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Update: 2018/05/09

The tables below are updated to include the most recent transactions, while the graphs and numbers are kept as the original post. 

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Merit raw data is now available:

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz

Similar to trust.txt.xz, it'll be updated weekly. It will show only the last 120 days of data; someone else should archive the old ones if you want them.

I am especially interested in analyses of this data which could point to sub-communities where the initial sMerit is exhausted and new sources are necessary, and people who might be good merit sources.

Edit: Note that for a little while I had user_to and user_from as names, but I decided to change it to IDs.



By using the data, I created a histogram of the distribution of the number of users who sent 1-50 sMerits:

https://i.imgur.com/tliiyaH


https://i.imgur.com/kLJYU5e




Clearly, 1 Merit is the most popular choice, but it is interesting to see that the histogram is not monotonically decreasing.
Top 10 amounts of sent merits are as follows:

Amount   # of Users
126035
24939
52156
31485
10866
4750
6245
20216
7138
50102

On the other hand, no one sent 37, 46, 47 Merits, two of which are prime numbers, presumably implying that people un/consciously do not like big prime numbers and prefer good cut-off point.



In total 85524 sMerits have been sent.
This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month.
The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones.
This fact suggests that we need more merit sources and/or more sMerits per source.



We see that there is a peak at the upper limit of 50 Merit, some of which may be abuse of merit.
For those who want to check them, I created a clickable table of all transactions more than 40 sMerits.

Update: 2018/05/09

50 Merit transactions
yyyy/mm/ddhh:mm:ssUser_FromPostUser_To
2018/04/3002:13:51ICOcountdown.com->Rugosa
2018/04/2910:45:38hhk1045->anonymous3x
2018/04/2616:02:35George5->DrCharles
2018/04/2412:44:16chronicsky->sourish
2018/04/2410:43:28bumbacoin->satoshi
2018/04/2314:51:18Jasad->Denies
2018/04/2304:49:31dazedfool->TMAN
2018/04/2004:35:51bitpop->suchmoon
2018/04/2003:46:53HCLivess->Hal
2018/04/1614:29:52Rumhurius->popshot
2018/04/1506:31:10rorschach1->CryptonikaTrade
2018/04/1416:33:59Taxidermista->brianmct
2018/04/1315:35:15boltz->Eclipse2021
2018/04/1214:07:54iTradeChips->JaoBadjap
2018/04/1106:16:57generalizethis->cryptimus prime
2018/04/0909:03:20Claymore->satoshi
2018/04/0808:15:37Cazkys->Nerobasta
2018/04/0615:01:27sardokan->LeGaulois
2018/04/0606:44:27Jumbley->DigiByte
2018/04/0515:44:02jackielove4u->ocminer
2018/04/0416:26:43DaveyJones->unknownids
2018/04/0407:21:02valtin->winterrose
2018/04/0319:04:54goxed->GameKyuubi
2018/03/3117:12:53Hyperjacked->heratys111
2018/03/3108:25:26CryptKeeper->tonych
2018/03/3016:32:42bonosurgut->BigBoozie
2018/03/3010:52:361Referee->ChipMixer
2018/03/3010:49:221Referee->satoshi
2018/03/3008:30:19sardokan->superresistant
2018/03/2815:51:54Southpaw0->zazarb
2018/03/2806:26:44notbatman->monero
2018/03/2709:20:29HCLivess->gawlea
2018/03/2619:10:53Mr.Net->Arysum
2018/03/2522:04:14HostFat->gallisiardi
2018/03/2520:00:02Phore->moonshoot
2018/03/2412:34:54CrackedLogic->btcnerdie
2018/03/2310:39:42ekoja->miramare
2018/03/2222:55:28Rumhurius->LimxDev
2018/03/2118:27:36Rumhurius->bytemaster
2018/03/2107:22:18mrhelpful->allinvain
2018/03/1912:59:31pinkpanther03->Wingzcrypto2018
2018/03/1910:59:43cryptodevil->suchmoon
2018/03/1910:47:53cryptodevil->spartak_t
2018/03/1814:32:30finist4x->aliborn
2018/03/1602:53:47BitcoinEXpress->Vod
2018/03/1518:14:54gordonhill->Kreds
2018/03/1514:33:39publicjud->proexcept
2018/03/1505:49:13Kousei23->plucking23
2018/03/1320:18:17Beachguy->whoismoses
2018/03/1314:15:12Cassius->vizsafe
2018/03/1207:06:03bitkilo->MemoryDealers
2018/03/1016:30:07biodieselchris->cheddur_announce
2018/03/0916:51:32spartak_t->batesresearch
2018/03/0912:09:54batesresearch->spartak_t
2018/03/0714:20:44PistonHonda->Kreds
2018/03/0714:19:19PistonHonda->mistercashking
2018/03/0619:18:56negeroy->satoshi
2018/03/0617:00:50CryptoCanary->crackfoo
2018/03/0606:47:38nrigo->gawlea
2018/03/0512:24:14Seccour->laszlo
2018/03/0411:12:07Greaves7->ATMcoin
2018/03/0319:31:31SparkyU->BarkingHawk
2018/03/0316:45:53HCLivess->baritus
2018/03/0316:45:38HCLivess->Tranz
2018/03/0310:05:48kliown->babicena14
2018/03/0307:40:46TheNewAnon135246->romanornr
2018/03/0223:12:52ancientcoins->ATMcoin
2018/03/0218:22:35BernieCoin->crackfoo
2018/02/2817:37:03taxmanmt5->pokerowned
2018/02/2809:40:24Wendigo->NLNico
2018/02/2721:20:33Claymore->satoshi
2018/02/2719:01:32Wendigo->ibminer
2018/02/2707:33:56BioMike->brobbel
2018/02/2700:30:25casinobitco->SyGambler
2018/02/2614:43:31CryptInvest->mthcl
2018/02/2523:44:52NoctisConnor->DrGuns4Hands
2018/02/2417:47:23Southpaw0->zazarb
2018/02/2311:30:14spartacusrex->monsterer2
2018/02/2306:46:59truimpheriues->TheBobyHunter
2018/02/2303:00:14peteycamey->Rhego
2018/02/2205:50:41superscommessebitcoin->Patron92
2018/02/2101:12:39bitcasino.io->blue_way
2018/02/2012:27:55flyer88->q(O_O)p
2018/02/1901:03:11marcus_of_augustus->infofront
2018/02/1811:55:12MICRO->aleksej996
2018/02/1811:37:58hurricandave->sidehack
2018/02/1721:38:55mindrust->Royse777
2018/02/1619:52:18BayAreaCoins->dooglus
2018/02/1613:50:44hrbt->xiao2017
2018/02/1522:25:071369->TrollCoins
2018/02/1522:23:491369->AllarDallar
2018/02/1522:23:171369->youngwebs
2018/02/1521:15:19hrbt->masstahcoiner
2018/02/1518:01:31talatk->pitipawn
2018/02/1512:39:25Alondre->Evil-Knievel
2018/02/1512:26:38schnF6tzel->Evil-Knievel
2018/02/1510:00:49Gizfreak->EverGreenCoin
2018/02/1502:22:26Decoded->JetCash
2018/02/1420:39:37narousberg->D3Pool
2018/02/1416:33:51hrbt->cryptoworld2017
2018/02/1316:05:06AbraxasCcs->analema
2018/02/1300:49:17oblox->FrozenChaos
2018/02/1207:56:30goraset->the_doctor
2018/02/1118:29:21oblox->Herbert2020
2018/02/1113:41:07Bittzy78->kaptkrunch
2018/02/1015:14:57naypalm->GameKyuubi
2018/02/0919:23:07chickenado->Chachacoin17
2018/02/0918:59:34thend1949->Chachacoin17
2018/02/0911:41:41marcuslong->Chachacoin17
2018/02/0911:10:45CasinoBetGame->TheBobyHunter
2018/02/0821:48:01s1lverbox->Arczimedes
2018/02/0820:34:13Jasad->fine99
2018/02/0802:20:58Chase->DNotes
2018/02/0723:59:58e1ghtSpace->chrysophylax
2018/02/0716:52:11oxilore->negeroy
2018/02/0714:46:30RHavar->devans
2018/02/0706:52:01sonerbo->whisee
2018/02/0701:05:40DNotes->Dyna
2018/02/0616:55:22MICRO->EnF0Rc3r
2018/02/0613:56:43Lyricz->scaramanga1337
2018/02/0611:13:26pinkmanfreespirit->hkdfgkdf
2018/02/0514:49:29Jonesd->romanornr
2018/02/0513:51:53TwinWinNerD->BitPanda.com
2018/02/0505:45:52Twinscoin2017->Ronaldcoin2017
2018/02/0501:51:24shapeshiftscam->RichDaniel
2018/02/0423:02:59bitkilo->zazarb
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50 Merit transactions (continued)
yyyy/mm/ddhh:mm:ssUser_FromPostUser_To
2018/02/0418:41:38RHavar->DarkDays
2018/02/0312:02:26carlisle1->Kemarit
2018/02/0310:34:59Morguk->Payne976
2018/02/0309:26:48Bittzy78->_church
2018/02/0223:47:21antantti->pallas
2018/02/0223:31:00oscar2000->Becassine
2018/02/0220:01:42farsky->poptop
2018/02/0216:09:40farsky->Rogerdale
2018/02/0215:18:33ivanst776->santino11
2018/02/0209:47:55corather->VonSpass
2018/02/0208:32:23corather->lfloorwalker
2018/02/0114:18:39PistonHonda->Mrpumperitis
2018/02/0107:05:40Arget07->Komrad880
2018/01/3123:23:30savioroshan->roccstar
2018/01/3120:20:24Kda2018->satoshi
2018/01/3118:54:33Seccour->GameKyuubi
2018/01/3118:11:09theymos->marlboroza
2018/01/3115:23:49soniclord->nullius
2018/01/3113:51:50soniclord->Lauda
2018/01/3113:50:16alevlaslo->farsky
2018/01/3113:40:23KenChanYu->Twinscoin2017
2018/01/3113:30:50Gaff->Twinscoin2017
2018/01/3111:51:21vavan1974muz->alexbond
2018/01/3109:28:36Webcelerator.->alexbond
2018/01/3108:48:57Coin++->CarlOrff
2018/01/3022:18:12RoomBot->truckinusa44
2018/01/3017:10:19vokain->LeGaulois
2018/01/3011:24:54ZenFr->Coin++
2018/01/3011:19:06ZenFr->CarlOrff
2018/01/2919:56:59iluvbitcoins->BiPolarBob
2018/01/2915:31:43QuestionAuthority->pandukelana2712
2018/01/2915:12:24iwantapony->shorena
2018/01/2909:42:44CryptoCanary->EverGreenCoin
2018/01/2813:05:31raetsch->gawlea
2018/01/2812:39:33Bittzy78->gawlea
2018/01/2809:56:34shorena->phantastisch
2018/01/2809:55:20shorena->Tomatocage
2018/01/2809:54:58shorena->mprep
2018/01/2808:31:23mekarsari->maldini
2018/01/2722:57:01RHavar->Dexon
2018/01/2720:06:26Cacaparg->GR92
2018/01/2718:27:56Rumhurius->striker73342.0
2018/01/2716:57:18FrictionlessCoin->Woshib
2018/01/2713:58:29sgbett->dinofelis
2018/01/2712:41:21DIA7->cho99
2018/01/2703:53:14peloso->Blazed
2018/01/2703:49:32peloso->465017
2018/01/2703:39:00peloso->theymos
2018/01/2621:12:44negeroy->satoshi
2018/01/2620:49:45dvd-rw->amaclin1
2018/01/2620:35:22dvd-rw->poptop
2018/01/2619:54:16sofu->theymos
2018/01/2616:46:09dvd-rw->Co1n
2018/01/2615:46:57jooj->wnj4
2018/01/2613:10:56wnj4->jooj
2018/01/2609:41:11LongAndShort->Marec4
2018/01/2609:40:43LongAndShort->casinocoin
2018/01/2609:06:57Scorpion->theymos
2018/01/2607:50:24Come-from-Beyond->Jacky_Chan
2018/01/2607:07:37ezeminer->TMAN
2018/01/2603:58:42cakravothy->TheBobyHunter
2018/01/2600:25:33otrkid70->theymos
2018/01/2523:26:06antantti->Epsylon3
2018/01/2521:50:56Cean->Leonbtc
2018/01/2521:04:38hoop->wnj4
2018/01/2521:02:40hoop->jooj
2018/01/2520:38:26Hawker->Jordan23
2018/01/2520:37:42Hawker->wpt1wpt1
2018/01/2520:36:50Hawker->mmm01
2018/01/2520:05:02cacucacok91->BitmarkInvest
2018/01/2519:35:59alani123->satoshi
2018/01/2517:00:35eeX->crex24
2018/01/2516:24:14dimao->Visesrion
2018/01/2516:03:37tbearhere->crypto_zoidberg
2018/01/2515:58:00chixka000->alexberezov
2018/01/2515:39:16NetFreak199->alexberezov
2018/01/2514:15:51jackielove4u->gruve_p
2018/01/2514:00:16soniclord->Chetty
2018/01/2513:44:33x4->Koger
2018/01/2513:37:56Easy2Mine->nopedope89
2018/01/2512:23:42trollercoaster->SpringfieldM1A
2018/01/2511:26:20tbearhere->b4h4mu7
2018/01/2510:58:15killyou72->Lutpin
2018/01/2508:03:39blo8i->alexberezov
2018/01/2506:29:37HabBear->GameKyuubi
2018/01/2505:31:28premium_domainer->levyashin
2018/01/2501:45:26Kiritsugu->ethan_nx
2018/01/2501:38:00albert11->CornHub
2018/01/2501:02:47minerjones->theymos
2018/01/2423:38:35minifrij->Lutpin
2018/01/2422:57:52klaaas->Lauda
2018/01/2422:52:15LesbianCow->satoshi
2018/01/2422:37:10DahmanEl_Harrachi->Lutpin

49 Merit
2018/02/1809:41:41marlboroza->Joel_Jantsen
2018/02/0720:00:23Bitstar_coin->Battlestar_Coin
2018/01/2422:40:10LesbianCow->Lutpin
2018/01/2422:39:51Hhampuz->Lutpin

48 Merit
2018/04/2303:21:53dazedfool->killyou73
2018/03/2109:58:32allowance1219->colacat1111
2018/01/2802:55:37DOGEbubble->swolf

46 Merit
2018/04/2106:38:51snowfu199->moonriver

45 Merit
2018/05/0116:31:42alexberezov->identifyuser
2018/02/2417:47:00frankenmint->Dr.Mann
2018/02/1820:29:55valley365->pitipawn
2018/02/1416:09:49zdeni82->vanessa81
2018/02/0501:52:34casinobonusgiveaway->RichDaniel
2018/02/0401:19:30c_lab->phantastisch
2018/01/2809:35:10devollito->yua_na
2018/01/2517:28:24rus23kav->HypNoSE
2018/01/2422:31:18aTriz->Lauda

44 Merit
2018/04/0907:49:57Bitze->mole0815
2018/02/2203:08:55whisee->atileture
2018/02/1518:57:01talatk->Bitcocoin
2018/02/0308:30:32Bittzy78->zincra

43 Merit
2018/04/0513:12:15Marec4->Seapork
2018/01/2512:30:50thresher->Bitcoiner12
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42 Merit
yyyy/mm/ddhh:mm:ssUser_FromPostUser_To
2018/04/0612:51:50gamerWOT->DronBudloS
2018/04/0201:15:15roslinpl->satoshi
2018/04/0200:59:43roslinpl->theymos
2018/02/2607:27:36SimpeleSimpele->TheBobyHunter
2018/02/1521:16:31masstahcoiner->geoneojapan
2018/01/2723:55:18ahoenk->devollito

41 Merit
2018/04/1912:09:16Vlad2Vlad->LimxDev
2018/01/2809:37:04yua_na->devollito
2018/01/2718:32:58striker73342.0->Rumhurius
2018/01/2515:48:20Embat->dimao
2018/01/2512:25:58trollercoaster->Bitcoiner12

40 Merit
2018/05/0207:15:42bitebits->Last of the V8s
2018/04/2106:33:25seek4dream->snowfu199
2018/04/1420:34:26winterrose->valtin
2018/04/1315:37:15boltz->Rabinovitch8
2018/03/2103:45:00102339->allowance1219
2018/03/1617:20:49ronin07->The_ Flash
2018/03/1414:26:21frankkkkkkk->fengxia
2018/02/2204:44:14ifightformerkel->Patron92
2018/02/1505:35:29Twinscoin2017->chikading2016
2018/02/1315:04:13wheelz1200->romanornr
2018/02/0923:59:43nullius->gmaxwell
2018/02/0912:47:24mstfprcn->saulzaents
2018/02/0821:58:18Trade_BTC->Kreds
2018/02/0705:01:05BTCMILLIONAIRE->Vod
2018/02/0118:00:16xyz->moodledidoodledi
2018/02/0117:59:20xyz->WorldCoiner
2018/01/2919:26:35jpoker272727->anjho.ace
2018/01/2910:07:22JohnUser->Laeltin
2018/01/2517:29:01rus23kav->Irchus
2018/01/2501:04:29Palider->theymos
2018/01/2423:19:38Kiritsugu->theymos
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It shows that everyone is preserved about giving merit points. And some of them getting good merit points as they probably making A++ posts.
But if you can give us the link of 50 merited posts as you have researched. It will be helpful for us, we will learn from that posts. Thus improving ourselves for the good posts. May be we will be listed in that 50 merited points next time.
But in a nutshell its a great research.
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Posts getting  more than 20 merit points from a single member need to be checked. This will involve a lot of work though. First we will have to consider that some of the threads might be exceptional and those merits points are justified for them. Secondly, very few members will be able to understand the content in local sections. Thus, members should observe such posts in their respective local board and report it in threads like : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0.
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Last edit: March 02, 2018, 01:28:12 AM by coinlocket$
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I was looking for this to check sMerit sellers/sent to alts, is easier to track now as you can see there is no reason at all why some posts are rewarded with 50 point.

This one is an example

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=166677

Received in the last 120 days

    January 25, 2018, 12:30:50 PM: 43 from thresher for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
    January 25, 2018, 12:25:58 PM: 41 from trollercoaster for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=221867

Sent in the last 120 days
    January 25, 2018, 02:15:51 PM: 50 to gruve_p for [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | Segwit activated | Adding Segwit to all our platforms
Received in the last 120 days
    January 25, 2018, 02:17:17 PM: 26 from gruve_p for Re: [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | Segwit activated | Adding Segwit to all our platforms

Well with this 3d, we can report a ton of this things.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=990983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=822485
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=511933

proabalbly alts

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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many. Merit so far is always the issue to the concern participants but not to those who aren't.

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Interesting, but please tell me how to get those raw data from the forum. Thank you.
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Interesting, but please tell me how to get those raw data from the forum. Thank you.

If you just read carefully you can find it on the OP, but since you ask for it rather than looking here you go.

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz
It will show only the last 120 days of data; someone else should archive the old ones if you want them.


Im pretty sure that a lot people have been downloading that file for the sole purpose of an in depth investigation. Goodluck to the ones investigating.



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March 02, 2018, 08:10:13 AM
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many.

That's the problem: it shouldn't be the case. If people find that suspicious, so why continue to allow it? Why not simply forbid giving more than X Merit at once (X being whatever value you want, but less than 40 or 30)?

In the other hand, people find this suspicious mainly because there are very few sMerit in circulation, so people are not supposed to give 50 Merit at once, since it is an incredibly high value for any member. In fact, the people that gived dozens of Merit like that are mainly high-ranked members that were given a lot of sMerit at the beginning ; they didn't know Merit would be so rare so they spent it like it should be: generously.
There is currently around 15000 sMerits given to the merit sources each month. Maybe giving 50 Merit to someone would be far less souspicious if the number of Merit given to the Merit sources (that give them to members other than legendaries, obviously) was 20 or 30 times bigger.
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March 02, 2018, 08:15:29 AM
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many. Merit so far is always the issue to the concern participants but not to those who aren't.

We have to consider a lot of aspects before punishing those members. First is the members who did it one or two days after the merit system might be testing this function. They might not have understood that merits are limited and thus one should not give more than 5 merits per post. Another thing to consider here is that some genuine posts might be deserving. For instance, the official thread regarding merit system received a lot of merits from different members. But it deserves those merits as all members are affected by that decision.
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March 02, 2018, 09:34:31 AM
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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many.
That's the problem: it shouldn't be the case. If people find that suspicious, so why continue to allow it? Why not simply forbid giving more than X Merit at once (X being whatever value you want, but less than 40 or 30)?

Following can be the reason behind this:

1) Admin wants all members to spend their default merit points before introducing further changes. He may be interested in finding some alt accounts through this merit system. Those members giving 50 merit points for a single post can be easily identified. The particular merit spending can then be analyzed and members involved with merit abuse can be punished.

2) Admin might not be expecting members to make such foolish mistakes. I really sometimes laugh at members doing this even after many such similar abuse cases had been recognized.
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March 02, 2018, 12:47:19 PM
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It shows that everyone is preserved about giving merit points. And some of them getting good merit points as they probably making A++ posts.
But if you can give us the link of 50 merited posts as you have researched. It will be helpful for us, we will learn from that posts. Thus improving ourselves for the good posts. May be we will be listed in that 50 merited points next time.
But in a nutshell its a great research.
I wanted to agree with you and to be optimistic about these transactions, but after checking some part of the 50 merited posts listed above, it seems to me that most of them are questionable ones, namely either of

1. would-be exchange between alt accounts
2. transaction at early stage of her/his sMerit history when s/he did not know how merits are rare / how many merits are reasonable to send for each good post
3. merit for very old posts e.g. by satoshi

As people get used to the system, I expect at least type 2 transaction should decrease.
 
To draw some lesson for good quality posts, it would be more helpful to look at posts received many merits but not too many, e.g. 20 or 25, which can be easily tractable from the data, as well as posts received small amount of merits from many users, which requires some work with the data to identify.
While they should still include the above three types, I presume their percentages are lower than those for 50 merited posts.
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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users.  
It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers.  
To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.
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1. would-be exchange between alt accounts
2. transaction at early stage of her/his sMerit history when s/he did not know how merits are rare / how many merits are reasonable to send for each good post
3. merit for very old posts e.g. by satoshi

1. That is about 70-80 % of these cases and should be strictly dealt with. I think those members have already spent their merit points (50 merit points are maximum I guess which one got by default).

2) There can be few of such cases but we need to carefully examine them as well. For instance, observing the login times of both accounts can give some idea whether it was intentional or just for testing the feature on a random account.

3) I do not think any one gave 50 merits points for his posts. If you are talking about those posts getting 50 points in total, that is allowed in my opinion.
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March 04, 2018, 11:07:12 AM
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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users.  
It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers.  
To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052556.msg31426338#msg31426338

I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot, but it is an obvious giveaway.

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This is good data to go for further step, creating standardized high posting. I need to explore further these data to classify standardized posting to sharpen a real high quality posting and the objectivity. If this standard available, at least below can be served :
1. Increasing the objectivity of merit sending
2. Build and increase the accountability and responsibility to send merit
3. Help newbie particularly and also some member to train good and high quality posting, so this is some kind of training and lesson for this forum.


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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users.  
It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers.  
To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052556.msg31426338#msg31426338

I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot, but it is an obvious giveaway.


That is the one important thing to start creating a standard for merit reward so every member will be responsible for their reward to other member. There is a thread for beginning to create a standard posting : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3010719.0

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That is the one important thing to start creating a standard for merit reward so every member will be responsible for their reward to other member. There is a thread for beginning to create a standard posting : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3010719.0

I think you failed your own criteria here. This is completely off-topic in this thread.

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In total 85524 sMerits have been sent.
This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month.
The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones.
This fact suggests that we need more merit sources and/or more sMerits per source.
Although I agree that we need more Merit sources, it can't necessarily be concluded from this. Many users* distributed Merits to their alt-accounts, and this should end when their initial free Merits dry up.

* From the Top-merited users, recent merit, many users have red trust for Merit trading (from the first 10: 452: pitipawn, 283: RichDaniel, 251: saulzaents and 151: niknik1966), and many are suspected to have traded Merit (such as Chachacoin17).

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052556.msg31426338#msg31426338
It's even more suspicious if they stop getting new Merit right after they've reached the rank requirement.

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