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March 01, 2018, 04:47:15 PM Last edit: May 12, 2018, 04:21:28 PM by sncc Merited by Vod (10), DarkStar_ (8), dbshck (5), EFS (3), EcuaMobi (2), Tyrantt (2), dillpicklechips (2), LFC_Bitcoin (1), malevolent (1), LoyceV (1), coinlocket$ (1), bitmover (1), elma (1), marlboroza (1), sapta (1), Linuld (1) |
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Update: 2018/05/09The tables below are updated to include the most recent transactions, while the graphs and numbers are kept as the original post. Link to tables
Merit raw data is now available: Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xzSimilar to trust.txt.xz, it'll be updated weekly. It will show only the last 120 days of data; someone else should archive the old ones if you want them. I am especially interested in analyses of this data which could point to sub-communities where the initial sMerit is exhausted and new sources are necessary, and people who might be good merit sources. Edit: Note that for a little while I had user_to and user_from as names, but I decided to change it to IDs.
By using the data, I created a histogram of the distribution of the number of users who sent 1-50 sMerits: https://i.imgur.com/tliiyaHhttps://i.imgur.com/kLJYU5e
Clearly, 1 Merit is the most popular choice, but it is interesting to see that the histogram is not monotonically decreasing. Top 10 amounts of sent merits are as follows: Amount | # of Users | 1 | 26035 | 2 | 4939 | 5 | 2156 | 3 | 1485 | 10 | 866 | 4 | 750 | 6 | 245 | 20 | 216 | 7 | 138 | 50 | 102 |
On the other hand, no one sent 37, 46, 47 Merits, two of which are prime numbers, presumably implying that people un/consciously do not like big prime numbers and prefer good cut-off point.
In total 85524 sMerits have been sent. This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month. The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones. This fact suggests that we need more merit sources and/or more sMerits per source.
We see that there is a peak at the upper limit of 50 Merit, some of which may be abuse of merit. For those who want to check them, I created a clickable table of all transactions more than 40 sMerits. Update: 2018/05/0950 Merit transactions
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March 01, 2018, 04:48:03 PM Last edit: May 09, 2018, 08:39:26 PM by sncc |
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50 Merit transactions (continued)49 Merit48 Merit46 Merit45 Merit44 Merit43 Merit
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sncc (OP)
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March 01, 2018, 04:48:51 PM Last edit: May 09, 2018, 08:42:07 PM by sncc |
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March 01, 2018, 04:54:40 PM Merited by sncc (1), jerry29@ (1) |
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It shows that everyone is preserved about giving merit points. And some of them getting good merit points as they probably making A++ posts. But if you can give us the link of 50 merited posts as you have researched. It will be helpful for us, we will learn from that posts. Thus improving ourselves for the good posts. May be we will be listed in that 50 merited points next time. But in a nutshell its a great research.
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krishnaverma
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March 01, 2018, 05:54:09 PM |
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Posts getting more than 20 merit points from a single member need to be checked. This will involve a lot of work though. First we will have to consider that some of the threads might be exceptional and those merits points are justified for them. Secondly, very few members will be able to understand the content in local sections. Thus, members should observe such posts in their respective local board and report it in threads like : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0.
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March 02, 2018, 01:10:49 AM Last edit: March 02, 2018, 01:28:12 AM by coinlocket$ |
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I was looking for this to check sMerit sellers/sent to alts, is easier to track now as you can see there is no reason at all why some posts are rewarded with 50 point. This one is an example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=166677Received in the last 120 days January 25, 2018, 12:30:50 PM: 43 from thresher for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) January 25, 2018, 12:25:58 PM: 41 from trollercoaster for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=221867Sent in the last 120 days January 25, 2018, 02:15:51 PM: 50 to gruve_p for [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | Segwit activated | Adding Segwit to all our platforms Received in the last 120 days January 25, 2018, 02:17:17 PM: 26 from gruve_p for Re: [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | Segwit activated | Adding Segwit to all our platforms Well with this 3d, we can report a ton of this things. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=990983https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=822485https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=511933proabalbly alts
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treatWy
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March 02, 2018, 01:22:57 AM |
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many. Merit so far is always the issue to the concern participants but not to those who aren't.
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March 02, 2018, 03:18:45 AM |
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Interesting, but please tell me how to get those raw data from the forum. Thank you.
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alisafidel58
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March 02, 2018, 03:41:00 AM |
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Interesting, but please tell me how to get those raw data from the forum. Thank you.
If you just read carefully you can find it on the OP, but since you ask for it rather than looking here you go.
Im pretty sure that a lot people have been downloading that file for the sole purpose of an in depth investigation. Goodluck to the ones investigating.
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F2b
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March 02, 2018, 08:10:13 AM |
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many.
That's the problem: it shouldn't be the case. If people find that suspicious, so why continue to allow it? Why not simply forbid giving more than X Merit at once (X being whatever value you want, but less than 40 or 30)? In the other hand, people find this suspicious mainly because there are very few sMerit in circulation, so people are not supposed to give 50 Merit at once, since it is an incredibly high value for any member. In fact, the people that gived dozens of Merit like that are mainly high-ranked members that were given a lot of sMerit at the beginning ; they didn't know Merit would be so rare so they spent it like it should be: generously. There is currently around 15000 sMerits given to the merit sources each month. Maybe giving 50 Merit to someone would be far less souspicious if the number of Merit given to the Merit sources (that give them to members other than legendaries, obviously) was 20 or 30 times bigger.
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romanovst
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March 02, 2018, 08:15:29 AM |
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many. Merit so far is always the issue to the concern participants but not to those who aren't.
We have to consider a lot of aspects before punishing those members. First is the members who did it one or two days after the merit system might be testing this function. They might not have understood that merits are limited and thus one should not give more than 5 merits per post. Another thing to consider here is that some genuine posts might be deserving. For instance, the official thread regarding merit system received a lot of merits from different members. But it deserves those merits as all members are affected by that decision.
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guschin
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March 02, 2018, 09:34:31 AM |
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many.
That's the problem: it shouldn't be the case. If people find that suspicious, so why continue to allow it? Why not simply forbid giving more than X Merit at once (X being whatever value you want, but less than 40 or 30)? Following can be the reason behind this: 1) Admin wants all members to spend their default merit points before introducing further changes. He may be interested in finding some alt accounts through this merit system. Those members giving 50 merit points for a single post can be easily identified. The particular merit spending can then be analyzed and members involved with merit abuse can be punished. 2) Admin might not be expecting members to make such foolish mistakes. I really sometimes laugh at members doing this even after many such similar abuse cases had been recognized.
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sncc (OP)
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March 02, 2018, 12:47:19 PM |
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It shows that everyone is preserved about giving merit points. And some of them getting good merit points as they probably making A++ posts. But if you can give us the link of 50 merited posts as you have researched. It will be helpful for us, we will learn from that posts. Thus improving ourselves for the good posts. May be we will be listed in that 50 merited points next time. But in a nutshell its a great research.
I wanted to agree with you and to be optimistic about these transactions, but after checking some part of the 50 merited posts listed above, it seems to me that most of them are questionable ones, namely either of 1. would-be exchange between alt accounts 2. transaction at early stage of her/his sMerit history when s/he did not know how merits are rare / how many merits are reasonable to send for each good post 3. merit for very old posts e.g. by satoshi As people get used to the system, I expect at least type 2 transaction should decrease. To draw some lesson for good quality posts, it would be more helpful to look at posts received many merits but not too many, e.g. 20 or 25, which can be easily tractable from the data, as well as posts received small amount of merits from many users, which requires some work with the data to identify. While they should still include the above three types, I presume their percentages are lower than those for 50 merited posts.
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sncc (OP)
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March 03, 2018, 12:53:02 PM Last edit: March 03, 2018, 01:22:59 PM by sncc |
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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users. It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers. To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.
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romanovst
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March 03, 2018, 01:44:54 PM |
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1. would-be exchange between alt accounts 2. transaction at early stage of her/his sMerit history when s/he did not know how merits are rare / how many merits are reasonable to send for each good post 3. merit for very old posts e.g. by satoshi
1. That is about 70-80 % of these cases and should be strictly dealt with. I think those members have already spent their merit points (50 merit points are maximum I guess which one got by default). 2) There can be few of such cases but we need to carefully examine them as well. For instance, observing the login times of both accounts can give some idea whether it was intentional or just for testing the feature on a random account. 3) I do not think any one gave 50 merits points for his posts. If you are talking about those posts getting 50 points in total, that is allowed in my opinion.
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TheQuin
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March 04, 2018, 11:07:12 AM |
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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users. It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers. To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.
Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052556.msg31426338#msg31426338I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot, but it is an obvious giveaway.
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March 04, 2018, 12:21:43 PM |
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This is good data to go for further step, creating standardized high posting. I need to explore further these data to classify standardized posting to sharpen a real high quality posting and the objectivity. If this standard available, at least below can be served : 1. Increasing the objectivity of merit sending 2. Build and increase the accountability and responsibility to send merit 3. Help newbie particularly and also some member to train good and high quality posting, so this is some kind of training and lesson for this forum.
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March 04, 2018, 12:25:46 PM |
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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users. It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers. To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.
Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052556.msg31426338#msg31426338I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot, but it is an obvious giveaway. That is the one important thing to start creating a standard for merit reward so every member will be responsible for their reward to other member. There is a thread for beginning to create a standard posting : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3010719.0.
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TheQuin
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March 04, 2018, 12:34:16 PM |
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That is the one important thing to start creating a standard for merit reward so every member will be responsible for their reward to other member. There is a thread for beginning to create a standard posting : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3010719.0. I think you failed your own criteria here. This is completely off-topic in this thread.
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LoyceV
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March 04, 2018, 12:59:14 PM |
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In total 85524 sMerits have been sent. This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month. The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones. This fact suggests that we need more merit sources and/or more sMerits per source. Although I agree that we need more Merit sources, it can't necessarily be concluded from this. Many users * distributed Merits to their alt-accounts, and this should end when their initial free Merits dry up. * From the Top-merited users, recent merit, many users have red trust for Merit trading (from the first 10: 452: pitipawn, 283: RichDaniel, 251: saulzaents and 151: niknik1966), and many are suspected to have traded Merit (such as Chachacoin17). It's even more suspicious if they stop getting new Merit right after they've reached the rank requirement.
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March 04, 2018, 04:28:32 PM |
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Wow! Nice work, you must be one familiar with Data analysis. I didn't know that it is available for public access. That what I call quality post.
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sncc (OP)
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March 05, 2018, 03:20:38 PM |
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Although I agree that we need more Merit sources, it can't necessarily be concluded from this. Many users * distributed Merits to their alt-accounts, and this should end when their initial free Merits dry up. * From the Top-merited users, recent merit, many users have red trust for Merit trading (from the first 10: 452: pitipawn, 283: RichDaniel, 251: saulzaents and 151: niknik1966), and many are suspected to have traded Merit (such as Chachacoin17). It's even more suspicious if they stop getting new Merit right after they've reached the rank requirement. Yes a certain percentage should be abuses, and I was trying to extract some rule to distinguish them. In addition to focusing on the transaction with precisely necessary amount for rank up, and red trust, the pitipawn's merit history provides another rule; almost all the threads s/he was merited are "(Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)". I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot,
At this moment these rules are checked by human, maybe there is some nice way to code.
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To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.
Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.
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sncc (OP)
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March 21, 2018, 01:47:14 PM |
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To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.
Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.
Right, I guess those who send 50 merits at one time do not care or recognize if they would be marked as a suspicious merit abuser, and those who care it are choosing sufficiently fewer numbers of merits rather than 49, 48 ... 40. I assume a certain percentage of relatively large peaks at 20, 25, 30 in the histogram in the OP correspond to such transactions, and they might have sent like 25 + 25 or 20 + 30 or maybe 20 + 20 to avoid to reach the upper bound of 50. Of course they could stop just sending 20 or 30 if that amount is sufficient for rank up or they try to avoid to be marked as abuses. I think focusing on the 50-merit transactions is the first step, as it is the easiest and most efficient way I presume, after which it would be good to consider more decent analysis to shed light on the relatively large peaks at 20, 25, 30.
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LoyceV
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March 21, 2018, 02:41:13 PM |
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To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time. Cloudflare blocks me from downloading from Bitcointalk through wget, so I can't update my records. I have 174 of them in my records, see this list (human readable format).
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LFC_Bitcoin
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May 10, 2018, 03:52:41 PM |
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To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.
Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.
I would assume that anything higher than 10-15 merits sent by one poster to another in a single transaction looks shady as fuck unless it’s for an iconic post/thread started some time ago. Look around the entire forum, it just doesn’t happen. Pretty much everybody except Merit Sources have shot their sMerit load. So yeah, I’d be extremely suspicious of any scenario in the bolded text above.
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May 12, 2018, 01:35:36 AM |
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To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.
Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.
I guess, Theymos included in those ones, Vod. Just kidding. There are very little qualitied threads/ topics which deserved to receive more than 20 merits, but there are also several threads/ topics worth more than 20 merits (just my opinion). The problem is most of those 50-merit-earnt threads are shitty ones, which are one-line, one-to-ten words, etc Fortunately, most of them have been reported and banned. It is good for the forum. By the way, thanks Theymos for launching the merit system.
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May 12, 2018, 02:42:06 AM |
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Hey guys! So, this is a long lists of the users who sent plenty of merits in one person. I didnt bother to check each and everyone of them, but I know there are those who deserves 50 merits ( but I think that would be in a rare condition ) and some of them are just giving away tons of merits just to rank up a specific account regardless of the senseless mediocre posts ( which is I think is against the forum rules ). Btw, I just want to add this profile on the lists here below : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1915943Please check his earned merits.
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May 12, 2018, 08:28:45 AM |
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As for me - It is a really interesting and attractive thread for people who like numbers, calculation and analyses. Really awesome, curious patterns were noticed and ofc 10 merits is more popular then 8, 9 or 11 due to reasons which everyone knows
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May 12, 2018, 02:10:18 PM |
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As for me - It is a really interesting and attractive thread for people who like numbers, calculation and analyses. Really awesome, curious patterns were noticed and ofc 10 merits is more popular then 8, 9 or 11 due to reasons which everyone knows You’d think that they would at least make an effort to not make it totally obvious by sending 8 or 9 Merit’s & trying to get the 1 or 2 remaining Merit’s from somebody the legitimate way. Idiots.
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sncc (OP)
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May 13, 2018, 10:54:11 PM Last edit: May 19, 2018, 02:20:30 PM by sncc |
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Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.
This is on May 11 so will be included in the next data release, great that you found it before that.
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sncc (OP)
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May 19, 2018, 02:34:15 PM |
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Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.
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May 19, 2018, 02:52:38 PM |
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I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.
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May 19, 2018, 02:56:55 PM |
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I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.
Another possibility is that someone wants to get his account painted red as revenge. This can be done from a useless high rank account that got some merit points to give by default. Whatever is the case, I hope the staff which makes the final decision keep in mind all aspects while making the final decision.
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May 19, 2018, 03:00:13 PM |
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I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.
Totally with your point of view, Jet Cash. Two main factors should be taken into consideration: 1) Excessively high merit points for one thread from single user. 2) Quality of the thread. I don't see reason to judge anyone who received more than 50 merits from someone. There are several topics, threads which are helpful, informative and, of course, worth more than 50 merits. They are invaluable topics/ threads.
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May 19, 2018, 03:09:46 PM |
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I think that merit awarded in the firsts few days can't be considered abuse, most users didn't have a clue it was limited, thought of it to be like Facebook likes and just kept awarding merit left and right for everything. Same for a legendary member getting 40-50 now, what would be the point of it? But a member who has 0 merits from 300 posts and suddenly gets 20,30 or even 50 for a simple two line posts..that's shady. I remember that in the first minutes of the merit system I was reading how Lauda tried to give Luptin negative merit , I tried to do the same to Theymos but he fixed it before I was able to .....
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May 19, 2018, 03:30:08 PM |
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Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.
This is on May 11 so will be included in the next data release, great that you found it before that. Omg, take a look at these posts, this is an obvious purchase of merit. Surprised that they have not yet been punished.
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sncc (OP)
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May 20, 2018, 04:55:26 PM |
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I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.
Another possibility is that someone wants to get his account painted red as revenge. This can be done from a useless high rank account that got some merit points to give by default. Whatever is the case, I hope the staff which makes the final decision keep in mind all aspects while making the final decision. Totally with your point of view, Jet Cash. Two main factors should be taken into consideration: 1) Excessively high merit points for one thread from single user. 2) Quality of the thread.
I don't see reason to judge anyone who received more than 50 merits from someone. There are several topics, threads which are helpful, informative and, of course, worth more than 50 merits. They are invaluable topics/ threads.
As mentioned in the OP, large amount transactions do not necessarily mean that all of them are suspicious, but some of them does seem so. This list provides candidate transactions that require a closer look of each case, and the decision should be made only after that.
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Flyne d Coin Digger
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It's getting in to something.... most likely this person has nothing to do and trying to be hero in some way.. . I hope I had 100 merit to award you for spending your time tracking this person who gives merit to other members, well we have our own hobbies by the way.... life is short my friend why not spend your time earning then go for a tour or vacation to relax rather than monitoring this bunch of people? Well if this make you happy then "fighting!"
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realaccountakira
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Been doing a little digging with this list, and it seems the 50 merits list is a great way to find alt accounts who are abusing both merits and bounties. Here is an example of one such account that has escaped red paint: Chacoin17The said account was given a total of 150 merits ALL on February 9 for spam posts that aren't even in completely proper english. All the 150 merits came from known alt abuser accounts which have already been red painted by ThePharmacist: marcuslongtheend1949chickennadoI've found more of such accounts and i can probably post a separate thread for them but for now I'll let you guys decide if this should be red painted. Going back to the topic, this just further shows how useful merit analysis actually is. Kudos to the original poster.
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tranthidung
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May 21, 2018, 11:38:55 AM |
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Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits. Hi sncc, Firstly, thanks for great topic. Secondly, would you mind giving me explanation why you chose the cutoff at 40 merit points, please. Why not 20, 30, 50, or 100? It is likely a arbitrary cutoff to identify potential merit abusers. Thank you, sncc.
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TryNinja
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May 21, 2018, 12:39:49 PM |
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Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits. Hi sncc, Firstly, thanks for great topic. Secondly, would you mind giving me explanation why you chose the cutoff at 40 merit points, please. Why not 20, 30, 50, or 100? It is likely a arbitrary cutoff to identify potential merit abusers. Thank you, sncc. 40 or more. Check the list again... Also, you can't send 100 merits to something at once. Only 50 per user/per month.
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May 21, 2018, 03:09:01 PM |
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Been doing a little digging with this list, and it seems the 50 merits list is a great way to find alt accounts who are abusing both merits and bounties. Here is an example of one such account that has escaped red paint: Chacoin17The said account was given a total of 150 merits ALL on February 9 for spam posts that aren't even in completely proper english. All the 150 merits came from known alt abuser accounts which have already been red painted by ThePharmacist: marcuslongtheend1949chickennadoI've found more of such accounts and i can probably post a separate thread for them but for now I'll let you guys decide if this should be red painted. Going back to the topic, this just further shows how useful merit analysis actually is. Kudos to the original poster. There was some discussion about this chain, see this thread: Large amount merit transactions https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3693207.0It would be good to see other chains you found in a separate thread. -snip-
Hi sncc, Firstly, thanks for great topic. Secondly, would you mind giving me explanation why you chose the cutoff at 40 merit points, please. Why not 20, 30, 50, or 100? It is likely a arbitrary cutoff to identify potential merit abusers. Thank you, sncc. 40 or more. Check the list again... Also, you can't send 100 merits to something at once. Only 50 per user/per month. TryNinja is right, 50 is the largest number for single transaction. I chose 40 to include the peak at 40 Merits in the figure in the OP. Of course 30 and 25 have larger peaks but the list would be too long.
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