[ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading

[bebekbakar]

There are a number of similar companies that do the same thing, but this project separates itself
of packages in some key areas.

[dijida]

Question is it still possible to stake coins in the old wallet and swap them in a later stage into $pac ? ? ? ?

Course I read this from a Senior Member in the old dread of PAC:
------------------------------------------------------------
From Disaster Faster, Senior Member:

You have no idea how disappointed I am!

Let this be a warning to everyone.

I had been running the old PAC wallet for a very long time and it staked once per month and never failed once.

I was told to download the PAC redemption wallet and I did and that was a HUGE mistake!!!

The PAC redemption wallet refuses to stake and every single stake is rejected. This is costing me a huge amount of coins and is a scam in my opinion.

This new dev team you just lost every bit of my respect on this and brace yourself because I am going to dump billions of this coin now and I could care less how far I drive the price down.

I will also not be swapping to your new coin whatsoever because of what you have already done is not honorable IMHO.

Warning to all: if you are running the old PAC wallet KEEP RUNNING IT so you can stake coins. DO NOT switch to the redemption wallet or you will get burned and stake nothing.

Bill, is that you? You sly devil.

Issues with the old wallet are well, well documented (see the old pac github, the old pac BCT thread, or the reddit posts regarding rewind and transaction issues). Actually, the old pac is designed, per Bill Corless's own comments, to overwrite people's stakes -- that's how peercoin was designed. So both wallets can have stake overwritten. I mean, it's 100% validated by the creator of PAC and even in the Peercoin source code.

I know, facts are hard to accept, but it's all true. So, if you'd like to dispute, you know, facts, you're welcome to continue on. However, I do suggest you use the "FUD" tag...

best,
break.

Dear Break, I am not Bill so there are still technical problems with the old wallet and new wallet.............., so I am out.  Bye and enjoy the profit. 100$ in PAC bought in December is now +/- $ 10.000,= and most of you already sold at least 50% so a great begin for a community build on trust..... Fuck off in 2 months the Dev's are gone, so have fun with working hard........ And none of the Dev's or teammembers give there real name, which is enought

I have no beef with you my problem is with
Those who watched investors get screwed buying paccoin in btc .
I am 100% convinced some members of the pac team were involved
In insider trading , dumping their own stash for btc .
And now the poor investors get the blame .
May be it’s not a literal scam but it was fraudulent and the team
Needs to be held accountable .
At the moment me and a few other investors who lost money
Are in the process of looking for a law firm to represent us in a class action
Lawsuit against pac team .
I’m sure we will know who is responsible for this fiasco after the investigation is concluded .’

Thank y

how did investors get screwed by buying old Pac w BTC? Was there misleading information from the dev team or anyone holding someones keys to the keyboard pressing buttons forcing them to buy old Pac w BTC?

First of all, good effin luck filing lawsuits.
Secondly, you don't have any grounds. I even bought some old Pac w BTC when it was convenient, and I'm not crying about it. When Cryptopia closed their LTC and Doge markets, many, many, many, alt coins got paired into the default 1 sat level when paired w BTC. If anything, go knock on Cryptopia's door and ask them wtf? There was no coercion and misleading statements by anyone. "Investors" *air quotes for emphasis* including myself who bought old Pac w BTC did so voluntarity.

And guess what? The old Pac coin was/is screwed on so many levels. From the drama seeking telemundo-esque soap opera that is the old Pac coin founder, to broken wallets, broken code, lack of vision, lack of progress. The new $Pac imho solves so many of those. And if you don't agree, move on, learn from your TRADING mistakes, and learn, learn, learn. There is no one to blame for making bad trades than the person making bad trades. Or, you can take you new $Pac and see where it goes. Either way, it is voluntary. No one is forcing you to do diddly squat.

[breakcrypto]

Here's my problem with all the "scam" comments, beside simply being untrue, it makes no sense logically. I wasn't on the team at the time but a scam in crypto is when a team simply walks away; the entire $PAC team from before I joined and after, is still here. They're still active on git, discord, etc. No one has disappeared with whatever alleged gains everyone keeps accusing them of making. No coins are missing, nothing is gone, no one took money and did a runner.

Everyone in $PAC is still responding, still working long nights to keep $PAC as strong as it has been for months. I, personally, haven't taken a night off since joining the team. I talk to most of the team members on a daily basis and most of them are on even more than I am. These are people with families who have sacrificed their time to try and make $PAC everything it should be.

What good would hurting the price do for someone like me? Nothing. I understand people are frustrated at the price drop but claiming it's a scam and blaming the people working long, long, long hours to make $PAC succeed is doing nothing useful for anyone except: people trying to buy it cheaply from people buying the FUD, and stressing everyone out.

So, think before you speak harsh words. I'm here, I'm working hard to make $PAC a strong crypto contender, and if you believe otherwise, then please divest yourself and move on to another currency. You're welcome to ask anyone on Discord I've interacted with if they have faith in my efforts since joining the team. If you don't, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I've taken nothing from you and only tried to make something worthwhile for you by giving up my free time for you.

I've scammed no one and never would. I'm not aware of anyone who has scammed anyone on the $PAC team and if I was, I'd leave immediately. I joined the team because the community was, and still is amazing, the people who work so hard as volunteers (including myself) just because they see the potential. Even non-developers pitch in by helping others setup masternodes, etc. People even write songs just to keep spirits high.

I've only been on the team for a few weeks and it's wonderful. I've met so many amazing people and, I won't lie, it's tough to hear people call the hundreds of hours of time put in "a scam." Think before you speak, why would anything that anyone has claimed benefit the $PAC team? The only thing that benefits the $PAC team is the coin performing the way it deserves based on the community we have.

I feel for the people who bought at 1 sat; I do. But I had nothing to do with that. That 1 sat spike is what brought me to the team because I saw PAC was reborn. I wouldn't be here if it hadn't happened. But claiming $PAC is a scam will never get the price to 1000 sats. Hard work will get us there and that's exactly what the $PAC team is putting in. If you disagree, like I've said before, there are other currencies to move on to. I hope you believe in the team, but if you don't you're entitled to your opinions and I respect that.

I, personally, believe.

best,
break.

unfortunately, i am one of many investors who bought old pac 1 to 2 sats, i just wanted to stay quite but could not help myself when brad and other ppl calling us investors naive and idiots for overpaying. i only trade on cryptopia, binanace or coinbase, i remember when pac started trading on BTC market ppl were paying 2 sat for it, i waited upto 8 hours to get my pac at 1 sat, i thought it was the best deal for me.

I dont know, if you had noticed there was a huge sell wall on cryptopia @ 1 sat, but no one would notice that unless you refresh page few times, my question is who was playing that dirty game? I would like to know how much coins sal wold and brad had and where they sold them?

Why wallet went on maintenance forever? although brad claimed you guys have sent them codes to fix?

If atleast wallet was working fine, we could have staked our coins until may and increase number of coins to minimise our loss or alternatively sold them on lesser loss on other exchanges.

I guess sal wolf, bill and brad were the most benefited from cryptopia  btc market blunder, they sold their worthless old coins to us and have our Bitcoins. Bill is fuking gone forever he has not been online since 12 FEB, But sal and brad is still here maybe they should come forward and compensate everyone who bought @ 1 to 2 sat.................................

I can only tell you what I know but I talk to Brad daily and consider him a personal friend. He said this on the stream the other day, so I don't think mentioning it is a problem, but just like you he had his coins on Cryptopia and he bought during the boom, he didn't sell. He was hurt just like everyone else from the Cryptopia mess -- probably more since he gets the brunt of everyone's emotions. I can assure you, Cryptopia has done Brad no favors. He's a true believer in $PAC and, hands down, the hardest working member of the team that I've met -- and that's saying something. He's constantly out there working his tail off to make $PAC great and it really is a thankless job. Worse than thankless, I've seen some of the messages he gets and, frankly, they're just horrible. Things I wouldn't say to my worst enemies but everyone thinks Brad is some mastermind who took all the sats. He's a brilliant guy, but he's still here and he's still got his $PAC sitting on Cryptopia like everyone else on that exchange. Sadly.

As for the wallet, yes, Cryptopia was provided everything they asked for as soon as they asked. I've never talked to them directly but if something was needed whoever they needed from it got it to them immediately. You can check on the blockchain when they were sent the redemption amounts they requested and then the time it took them to release them to wallets -- that's all public. I have no information on their internal workings, why things broke, etc. but I have always suspected (as I mentioned on the live stream I did) that it dealt with transaction issues in the old chain. There was an update to the seed node -- the node that provides other nodes -- but Cryptopia kept the wallets locked long, long after. I still don't know why to be honest. I can tell you for sure they make their own decisions on everything that I've ever seen.

best,
break.

[shobhit.verma11@gmail]

They are just those butt-hurt FUD's who know nothing about blockchain and bought PAC's at 1-3 SAT 

These little guys make me so happy about myself, I am buying more $PAC's while its low, gonna be a masternode soon!

$PAC is a state of art coin, I have never seen transactions so fast and whitepaper that convincing!! Pactopia, Coinfly, you guys kidding me, this will be in top 10 coins soon!!

[breakcrypto]

Question is it still possible to stake coins in the old wallet and swap them in a later stage into $pac ? ? ? ?

Course I read this from a Senior Member in the old dread of PAC:
------------------------------------------------------------
From Disaster Faster, Senior Member:

You have no idea how disappointed I am!

Let this be a warning to everyone.

I had been running the old PAC wallet for a very long time and it staked once per month and never failed once.

I was told to download the PAC redemption wallet and I did and that was a HUGE mistake!!!

The PAC redemption wallet refuses to stake and every single stake is rejected. This is costing me a huge amount of coins and is a scam in my opinion.

This new dev team you just lost every bit of my respect on this and brace yourself because I am going to dump billions of this coin now and I could care less how far I drive the price down.

I will also not be swapping to your new coin whatsoever because of what you have already done is not honorable IMHO.

Warning to all: if you are running the old PAC wallet KEEP RUNNING IT so you can stake coins. DO NOT switch to the redemption wallet or you will get burned and stake nothing.

Bill, is that you? You sly devil.

Issues with the old wallet are well, well documented (see the old pac github, the old pac BCT thread, or the reddit posts regarding rewind and transaction issues). Actually, the old pac is designed, per Bill Corless's own comments, to overwrite people's stakes -- that's how peercoin was designed. So both wallets can have stake overwritten. I mean, it's 100% validated by the creator of PAC and even in the Peercoin source code.

I know, facts are hard to accept, but it's all true. So, if you'd like to dispute, you know, facts, you're welcome to continue on. However, I do suggest you use the "FUD" tag...

best,
break.

Dear Break, I am not Bill so there are still technical problems with the old wallet and new wallet.............., so I am out.  Bye and enjoy the profit. 100$ in PAC bought in December is now +/- $ 10.000,= and most of you already sold at least 50% so a great begin for a community build on trust..... Fuck off in 2 months the Dev's are gone, so have fun with working hard........ And none of the Dev's or teammembers give there real name, which is enought

I have no beef with you my problem is with
Those who watched investors get screwed buying paccoin in btc .
I am 100% convinced some members of the pac team were involved
In insider trading , dumping their own stash for btc .
And now the poor investors get the blame .
May be it’s not a literal scam but it was fraudulent and the team
Needs to be held accountable .
At the moment me and a few other investors who lost money
Are in the process of looking for a law firm to represent us in a class action
Lawsuit against pac team .
I’m sure we will know who is responsible for this fiasco after the investigation is concluded .’

Thank y

You say $PAC team, that's people like me, like the mods, like the other volunteers. You do realize most of them joined the team long after Cryptopia; I know I did. If you feel you need to sue someone, that's your right I assume in whatever country you're in, but I don't personally see how it will benefit you or anyone else. But, like I said, that's your right to proceed as you see fit. My take is, and always has been, everyone needs to be held responsible for their own actions -- that's how big boy and big girls act.

best,
break.

[tvtinh]

Is there any ways that we can mine with wallet for non-tech people?

[shobhit.verma11@gmail]

This coin is awesome, I believe in $PAC!

I just think that you guys should do something about Telegram group and add more members there, people give a lot of importance to telegram following before making an investment decision.

[dijida]

Is there any ways that we can mine with wallet for non-tech people?

Not with the wallet, but with a Master Node. If you get a chance, read the whitepaper, which is really pretty good and thorough.

[shobhit.verma11@gmail]

Hi Team, just wanted to check that why is the 'US Explorer' section of your website is still not updated and the circulation supply still shows 3 Trillion?

Can you please also share the physical address of your office location?

[breakcrypto]

Just want to say thanks for all your help on the initial Masternode setup break. Your intentions are for the future and the benefit of $PAC and it shows in the $PAC discord. $PAC is a great new coin with a very bright future, Smoker, Break, Ryan along with the other dev's help anytime they are asked. A very selfless job that is profoundly noticed and greatly appreciated. Thanks Guys! PAC to the moon!

Anytime Jason, 100% my pleasure. Thanks for all the help with the community and the $PAC hit song!

best,
break.

[PacSharedMasternodes.com]

Hi Team, just wanted to check that why is the 'US Explorer' section of your website is still not updated and the circulation supply still shows 3 Trillion?

Can you please also share the physical address of your office location?

This is the updated Block Explorer.

http://usa.pacblockexplorer.com:3002/

[kel-alt]

They are just those butt-hurt FUD's who know nothing about blockchain and bought PAC's at 1-3 SAT  

These little guys make me so happy about myself, I am buying more $PAC's while its low, gonna be a masternode soon!

$PAC is a state of art coin, I have never seen transactions so fast and whitepaper that convincing!! Pactopia, Coinfly, you guys kidding me, this will be in top 10 coins soon!!

kel-alt - I took .3 BTC profit from the PAC run-up and bought more $PAC.
Just wanted you to know there is someone else that agrees investor/traders
just have to live and learn. As someone else said, no one forced anyone to
not do any research and buy PAC for BTC. I heard someone else say FUD is
good, it means the coin is being noticed, and maybe scared competition is
posting. No investor wins every bet, so time will tell. I know they are busy with
the redemption, but I would like to see new posts on website in addition to
social media, it would help confidence. I just looked at MN VPS set-up instructions
and they looked too complicated! What is VPS? Do you know if this/are these legit? -
http://altcoin-guide.com/paccoin-vps-masternode-guide/
 Go $PAC!

[dijida]

They are just those butt-hurt FUD's who know nothing about blockchain and bought PAC's at 1-3 SAT  

These little guys make me so happy about myself, I am buying more $PAC's while its low, gonna be a masternode soon!

$PAC is a state of art coin, I have never seen transactions so fast and whitepaper that convincing!! Pactopia, Coinfly, you guys kidding me, this will be in top 10 coins soon!!

kel-alt - I took .3 BTC profit from the PAC run-up and bought more $PAC.
Just wanted you to know there is someone else that agrees investor/traders
just have to live and learn. As someone else said, no one forced anyone to
not do any research and buy PAC for BTC. I heard someone else say FUD is
good, it means the coin is being noticed, and maybe scared competition is
posting. No investor wins every bet, so time will tell. I know they are busy with
the redemption, but I would like to see new posts on website in addition to
social media, it would help confidence. I just looked at MN VPS set-up instructions
and they looked too complicated! What is VPS? Do you know if this/are these legit? -
http://altcoin-guide.com/paccoin-vps-masternode-guide/
 Go $PAC!

Yep, those are the instructions. I think there may be others as well. VPS is just a virtual private server to run your Master Node. There are almost 1600 Master Nodes currently on the network.

[breakcrypto]

They are just those butt-hurt FUD's who know nothing about blockchain and bought PAC's at 1-3 SAT  

These little guys make me so happy about myself, I am buying more $PAC's while its low, gonna be a masternode soon!

$PAC is a state of art coin, I have never seen transactions so fast and whitepaper that convincing!! Pactopia, Coinfly, you guys kidding me, this will be in top 10 coins soon!!

kel-alt - I took .3 BTC profit from the PAC run-up and bought more $PAC.
Just wanted you to know there is someone else that agrees investor/traders
just have to live and learn. As someone else said, no one forced anyone to
not do any research and buy PAC for BTC. I heard someone else say FUD is
good, it means the coin is being noticed, and maybe scared competition is
posting. No investor wins every bet, so time will tell. I know they are busy with
the redemption, but I would like to see new posts on website in addition to
social media, it would help confidence. I just looked at MN VPS set-up instructions
and they looked too complicated! What is VPS? Do you know if this/are these legit? -
http://altcoin-guide.com/paccoin-vps-masternode-guide/
 Go $PAC!

There are hosting sites too if you're not comfortable running one yourself:

Full Master Nodes
https://www.masternodes.work/ ....... BreakCrypto Developer (Part of the Paccoin Team)

Full and Shared Master Nodes
https://pacmasternode.com/ .......... BiztactixRyan Developer (Part of the Paccoin Team)

[SamaelDNM]

Reserved

[Kaskas]

They are just those butt-hurt FUD's who know nothing about blockchain and bought PAC's at 1-3 SAT  

These little guys make me so happy about myself, I am buying more $PAC's while its low, gonna be a masternode soon!

$PAC is a state of art coin, I have never seen transactions so fast and whitepaper that convincing!! Pactopia, Coinfly, you guys kidding me, this will be in top 10 coins soon!!

kel-alt - I took .3 BTC profit from the PAC run-up and bought more $PAC.
Just wanted you to know there is someone else that agrees investor/traders
just have to live and learn. As someone else said, no one forced anyone to
not do any research and buy PAC for BTC. I heard someone else say FUD is
good, it means the coin is being noticed, and maybe scared competition is
posting. No investor wins every bet, so time will tell. I know they are busy with
the redemption, but I would like to see new posts on website in addition to
social media, it would help confidence. I just looked at MN VPS set-up instructions
and they looked too complicated! What is VPS? Do you know if this/are these legit? -
http://altcoin-guide.com/paccoin-vps-masternode-guide/
 Go $PAC!

Good for you I hope it go’s down to almost
Nothing so you can buy more and more
But once it tanks and it will tank .
Remember the ( little guys !!!! )

[LunarSeventh]

You are asking me to read !!! 😆😆😆
Why don’t you read first ?
Understand what I’m talking about before you play smart ??
I never even mentioned redemption 😂

You guys are so stupid. You are creating these new accounts and trying FUD. If you do not anything about crypto you gusy need to leave and go somewhere else, where you can use your so called expertise. No buddy told you to buy without knowing. Kapish!!

The only one thats not up to par with his intelligence is you, you are unable to win an argument without cursing. Also "kapish" is not a word, its spelled "capisce". Maybe you need to start using a dicktionary before you start to use grown up words!

It's funny that you criticized him for his wording or spelling, but look at the wonderful typo you made while having this conversation with him. 

That was so on purpose man, are you that naive?

[helvild]

Where devs? Are you kidding me? The price fell 10 times! 1 btc became 0.1 btc. Are you fuc*ing kidding me???

[Digital Drug Lord]

Where devs? Are you kidding me? The price fell 10 times! 1 btc became 0.1 btc. Are you fuc*ing kidding me???

its called a scam, next time stay away

[Digital Drug Lord]

Question is it still possible to stake coins in the old wallet and swap them in a later stage into $pac ? ? ? ?

Course I read this from a Senior Member in the old dread of PAC:
------------------------------------------------------------
From Disaster Faster, Senior Member:

You have no idea how disappointed I am!

Let this be a warning to everyone.

I had been running the old PAC wallet for a very long time and it staked once per month and never failed once.

I was told to download the PAC redemption wallet and I did and that was a HUGE mistake!!!

The PAC redemption wallet refuses to stake and every single stake is rejected. This is costing me a huge amount of coins and is a scam in my opinion.

This new dev team you just lost every bit of my respect on this and brace yourself because I am going to dump billions of this coin now and I could care less how far I drive the price down.

I will also not be swapping to your new coin whatsoever because of what you have already done is not honorable IMHO.

Warning to all: if you are running the old PAC wallet KEEP RUNNING IT so you can stake coins. DO NOT switch to the redemption wallet or you will get burned and stake nothing.

Bill, is that you? You sly devil.

Issues with the old wallet are well, well documented (see the old pac github, the old pac BCT thread, or the reddit posts regarding rewind and transaction issues). Actually, the old pac is designed, per Bill Corless's own comments, to overwrite people's stakes -- that's how peercoin was designed. So both wallets can have stake overwritten. I mean, it's 100% validated by the creator of PAC and even in the Peercoin source code.

I know, facts are hard to accept, but it's all true. So, if you'd like to dispute, you know, facts, you're welcome to continue on. However, I do suggest you use the "FUD" tag...

best,
break.

Dear Break, I am not Bill so there are still technical problems with the old wallet and new wallet.............., so I am out.  Bye and enjoy the profit. 100$ in PAC bought in December is now +/- $ 10.000,= and most of you already sold at least 50% so a great begin for a community build on trust..... Fuck off in 2 months the Dev's are gone, so have fun with working hard........ And none of the Dev's or teammembers give there real name, which is enought

I have no beef with you my problem is with
Those who watched investors get screwed buying paccoin in btc .
I am 100% convinced some members of the pac team were involved
In insider trading , dumping their own stash for btc .
And now the poor investors get the blame .
May be it’s not a literal scam but it was fraudulent and the team
Needs to be held accountable .
At the moment me and a few other investors who lost money
Are in the process of looking for a law firm to represent us in a class action
Lawsuit against pac team .
I’m sure we will know who is responsible for this fiasco after the investigation is concluded .’

Thank y

cryptopia broke the doge and litecoin markets for this scam coin