run over CRT monitors w/ semi's just to hear them *pop*
This is how it works. Based on the pix posted by biomech, you are lucky if every unit does not show up like Kanduras'.   

[NaranKPatel]

Regarding the case:  What I would like to see (with the 1.2 th/s rig) is a shell that encases the system for shipping, but that can be easily removed when the unit is placed in a safe place for operating.  Once removed the chips are open to the air and a fan can be used to evacuate the warm air from around the rig.  This makes for a happy operating rig.  Forget the fancy shell, as long as it hashes, that's all that matters.

You need a case with well designed flow, intake and exhausting, if its done right with cold feed and hot exhausting, appropriate ducting and dumping outside the case, it can work just fine, but most home's aren't designed for hosting. But if your hosting elsewhere the case can help contain and direct the air volume and flow, but the inside does need a clean design with air cooling in mind if that's whats implemented, there's talk of oil cooling on Bitmine this will very likely require a case to hold it all together. Also its very likely be a lot more expensive of an enclosure and cooling solution.

What? More expensive enclosure and cooling solution? You are aware that oil-cooled builds existed back in the PC days (as if they're over...), and just involve submerging everything in oil, right? Often, a small glass fish tank was used. It isn't expensive at all.

But the oil still needs to be cooled right? More heat sinks and fans are you thinking to do that then? I was referring to potential refrigeration unit?