Baikal Giant N - Cryptonight, Cryptonight-lite FPGA/ASIC miner

[wudafuxup]

Again you dont read properly, dont look at the hash rate look at the power consumption 18W for 21Mh is pretty awesome cant beat that with a GPU unless you have a free electricity somehow , also not all models 1060 6Gb can pull 22Mhs on 65W in my experience.

Anyway about Monero's devs, they are playing clever game and are successfully fooling most of the people with the recent algo change announcement if anyone read it carefully this stands out:

The modifications will be light, and should not change performance profiles much. The first change is now being tested, and will happen in the coming March fork

Thats not enough to stop ASICs manufacturers, the asics are already designed they just need to make small changes in the already existing design and spin off another batch and mine for months prior to publicly announced it....

 

Again you're not very bright. 21Mh/s @ 18W vs 22Mh/s @ 65W. 65W - 18W = 47W saved. 47W in a year is 40USD. That is garbage performance. Do a little math next time. You save 40 USD in electricity but pay 350USD for the board. It's garbage. Like I mentioned if the hashrate was double or half the price then it would make sense. As it stands it's not doing anything to GPUs.

Not to mentioned the GTX 10 series launched over 2 years ago. Once the GTX 20 series & Navi series launch will make that little board useless.

Don't get me wrong FPGAs can and probably will outdo GPUs at some point, but as it stands that particular board is most definitely not.

[whitefire990]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kawpMzQYYyNXxCYqWz7L5l--OoxvbG_a
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Hv6hN_3pEHcumMhva4WOPF2_D_ZxmNzM

I got my two Giant-N.  The chips are ASICs (see above photos).  They are in similar QFN packages as the X10 chips, and like the X10 there is no clock/crystal next to the chips so they have internal clock generators (unlike FPGA's which need external clocks).

[Spill]

Sso it is fair to assume Baikal has been hashing cryptonight since November.  Now what would YOU do if you were baikal, facing the hard fork?  We know the X10 is ASIC's, not FPGA's, we don't know about the Giant-N (yet; I might take it apart), but assuming the Giant-N is ASIC, then the obvious thing for Baikal to do would be to switch all their (hundreds) of Giant-N machines to Monero (off of all other cryptonight coins), and set up some master nodes and gain 51% of the network hash rate.  

The Baikal scumbags have been mining since September '17,  I think bitmain also hopped on in January '18.  If monero didn't announce the
Fork,  Im sure these 2 scumbags would still be quietly mining 75% of all the new monero blocks without saying a word.  You can figure this out easy because 75% of the monero blocks don't go to any known pools anymore.

[rdluffy]

Thank you all the buyers of this crap to help make market more centralized and Bitmain will domain everything

[whitefire990]

So on the Giant-N control panel, there are three hashing boards, and each has 32 ASIC's.  The clock speed of the chips defaults to 200MHz with no way to change the clock speed.

Each board hashes at 6700 H/s.  That is 209 H/s per ASIC.  Assuming 10 clock cycles per loop and 524288 loops in the cryptonight algorithm, it would be 38 H/s per ASIC at 200MHz, per instance of the algorithm.  This implies there are five to six instances of the algorithm running per ASIC, or 10-12MB of internal RAM in each chip, which is quite a lot.  

[oomurashin]

recived 4pics (1+3),thank you asicminermarket.com 
https://imgur.com/a/VNpkg

[stash2coin]

Again you're not very bright. 21Mh/s @ 18W vs 22Mh/s @ 65W. 65W - 18W = 47W saved. 47W in a year is 40USD. That is garbage performance. Do a little math next time. You save 40 USD in electricity but pay 350USD for the board. It's garbage. Like I mentioned if the hashrate was double or half the price then it would make sense. As it stands it's not doing anything to GPUs.

Not to mentioned the GTX 10 series launched over 2 years ago. Once the GTX 20 series & Navi series launch will make that little board useless.

Don't get me wrong FPGAs can and probably will outdo GPUs at some point, but as it stands that particular board is most definitely not.

I wouldnt call it garbage considering that the main purpose of this device  is not mining, also you save 40 dollars but calculate that for 100 or even 1000 devices is it irrelevant this savings when your a big player, you actually save a lot of money.
The problem is that no one so far want to release public bitstreams for FPGAs(yes people are mining on FPGAs for months now), greedy bastards , also very few people actually can do efficient VHDL or Verilog code for FPGAs but in future if the crypto market is not doomed this will change.

[Searing]

So those folk that have these arriving this week...will you have enough time to ROI before the various 'supposed' forks?

Being FPGA miners, will Baikal have enough tech cred...to make firmware updates for such forks to complicate the forking coin threat?

just watching from the sidelines...but curious

brad

[M5M400]

Sso it is fair to assume Baikal has been hashing cryptonight since November.  Now what would YOU do if you were baikal, facing the hard fork?  We know the X10 is ASIC's, not FPGA's, we don't know about the Giant-N (yet; I might take it apart), but assuming the Giant-N is ASIC, then the obvious thing for Baikal to do would be to switch all their (hundreds) of Giant-N machines to Monero (off of all other cryptonight coins), and set up some master nodes and gain 51% of the network hash rate.  

The Baikal scumbags have been mining since September '17,  I think bitmain also hopped on in January '18.  If monero didn't announce the
Fork,  Im sure these 2 scumbags would still be quietly mining 75% of all the new monero blocks without saying a word.  You can figure this out easy because 75% of the monero blocks don't go to any known pools anymore.

September? Source? Someone found the Baikal dev address in the miner firmware. They've registered that address on Dec. 10th on supportxmr.com, mined 3680 XMR so far and are still actively mining with up to 5MH

Seems they started shipping yesterday...

[elmond]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kawpMzQYYyNXxCYqWz7L5l--OoxvbG_a
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Hv6hN_3pEHcumMhva4WOPF2_D_ZxmNzM

I got my two Giant-N.  The chips are ASICs (see above photos).  They are in similar QFN packages as the X10 chips, and like the X10 there is no clock/crystal next to the chips so they have internal clock generators (unlike FPGA's which need external clocks).

wouldn't ASIC are under the heatsinkture?

[Mattthev]

I've got mine too, yep that's ASIC

[Abdurrahman Yalcin]

How ı can have giant N
İs it more profitable than giant B

[DigitalCruncher]

I wouldnt call it garbage considering that the main purpose of this device  is not mining, also you save 40 dollars but calculate that for 100 or even 1000 devices is it irrelevant this savings when your a big player, you actually save a lot of money.
The problem is that no one so far want to release public bitstreams for FPGAs(yes people are mining on FPGAs for months now), greedy bastards , also very few people actually can do efficient VHDL or Verilog code for FPGAs but in future if the crypto market is not doomed this will change.

For which cryptocurrency do you need a bitstream? And which FPGA you are considering?
What time of payback period do you expect?

Guys, Monero is not a Newton's binomial. You can write RTL for a couple of months by yourself.

[astraleureka]

wouldn't ASIC are under the heatsinkture?

I think you're forgetting the entire rig uses 60W. Less than a watt per chip, no need for any heatsinks.

@whitefire990 any chance you can get some more detailed photos of the hashboards?

[Mattthev]

wouldn't ASIC are under the heatsinkture?

I think you're forgetting the entire rig uses 60W. Less than a watt per chip, no need for any heatsinks.

@whitefire990 any chance you can get some more detailed photos of the hashboards?

There is one giant heatsink on each board. He took photo of the other side of board.

[cod3gen]

Here is some inside images of Baikal Giant N miner. ASIC Chip is BK1751. Voltage regulating is a little different on N with IC regulator instead of VRM as in X10.

Complete controllerboard:


Complete controllerboard 2:


Complete controllerboard backside:


Controllerboard "Motherboard" Front 1(Contains FW chip):


Controllerboard "Motherboard" Front 2(Contains FW chip):


Now to the good stuff;

Hashboard Backside w/o Heatsink:




Hashboard Frontside Overview:




Hashboard Details:






Orange Pi Zero:

[astraleureka]

Here is some inside images of Baikal Giant N miner. ASIC Chip is BK1751. Voltage regulating is a little different on N with IC regulator instead of VRM as in X10.

Thank you. It's interesting that the chips are completely different than whitefire's (https://astr.al/u/d84faf23_155x409.png)

[Mattthev]

Here is some inside images of Baikal Giant N miner. ASIC Chip is BK1751. Voltage regulating is a little different on N with IC regulator instead of VRM as in X10.

Thank you. It's interesting that the chips are completely different than whitefire's (https://astr.al/u/d84faf23_155x409.png)

I have the same BS51 chips like whitefire990

[Mattthev]

Anybody found way to use SGminer options to OC this little bastard? Or some other tweaking?
https://github.com/genesismining/sgminer-gm/blob/master/doc/configuration.md

[astraleureka]

I'm still working on disassembling their updated sgminer, but if I come across anything useful I'll be putting a post about it up.